u/Nielsfxsb

Trying not to sound like calimero here, so please bear with me. Also, please see my MS Paint drawing as a tongue-in-cheek overgeneralisation. Some background: I'm a senior director in the not-for-profit sector, or social enterprises as they say in the UK: social wellfare/healthcare to be exact. I hold two masters degrees from worldwide top 10 and top 25 raking universities in my field, bat a mediocre bachelors (I come from a working class background, took out a personal loan for it). I wanted to solve an issue I came across in my field and figured to do so via a doctorate. This was an issue recognised by fellow directors and board members and also that there was no research or book available that addressed this issue. Soon I was in a business PhD for two years to work on solving the gap, but found it was to much focused on publishing in journals that lead to more citations, rather than solving/fixing my real life issue. Discussing this with my advisor, I was eligible to switch to a professional doctorate holding a masters. In the UK you can get into a PhD after your bachelors, but you need a field related masters to get into a professional doctorate. This seemed like a smart move. This is all at a good research university holding prestigious accreditations from academic and professional bodies.

I then switched to a DBA. For me that was a good fit, as it would allow me to continue writing my thesis, contributing to theory in a novel way, but allowing me to write my final chapter on how this should fix the issue in practice as well. Soon I noticed people around me were shocked I traded my PhD track in for a DBA and now I also read a lot of PhDs being snobby about professional doctorates, also in the PhD subreddit here. Never noticed this before. As the r/DrBA and r/NotaPhD subreddits for professional doctorates are dead, and there is no EdD subreddit, I turn to you as the PsyD is a very well know and (as far as I know) highly respected professional doctorate: do you PsyDs also notice this towards you from PhDs? As you both can attend to the same patients, working environment or teach.

I feel a bit disappointed by it, as in this day and age where we have people not taking academics seriously anymore and "do their own research" on Facebook, it seems like a loss that doctors amongst each other fight over who is a "real doctor" and who is not. I noticed during my PhD period that STEM looked down upon economists, who looked down on business, who looked down upon law, who looked down on communication, who looked down upon arts, etc. It all seems so silly to me. But if this is a fact, broader than my social environment, it might limit teaching chances or switching to academia for those doing a professional doctorate that like to be a (guest) lecturer or postdoc.

Sorry if this comes across as a rant, it is not meant as such. Hope you enjoy my MS Paint skills.

Trying not to sound like calimero here, so please bear with me. Some background: I'm a senior director in the not-for-profit sector, or social enterprises as they say in the UK: social wellfare/healthcare to be exact. I hold two masters degrees from worldwide top 10 and top 25 raking universities in my field, bat a mediocre bachelors (I come from a working class background, took out a personal loan for it). I wanted to solve an issue I came across in my field and figured to do so via a doctorate. This was an issue recognised by fellow directors and board members and also that there was no research or book available that addressed this issue. Soon I was in a business PhD for two years to work on solving the gap, but found it was to much focused on publishing in journals that lead to more citations, rather than solving/fixing my real life issue. Discussing this with my advisor, I was eligible to switch to a professional doctorate holding a masters. In the UK you can get into a PhD after your bachelors, but you need a field related masters to get into a professional doctorate. This seemed like a smart move. This is all at a good research university holding prestigious accreditations from academic and professional bodies.

I then switched to a DBA. For me that was a good fit, as it would allow me to continue writing my thesis, contributing to theory in a novel way, but allowing me to write my final chapter on how this should fix the issue in practice as well. Soon I noticed people around me were shocked I traded my PhD track in for a DBA and now I also read a lot of PhDs being snobby about professional doctorates, also in the PhD subreddit here. Never noticed this before. As the r/DrBA and r/NotaPhD subreddits for professional doctorates are dead, and there is no EdD subreddit, I turn to you as the PsyD is a very well know and (as far as I know) highly respected professional doctorate: do you PsyDs also notice this towards you from PhDs? As you both can attend to the same patients, working environment or teach.

I feel a bit disappointed by it, as in this day and age where we have people not taking academics seriously anymore and "do their own research" on Facebook, it seems like a loss that doctors amongst each other fight over who is a "real doctor" and who is not. I noticed during my PhD period that STEM looked down upon economists, who looked down on business, who looked down upon law, who looked down on communication, who looked down upon arts, etc. It all seems so silly to me. But if this is a fact, broader than my social environment, it might limit teaching chances or switching to academia for those doing a professional doctorate that like to be a (guest) lecturer or postdoc.

Sorry if this comes across as a rant, it is not meant as such. Also sorry for the AI slob image for attention.