u/Objective-Context726

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What's killing the Marathon/Festival experience

You walk into the room, and out of the couple hundred people, you probably know 10-20. Sampling the dancing, so you can cabeceo selectively, would take ages. That's not what you came for. From shoes, fancy tango clothes, toned body, to posture when sitting or standing, they got all the trix down. So, you just dance.

And end up with 10% outstanding tandas, 30% OKish tandas, 30% meh tandas, and 30% really bad tandas. It feels like any ordinary Milonga anywhere in the world. Which makes you question why you travelled and paid hundreds of bucks for attendance.

What’s your strategy to make this a better experience?

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u/Objective-Context726 — 5 days ago
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Is Tango Fundamentally Anti-Social?

There is a saying in Tango that it takes three good tandas to make up for a bad one.

A bad tanda does more than dampen your mood. It can erode confidence, disrupt musicality, and, in extreme cases, even alter one's physical expression. I've noticed this particularly among followers, whose posture, embrace, and overall movement quality can visibly deteriorate after dancing with inexperienced or poorly matched partners. It can take several subsequent dances with skilled partners to restore what was lost in a single tanda.

This creates a curious incentive structure. If your goal is improvement, there is little incentive to dance "down." Progress is most often accelerated by dancing with people at least as skilled as yourself, while the greatest rewards tend to come from dancing "up."

Which raises a broader question about Tango as a social dance. Most social activities rely on experienced participants engaging with newcomers. Tango's learning curve appears to reward the opposite: the better you become, the more selective you are encouraged to be.

If inclusion and improvement increasingly pull in opposite directions, can Tango truly be considered a social dance? Or does it contain an inherently anti-social dynamic at its core?

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u/Objective-Context726 — 2 months ago
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Shape and Rhythm of Molinete Steps in Close Embrace

In my experience, there are (at least) two different shapes and rhythmic patterns to the follower’s steps for a Giro in close embrace. Let me explain for a Giro to the right starting from the follower’s side step:

1a) a long sweeping back ocho that covers the majority of the turning angle of the whole Giro
1b) a very small side step, sometimes almost nonexistent except for the weight change
1c) a small cross forward
1d) opening to the side

2a) a sharp back cross
2b) a very small side step, sometimes almost nonexistent except for the weight change
2c) a long reaching forward step that curves around the leader and covers the majority of the turning angle of the whole Giro
2d) opening to the side

Obviously 1a) takes a long time, whereas 1b) is very quick. I think teachers still refer to both patterns 1a-c) and 2a-c) as Quick Qick Slow, because what matters for the rhythmic pattern is the duration of the weight change, which is Quick Quick Slow in both cases. Correct me if I’m wrong …

My question is: Is there a different lead for 1) and 2), or is it really a choice of the follower? Because with the way I‘m leading it, I‘m getting both versions from different followers.

I strongly prefer 2) because it has a much more rhythmic „Milonguero“ feel to it when dancing in close embrace.

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u/Objective-Context726 — 2 months ago

I am suffering from Mortons Neuroma and for three years I have been trying to keep it under control with a combination of
- wide toebox shoes,
- metatarsal pads,
- toe spacers, and
- stretching.
This winter I discovered Ugg boots for me, that really worked wonders with their soft and plushy insoles.

Lately, I thought my condition had worsened, feeling like there’s some kind of bulge under my feet, when I discovered that the soft and plushy insoles indeed HAVE formed a pretty big bulge. It’s EXACTLY at the spot where it would trigger the neuroma …

I found this to be quite staggering, the bulge forming exactly where it would hurt me the most. I mean, when my feet can crush an insole, they sure can crush a nerve as well? Makes me wonder about the underlying cause of MN in the first place. Is it some kind of nonfunctional movement pattern or wrong pressure distribution in the feet? And can feet be retrained to avoid this pattern?

I would be interested to hear your thoughts.

Thanks

u/Objective-Context726 — 4 months ago