u/Ok_Bad_9488

Help!

I’m stuck on interpreting a NetNTLMv2 result.

Context:

- Target is a Windows Server domain controller

- SMB signing is required on the DC.

- Anonymous SMB and guest access fail.

- Responder captures repeated LLMNR/NBT-NS/mDNS requests for FileServer/FileServer.local.

- I captured a NetNTLMv2 response for a domain user.

- John cracks the NetNTLMv2 response to a plaintext candidate.

- However, the plaintext fails normal authentication:

- SMB: STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE

- LDAP simple bind: error 49 / data 52e

- WinRM: login failure

- Kerbrute confirms the username exists.

- I also tested LDAP relay with ntlmrelayx, but I’m still checking whether LDAP signing/channel binding or the authentication type blocks it.

Question:

Does a cracked NetNTLMv2 response that fails SMB/LDAP/WinRM usually indicate a stale/cached NTLM response, password change, old-password NTLM behaviour, wrong domain/format issue, or something else? What would be the correct methodology to prove which case it is, without just brute forcing?

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u/Ok_Bad_9488 — 12 days ago

Help!

I’m stuck on interpreting a NetNTLMv2 result.

Context:

- Target is a Windows Server domain controller

- SMB signing is required on the DC.

- Anonymous SMB and guest access fail.

- Responder captures repeated LLMNR/NBT-NS/mDNS requests for FileServer/FileServer.local.

- I captured a NetNTLMv2 response for a domain user.

- John cracks the NetNTLMv2 response to a plaintext candidate.

- However, the plaintext fails normal authentication:

- SMB: STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE

- LDAP simple bind: error 49 / data 52e

- WinRM: login failure

- Kerbrute confirms the username exists.

- I also tested LDAP relay with ntlmrelayx, but I’m still checking whether LDAP signing/channel binding or the authentication type blocks it.

Question:

Does a cracked NetNTLMv2 response that fails SMB/LDAP/WinRM usually indicate a stale/cached NTLM response, password change, old-password NTLM behaviour, wrong domain/format issue, or something else? What would be the correct methodology to prove which case it is, without just brute forcing?

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u/Ok_Bad_9488 — 12 days ago