u/Onimech

How are my joppy mains doing ?

Just want to see what you guys build / how you're feeling after the recent nerf

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u/Onimech — 13 days ago

Is Iceborn Gauntlet becoming Poppy Jungle's best first item in 26.16?

Sorry in advance for the long post. ;)

Hey fellow Poppy jungle players,

You've probably all seen the upcoming bruiser the Poppy nerfs, and the Sundered Sky nerf.

I've been building Trinity Force a lot lately because of its amazing clear speed and burst damage, and it helped me climb to Master yesterday. ;)

But after looking at the 26.16 changes, I think Iceborn Gauntlet + Dead Man's Plate might actually become Poppy's strongest core.

Here's my reasoning:

  • Q's bonus AD ratio is being reduced, making AD less valuable.
  • Sundered Sky is getting nerfed.
  • Trinity Force also loses some value.
  • The jungle pet now scales better with bonus HP and Armor/MR.
  • Poppy's W now grants 16–32% bonus resistances, which also increases the pet's damage. Combined with the pet changes, it feels like tank items now have much better synergy than bruiser builds.

I also looked at Sunfire, since it's getting buffed. It should definitely be viable, especially for AoE clear, but compared to Iceborn you give up the Spellblade proc and the permanent slow while only gaining a small amount of clear speed.

Another thing I've been thinking about is the rune shards.

Since the Q bonus AD ratio is lower, could the Ability Haste shard now be better than Adaptive Force? My thought is that casting more Qs might now be stronger than making each Q hit slightly harder.

With Iceborn (15 AH) + Transcendence (+10 AH) + the AH shard (+8 AH), you're already sitting at 33 Ability Haste very early.

I'm definitely going to test Adaptive vs Ability Haste on the first clear, since I think that's where the biggest difference will show.

What do you guys think?

  • Iceborn + Dead Man's Plate as the new core?
  • Ability Haste or Adaptive Force shard after the patch?
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u/Onimech — 2 months ago