u/Patient_Implement897

When the bots' training material is wrong ...

When the bots' training material is wrong ...

Can someone explain to me how the creators of all the chatBots have concluded that the training material they CHOSE to use ... is factually correct ... so completely error-free that they do not need to have any system for correcting the 'truths' that they have taught the bots.

I am not interested in personally receiving the particular correct facts ... I already know them. I am interested in Jo Public receiving the true facts when he asks the bots. The powers-that-be must be loving this protection from criticism, from looking foolish (and immoral), from facing legal liability for teaching/testing/accrediting new members of their profession.

All the chatBots give wrong facts even though the provably correct information has been public for more than a decade. Leaving a comment behind a 'thumbs down' icon does nothing.

Are there other issues you know about where the training materials used were wrong?

AFTER THE 11 COMMENTS..... so we all agree that the bots are full of hot-air on many issues ... but if WE know it, their creators should know it ... and surely, SURELY. they would have created mechanisms to correct the errors. How hard would that be? Don't they realize that they are freezing wrong info for all posterity? Has nobody created a website for us to document their error?

Webpages like https://happysupport.ai/blog/why-ai-chatbots-give-wrong-answers pretend that the errors are because data becomes 'out of date'. But the issue I know was proven 15 years ago. One bot explicitly said the correct source was NOT used in training ... and presumably will not in the future.

u/Patient_Implement897 — 3 days ago

Recommend: AI+China discussion with Kyle Chan

"China's Not the Problem - We Are"
https://www.nytimes.com/by/ross-douthat

I really recommend watching/listening to this interview by Ross Douthat with Kyle Chan of the Brookings Institute. It's a hour long, but you won't get bored.

This guy really impressed me. The moderator's questions were insightful and seemed to give the guest opportunity to apply what he knows to give one-off answers ... that were anything BUT 'off the cuff' or 'canned'.

u/Patient_Implement897 — 7 days ago

Does anyone else have questions they use to test the bots, showing how many/most will give a factually wrong answer? Has anyone ever experienced a bot answering with (eg) 'some people say xyz and others say abc'?

An issue I care about causes ALL bots I have tried, to repeat the common claims in the published media (paper, magazines, big websites) and taught/tested by professional bodies. Unfortunately, the received wisdom was invented about the product before competing products were invented ... So the uniform-but-wrong answer was 'acceptably correct'. Now there is competition, but nobody quoted in the media wants to say "Oops, I was wrong for 20 years, and really .....". So the bots don't update themselves.

None of my 'thumbs down' campaigns have resulted in a response. Ideas about how to correct them?

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u/Patient_Implement897 — 19 days ago