Are these by made by Goebels or Fakes?

I purchased small collection of figurines awhile back, most of them I think are by Goebel, but I cant find any information on them.

The pair in my photos have odd backstamps so not sure if they've made by Goebel. The impressed mark on the white one, the 'W' doesn’t seem wide enough to match the 1935-1949 one and the G sits lower. No idea what the stamp on the glazed one is.

Would really appreciate any opinions or information on them

u/Pristine_Recipe_2441 — 1 month ago