Like I am making a list for a little project of mine. But i don't know what grade of a servant Hōzōin Inshun is.

For example is he E rank? D rank? C rank? B rank? A rank? Top servant?

Like EMIYA Alter is B rank servant according to BB, so tell me your thoughts please on Hōzōin Inshun and where you would place him.

Just as the title says, who wins? Gods aren't allowed to participate. I think we cook them hard.

I like how fate is consistant with it's powerscaling, but i am just confused on one part. For example Karna is stated to have power equal to nuclear missles, but which one? Because you have nuclear bombs that can destroy a city, a mountian to even a whole large island per say.

Like at least in FSF you have statements where Gil can easily wipe out snowfield or Gugalanga had a power of a hundered magnitude 9 earthquakes.

So i am just curious, when it says servants have power of nuclear weapons, which nuke? Tsar Bomb? Ivy Mike? Little Boy?

Like we saw with Freya in episode Freya that once a god learns about something they have never seen before, they know everything about that thing. So if Freya, upon seeing the game she has never seen before, becoming a master at a new game.

What do you think would happen if an isekaid personed told them about games such as Kingdom Hearts or movies like Star wars?

Wouldn't there delayed omnisience fill in the moment they learn that thin exists? Like let's say you talk about 1st movie of star wars, gods should know every movie going fowards upon learning of it existance. Or if they knew only KH1, they should know all the side games and games to come upon learning of its existance.

Let's talk about it for a bit.

Do we think that all beastification are equal and how much of a boost you think they give? Who do you think has beastification but wasn't shown to use?

If Bete beastification is +1000 to everything, do you think Ottar's is the same or above due to Stortus Ottar?

I haven't read last 7 chapters and ALL THIS HAPPENED, WHAT?! My poor boy! What are they going to do to him?!

Scenario is that you are a god of a familia, you have been transported into the danmachi world, but you can't take meta units like the ones that are known in the anime. So let's say you get 5 tries, let see if you get something good.

If you rolled:

1. If you rolled 1-65, you got yourself a R ranked character.

2. If you rolled a 66-89 you got yourself an SR ranked character.

3. If you rolled a 90-99 you got yourself an SSR ranked character.

4. If you roleld a 100 you got yourself an UR ranked character.

R ranked character is somebody like Lili or Mord

SR ranked character is somebody like some none impressive first class adventurers.

SSR ranked character is somebody like Ais/Ryuu or broken characters with busted abilities like Allen or strong characters like Ottar.

UR ranked character are cheats like Alfia, Zard or Bell that have something that breaks the balance completely.

So roll on internet 5 times and tell me your results and let see if you get something good for your familia.

Like for example how much of a boost is reinforcement for example? Like is x2 or x3? Or is it a whole rank up? I am more curious how much of a phyisical boost does EMIYA get, but if you know how much of a boost normal mages get, that's good too.

What do you do when you compain about a moderator and you accudently send the message in different sub and get muted to talk to moderators... LOL

I posted results like everybody else of the fate chart test and mine gor removed. Nice.

You summon these 7 servants, how do you think they would act with each other and with there master(let's say you)?

EMIYA

Richard I

Gareth

Mandaricardo

Medea(lily or adult, your choice)

Mori Nagayoshi

Hassan of Hundred faces.

So you think they would be chill with you? Kill you? Disapprove of you?

Do you think this and that servants would be pals or would they hate each other? Those type of scenarios. Would love to hear your guys opinions.

So i want to rank these servants from weakests to strongest and i wanted to hear thoughts.

Richard I(Saber)

EMIYA(Archer)

Gareth(Lancer)

Mandricardo(Rider)

Medea Lily/Medea(Caster)

Hassan of Hundred Faces(Assassin)

Mori Nagayoshi(Berserker)

What do we know of the justice system in danmachi?

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Do they execute criminals or just put them in jail? Gods and mortals alike.

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What crimes did Evilus commit for example?

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I know there is a novel, but i never read it. I did play memoria freese back in the day when the story talked about ancient heroes. And i clearly remember Dim being like level 6 in terms of power or something like that, has anything changed?

Ig my question at the end of the day is how powerful were ancient heroes compared to adventurers today.

I am working on something and all KOTR are first-class servants, right?

So tell me how well she would do against people like Cu, Diarmud, Richard, Hyppolita, Roland and other servants like those. Like what are her strong points, bc wiki is fking useless.

Strongest as in, at what level of power that attack is.

For example you all say that Zard a level 7 with his attacks strikes like a level 9, some even say high level 9.

So i became curious and tell me how hard these listed characters hit.

Zard(again)

Alfia

Bell lvl 5

Ais

Bete

Finn

Riveria

Ottar

Allen

Hedin

Recently i was preparing on making myself a crossover fanfic, nothing much. Than i found something interesting i can't believe I missed. Leviathan's scale, at least for the school district is 700 meters in diamater roughtly. That means we can roughly get his size from this.

Now, obviously, we can’t get an exact measurement because monsters don’t follow real biology perfectly, but we can estimate it by comparing the scale-to-body proportions of large reptiles and fish. On real animals, a single large scale is usually only a fraction of the total body length — somewhere around 1/20 to 1/50 depending on the species and where the scale is located.

So if we follow IRL standarads. You can get it's size to be:

700x20= 14km
700x30= 21km
700x50= 35km

But this is not real life, but fantasy. Usually scales are smaller than compared to whole body and can wary in size. So boosting these number by 2 times or 2.5 or 3, should be acceptable.

So Leviatahn could be scaled between 15km and 100km. Depends on what you think. There is also statement that its scales supported thousand of kingdoms, but sadly we have no numbers for them, while for shool district we have.

But considering that statement as well, plus it being a fantasy world. I place him between:

28km~70km. Until we know more about Asfi's kingdom and other kingdoms, this is what we have, anything else would not be fair since we have no info.

Now considering that Leviathan is an Ocean creature, his weight and size can be easily supported in this enviroment. So I think Leviathan, potentially, is the largest in size out of the 3. Doesn't mean it is, we don't know how big One Eyed Black Dragon is, but following our IRL logic, it should be the largest.

Based on that, i think that Leviathan should be 3 times bigger than Behemoth.

On Earth mountians range from 300m to 8 000m. Godzilla for example is 300m. Still I think Behemoth should dwarf medium to large mountians. So placing him at 4km at bare minimum is acceptable. But with my statement above, for it being 3 times smaller than Leviathan. It would place it between 9km~24km in size.

Now Black Dragon... Personally i have no idea how to scale it LOL. The only thing we are shown about it is in season 2 where Hermes talks to Bell about it. Where he is standing on two legs and his head is in the clouds. If this is the case, how high are the clouds?

Because some clouds could be 1km away, some are 3km and some are up to 12km away. So I will place it between 8km~20km, until proved wrong, since it's a final boss.

Note: This is not me saying "Oh this is 100% truth", this is speculation based on School District that we know rough size off. Until we know more, i think these numbers are fair. But tell me your thoughts. I am sure some of you will disagree, maybe some will agree, who knows.

Who wins?

If you are on of the fate fans that thing servants are multiversal, get out, you are wrong. If you need feats for mordred.

She can blow up a mountian with her NP as a low ball, as a high ball her NP did rival Sieg's in apocrypha and Siegfried in Orleans scales to Fafnir who can destroy France with a single breath attack.

AP: Low ball, mountian level. High Ball, country level.

Speed. Well all high ranking servants fall into Supersonic+ or Hypersonic+. But considering she fought Karna who is Massievly Hypersonic in apocrypha to Relativistic. I think it's fair to say she is at least Hypersonic+. Her highest high ball would be Massievly Hypersonic+, but i think that's too far for her.

Durability wise. She tanked Frankesteins NP that was the size of a mountian, so at least mountian level durability as a low ball. Some guys calculated that NP to be as strong as island level attack.

Stamina: Superhuman. Can fight as long as she has magical energy to sustain her. For this case let's say she is summoned by the world, so running out of stamina isn't big deal. Or use a first-rate master like in apocrypha and she can fight a day without feeling tired.

Skill wise: She isn't as impressive as the rest of the round table knights. Noneless she is still a master swordswoman, but thanks to her skills and wild fighting style she is highly unbredictable and more skilled opponents than her would be surprised and have difficulty defending against her.

Class Skills

Magic Resistance: An innate ability that grants protection against magical effects. Unlike the Resistance effect that merely rejects Magical Energy, this ability cancels the spells altogether. Bearing the blood of dragons, just as King Arthur does, Mordred has B-rank Magic Resistance, negating spells with a chant below three verses, and making it difficult for even High-Thaumaturgy and Greater Rituals to affect her.

Riding: The ability to ride mounts. As a Knight of the Round Table, Mordred has experience in riding, reflected by her B-rank skill, which allows her to handle vehicles and animals with above average skill, even those that did not exist in her time. However, she cannot ride members of the Phantasmal Species.

Personal Skills

Battle Continuation: A skill that reflects one's exceptional vitality and endurance, allowing the user to fight on despite grievous wounds and escape safely even when defeated. Even after being pierced by the holy spear Rhongomyniad, Mordred did not give up, her sheer hatred and the curse it carries allowing her to deliver a lethal wound to her father with her final breath, resulting in a B rank in this skill.

Charisma: The natural talent to command an army, which increases the ability of allies during group battles. Like her father, Mordred also possesses this skill. However, due to her actions during life, it is limited in scope, and thus she is only able to easily persuade small groups of normal individuals, but it is nowhere near enough to lead a country. This is further complicated by her abrasive personality and vulgar vernacular, but it shows its true worth during a rebellion as was the case that lead to the battle of Camlann, giving her a rank of C- in this skill.

Instinct: The power to "feel" the most favorable developments for oneself during battle. Mordred has inherited this ability from Arturia, though her intuition is not as potent as hers due to its B rank. Nonetheless, it still allows her to halve the penalties caused by visual obstructions and auditory hallucinations, being as she was able to dodge Chiron's arrows while fighting with Jack the Ripper.

Mana Burst: A skill that allows for an increase in performance by infusing one's weapons and body with magical energy, for both defensive and offensive purposes, effectively recreating the effects of a jet burst. Another ability inherited from her father, which allows Mordred to keep up with even her, as well as the fastest Servants, using it to propel herself across the battlefield and to reinforce her strength as reflected by her A rank in this skill. It allows for the use of Clarent Blood Arthur, which Mordred accomplishes by flooding her blade with her hate, and Mordred can release it on a smaller scale to cause bursts of crackling red electricity to knock away opponents and to extend the range and power of her attacks.

And finally her trump cards are:

Secret of Pedigree: Helm of Hidden Infidelity: Mordred's helmet, given to her by Morgan le Fay with the instructions to never remove it when anyone can see, as it disguises her identity and lineage. When in use, it hides any details on her identity, her personal skills, and her Noble Phantasms. It is even capable of nullifying the True Name Discernment of the Ruler class, and prevents most of those who could otherwise discern her identity from fully recollecting vital information, only vaguely feeling like they recognize her. Her statistics and details on her abilities only become visible when she deactivates her helmet, but she can maintain its effects even when unarmored until she takes off the helmet while wearing her armor or draws her sword.

Clarent: Radiant and Brilliant Royal Sword: Mordred's famous sword, which she stole from King Arthur's armory in Camelot. It originally was a treasured B-rank sword comparable to Excalibur that denoted the right to succeed the throne, but it has been lowered in rank, as she was never acknowledged as the successor to the throne. It thus gives none of the bonuses it would normally confer to her parameters and Charisma, instead acting simply as a high-quality sword. Mordred channels her magical energy through it to make use of Mana Burst, and by channeling her extreme hatred into the blade, she can make use of her ultimate attack, Clarent Blood Arthur.

EDIT! I FORGOT HER STATS, MY BAD

Strength: B+(+ is x2 just so you know)
Endurance: A
Agility: B
Mana: B
Luck: D
NP: A

Ok, first things first. This is not about fate servants like CCC Gilgamesh that is multiversal or shit like that.

This about if adventurers got buffed in last few volumes compared to REGULAR SERVANTS and not some mooncell bs, ok?

So help me figure out how strong adventurers are to servants.

So as benchmark i will use Siegfried who is steonger than Fafnir who's breath attack was able to destroy the whole Orleans singularity, so entire country of France. Siegfried is stated to be stronger and has more AP than fafnir and can tank those attacks on regular bases.

Edit: Dragons in fate are said to lay waste to countries with there breath attacks alone, so take that as you will.

Based on latest findings, i found out that Orario is about 50 to 80km in diameter, hlmy friend did some calcs and said it was at 82km actually, which shocked me fr.(source from SO pages)

So max level 6 Ottar(with all his abilities activated) is able to shake the whole city.

This would also upscale other first class adventurers who survived demi-spirit on the 59 floor and if my calc are correct would be around 250km.

Speed wise, are they still faster than speed of sound since allen was stated to be supersonic with sub-relarivistic reaction speed.

So my thoguths are that level 5-6 are like EMIYA tier in terms of physical stats. While the likes of Leon and Ottar could fight mid to high tier servants like Diarmuid, Gareth, Medusa and more and have a chance to win. Meanwhile healthy Zald and Alfia(there captains as well) could fight the likes of Cu, Medea, Percival, Siegfried and more.(P.S. this doesnt inlucde NP's, just pure physical stats. Also for you who say EMIYA is mountain level due to fighting Herc who can destroy a mountain with a swing of his sword, its the same situation where EMIYA kept up with Cu in speed until he was allowed to fught at full power, so wothout some NP that boosts his strenght he cant match Herc. EMIYA can bliw up a mountian with his NP's tho.)

While the likes of Artoria, Heracles, Karna, Arjuna and others like that are simply way beyond them.

But again I AM NOT a danmachi expert, so if you have any info, please share them so i can know how powerful adventurers are.