u/Russcombs15

2nd Mate- Day vs. Watch pay

Just got an offer for a 2nd Mate mixed work schedule. I come from a CONMAR background, working on MSC ships managed by Crowley.

I’m looking at the MWS because I’d like to do one 4 month hitch a year and spend more time at home.

Coming from union work, I don’t really understand the Day vs Watch pay difference. I looked up the pay rates and it’s a massive difference. In some cases like 30k and much higher OT rate. I also saw something called “NWA/LV Supp”. Is this some sort of extra paid to watch standers?

Questions:

How does the pay work, and is it that big of a difference between day and watch?

As a MWS 2nd Mate do I have any say in what vessel and what position I’m taking?

And lastly, I’ve got mixed answers about this but: after my first 4 month hitch is it possible to take 2 month relief jobs? Or is every time I sail going to be 4 months?

Thanks for the help, I’m trying to decide if this is a good fit for me. If I’m only going to be sailing 4 months a year I want to make sure I’m making the most I can during those 4 months.

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u/Russcombs15 — 8 days ago

Fairwater ATB info

Got a potential job offer Fairwater on the ATB RELIANCE for a 3rd Mate position.

I’ve sailed on ATBs before and I have my tankerman. However the ATB I was on only had 2 mates and a captain. 6/6 watches at times. No cook and run was in gulf. Wasn’t great, but I was home every 3 weeks.

Any info on Fairwater ATBs? Is it run more like a ship because it has a 3rd Mate? Pay? Rotation? Quality of life?

Any info would be much appreciated, thanks

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u/Russcombs15 — 3 months ago