u/Sensitivepathologist

Good article for salary negotiation for jobs. Don’t get exploited or get lowballed by greedy pathologists boys and girls!

Don’t take these shitty jobs boys and girls.

High volume GI paying 280-293K is terrible. Unless they give you significant productivity incentives or if there’s another pathologist or pathologists there and you aren’t doing much work at all.

You’re being taken advantage of if you are actually being paid this much for high volume work.

There’s no shortage of pathologists if these gastroenterologists are still offering crap salaries. Pathologists need to take a stand and stop taking these jobs.

EDIT: This post is meant to spread awareness of exploitive practices. A lot of people fortunately read Reddit. Thus, we can use Reddit to spread awareness about exploitive practices/groups who are looking to underpay pathologists for their work.

These types of practices were more common in the past when the job market was tight, there were few jobs and salaries were abysmal.

Some of us had to take these kind of jobs because it was the only job we could find.

Now since the job market has gotten better, we have to come together to inform and look out for others and our field so we don’t take these jobs, that not only degrade our skills that we all work hard for, but our field altogether.

CAP and ABP are basically useless so we have to stick up for one another.

LAKEWOOD, COLORADO (USA). Location: Lakewood, CO | Employment Type: Full-Time | Start Date: Early 2027 | Salary: $280,000-$293,000 Gastroenterology of the Rockies is seeking a Board-Certified or Board-Eligible Pathologist to join our growing physician team. This full-time position focuses exclusively on gastrointestinal pathology, including the interpretation of biopsy and resection specimens from the esophagus, stomach, liver, small bowel, and colon. The ideal candidate will have fellowship training or significant experience in GI pathology and a commitment to providing accurate, timely, and high-quality diagnostic services in a collaborative, patient-centered environ

I got a hold of MGMA data. All these academic jobs paying 250-300 K (yes I see the job ads) are low balling you guys.

It’s literally 10th percentile guys. Don’t be a loser and accept these jobs especially if you are competent enough to push a lot of glass.

At least negotiate and demand more! We need to collectively fight back against these exploitive institutions.

Atlanta Gastroenterology Associates (AGA), based in Atlanta, Georgia, reached a $4.75 million settlement with the U.S. Department of Justice to resolve claims under the False Claims Act. The allegations centered on an arrangement with Advanced Pathology Solutions (APS), a laboratory in Little Rock, Arkansas, which helped AGA establish and operate a limited-capacity in-office pathology lab starting around May 2017.

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Nature of the Allegations
Federal authorities alleged that APS provided benefits to AGA in exchange for exclusive referrals of gastrointestinal pathology services. Histology technicians at AGA prepared and stained biopsy slides, while APS pathologists interpreted the slides and billed for the professional component. The government claimed these benefits constituted unlawful remuneration, violating federal anti-kickback laws.

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Additionally, AGA was accused of performing medically unnecessary "special stains" on biopsy samples. These tests were reportedly ordered automatically through a reflex process before a pathologist could review whether they were clinically required, leading to billing for services that may not have been medically justified.

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Timeline and Resolution
The relationship between AGA and APS lasted until approximately May 2020. The settlement resolves civil claims only, with no admission of liability by AGA. The case involved coordination among the Justice Department, the Department of Health and Human Services, the Department of Defense, and the Department of Veterans Affairs.

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Federal Enforcement Context
Officials emphasized that healthcare fraud negatively impacts taxpayers and patients. Assistant Attorney General Brett A. Shumate highlighted that the settlement reflects the Department’s commitment to ensuring federal healthcare payments are reasonable, necessary, and free from kickback influence. U.S. Attorney Jonathan D. Ross noted that fraud against taxpayers is a national concern, and enforcement efforts will continue to recover improperly paid funds.

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Key Takeaways
Settlement Amount: $4.75 million

Alleged Violations: Kickbacks for referrals and unnecessary pathology testing

Parties Involved: Atlanta Gastroenterology Associates and Advanced Pathology Solutions

Timeframe: May 2017 – May 2020

Outcome: Civil settlement, no admission of liability
This case underscores the federal government’s ongoing focus on preventing healthcare fraud, particularly in Medicare and other federally funded programs, and highlights the importance of medically necessary testing and compliance with anti-kickback statutes.
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Reddit pathology experiment here.

How many surgicals and cyto do you see a day? How many frozens do you do a day? CP work?

Do you guys feel paid fairly for your work?

Please list academic versus private.

I’ll go first:

Surgicals-15-20 (mix of biopsies, resections and junk)

Cytologies-average 5-10 cases (thyroids, non gyn, no paps)

Frozens: at most 2, on average 1 a day lol

CP work-signing documents, other than that minimal CP although I’m med director of small hospitals

Feel well paid for my work

Private