Are there any debombed builds of (or a way to debomb) 17692?
I ask because I wanted to mess around with the Windows Sets feature, and this is the last build it was present. I cant seem to find anything online.
Hello!
In case you dont know, Im the developer of the TRC App Suite, and Geode.
A suite of apps for productivity AND media, and an app for artists.
And a while ago I made a post here about a new app im working on, called Wyvern. Which is a discord alternative messaging app for Windows 10 and 10 Mobile.
And im now looking for beta testers, to help test out servers, DMs, and social features in general.
So far I have a BASIC DM system working, and im working on Servers right now.
The app will be similar to Discord, meaning it will have a separation of DMs and Servers, which will be divided into Categories and Channels.
Unlike something like Telegram which as far as i know is largely a flat message board with threads.
The app will be built FOR Windows 10 and 10 Mobile, so you wont have to worry about the risk of suspension like you do with a WP Discord client. (Made an account that got banned within 5 minutes when I tried to use one before, NOT doing that again)
The requirements are:
- You MUST have discord, as that is where I will announce new beta builds, notify testers about downtimes/database cleans, etc.
- You must be over 13.
- You must be available to test the app on Windows 10 or Windows 10 Mobile RELATIVELY often, such as within a week of a new build preferably.
- You must be able to provide clear feedback and constructive criticism.
If you are interested, please comment here or DM me with your Discord username + other general info, and I will send you an invite link to a server that I am making specifically for this.
I will start releasing beta builds once I get a good enough amount of testers.
Also, YOU MUST NOT SHARE THE BUILDS WITH ANYONE NOT IN THE SERVER.
Anyway, if you are interested let me know, and have a good day!
Edit: if you're wondering what beta testing entails: You will generally use the app as normal, but search for and report any bugs you find. You will also provide feedback on UI, features, or just how things were implemented. But otherwise you can use the app as normal in-between database cleans, which i hope will not happen often.
Remaking the wp8.1 Geode client and it figured id use a Hub control on both the phone and desktop versions
I also removed the background so that it fits more with the wp8.1 design language
Alongside other UI changes
Now this is just the home page + full post, I havent gotten profiles and stuff yet
(All of the photos are the new client except the last one)
Any suggestions or advice?
Oh, and please dont upload this to MetroStore when its released, thanks!
(This has nothing to do with the GD mod istg- I didnt know what that was when I came up with the name almost a year ago)
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Lets say i want to use a Lumia 640 with my TMobile SIM card for calling, texting, and data.
Now the only model that works on TMobiles network is the TMobile branded Lumia 640. But those are rare and hard to come by.
SO: What if I buy an unlocked, or AT&T variant of the 640, and flash the firmware from a TMobile model onto it? Its the same phone hardware so there shouldnt exactly be any driver issues.
If the VoLTE package is in the FFU/etc and its up to the carrier to add it, then wouldnt that work if its the same phone just a different carrier model?
Now I saw a comment on another post of mine here (from several months ago) of a person saying they could flash a TMobile firmware to a Cricket phone and that enabled it to work. Which if "could" means they actually DID, makes me think this could actually be possible. (But I want to know your thoughts before I go buying a 640 and testing it and stuff (id want to use the idol 4s but those are way too expensive even the unlocked ones, i dont want to save up over 100$ just for it to not work, yk?)
Here is the comment/post if your curious: https://www.reddit.com/r/windowsphone/s/9GnvdepJmT
Its a simple question. Do you doodle or draw on your windows phone? With your finger or a stylus.
I swear there is a point to this.
(Also did any Windows Phones have a Wacom or N-Trig digitizer? Im actually curious if any shipped with one...)
Im tryna remake Planet Life (my favorite game ever) in C#
(Its originally an HTML game but its too new so UWP/Edge wont run it properly)
Okay if microsoft didnt discontinue Windows Phones, would we have gotten Windows 11?
Think about it, would the UI redesign that would eventually become Windows 11 have happened if they didnt axe WP?
And more importantly if it did, would we have lost Live Tiles on the "Windows 11 Mobile", would Windows Phones get WinUI apps? Chromium? Or would Microsoft have just never created/implemented those technologies?
I legit cant get this thought out of my head.
Because theres no way that the UI design of W10M WOULDNT have still changed over such a long period of time, but would Windows as a whole still have changed to the 11 UI? Because ever since Windows Phone 7 there were live tiles so if the Mobile OS was still supported would we still have those on desktop?? (Live tiles with rounded corners floating NEXT to the start menu as widgets or something?)
I like thinking about "what if" questions a lot if you couldnt tell.
Ewwww imagine if we got Copilot on Windows 11 Mobile...
Gross.
Okay so first off heres a photo of Wyvern so far, not gonna give yall a beta until the UI is less... awful. But friending users + DMing + editing your profile does all work.
(And yes the app has a background, such is the case with all TRC apps and it WILL be customizable for free unlike discord)
Now second off I have a question to any other UWP/10 Mobile developers:
Do you need to build your app as release in order to test it? If not, HOW.
Whenever I test any, ANY app im making it HAS to be built as release or else it closes/crashes the moment it tries to launch on the phone. And yes the phone is interop/sideloading unlocked, and this issue happens with 2 seperate windows phones I tried it on, AND across different PCs with different versions of Visual Studio, but it just CANNOT run debug packages for some reason??? Which makes developing apps way harder in terms of debugging errors and such, alongside the very long build times that Release builds have. (This doesnt apply to desktop, that can run debug packages just fine but the Windows Phone (and Xbox one i was messing around with once) just cant)
Do any other developers have this issue or know a way around it? Funnily enough Windows Phone 8.1 doesnt have this issue, in fact even on Windows 10 Mobile it can run apps built for 8.1 that are also built as debug, just not UWP apps for some reason.
Hello!
Im (slowly) working on a new project for Windows 10 Mobile: Wyvern
Its a messaging app similar to discord (in that it has servers and channels NOT something like telegram which is a flat message board I believe)
Once I get it stable enough and get a TOS ill publish betas to the Live Store :] hopefully you all will like it, and the official client is UWP so it'll work on your windows phones without risk of your account being banned *cough, discord* (no seriously i made a new discord account to test the windows phone client and it got banned the second I went to send a DM, discord just sucks -_-)
Also i want to clarify something.
Ive seen people talk about a new store called MetroStore, I looked into it and many people claim the UI is vibe coded. As such I want nothing to do with it and will not distribute my apps on it. And i will look into pursuing any action i can to take them off should they be added without permission, which MetroStore does not and will not have.
So yes, Wyvern, Geode, and the entirety of the TRC App Suite will not be distributed on MetroStore. Currently the only places you can download them are the Microsoft Store and Live Store. If there are any other stores that offer a developer dashboard/developer account system of some kind let me know and I will distribute my apps on them :)
Oh and im unsure about Wyvern being available for Windows Phone 8.1, simply because of push notifications.
The app registration in Azure and the apps actual details need to perfectly match in order for WNS to work (which is how youd do notifications for new messages + live chats), without it im kinda stuck manually refreshing every few seconds which is just plain bad. The reason I cant make them match the official way is because the "Associate app with the store" wizard in Visual Studio 2015 doesnt work. It does in 2017 and up but those dont support opening Windows 8.1/WP8.1 app projects. :(
Ill look into solutions but if I cant find one then it wont be available on Windows Phone 8.1
Alrighty, ive been working on a music player for Windows called T-Music.
(You may already know of the Lite version, its up on the Live Store for 10/10 mobile)
But ive been slowly working on the full version since all the way back in February of 2025. But ive taken a lotta long breaks to work on other projects.
But now, I want to start working on it again. And one feature the full version of T-Music has, is the SoundCloud API. As full as I can make it.
Now im going to hafta restart development simply due to the fact that im a lot better at making UWP apps now than I was last year, and the old code is... awful. Plus the old betas didnt really work on Windows 10 Mobile cuz i didnt design the UI to work on it.
(By the way the app has offline files AND SoundCloud, not just streaming. (Also it has radio stations too))
But i have a question for you all:
Is it alright if the minimum windows version for T-Music is 1607 or higher, instead of 1507 like the rest of my apps? ONLY because background audio is way easier on projects targeting 1607 according to the official documentation.
I dont know if platform compatability is a big thing in the Windows Phone community so I just want to be sure.
(Also no it will not support Windows Phone 8.1 due to the platforms TLS restrictions making all API calls fail. But thats out of my control)
I was gifted a used Surface Pro 2 in late 2024 (i chose it), and I love it. Good for drawing and generally just... fun to use.
Issue is, i cant really CODE on it because of the tiny screen. And drawing in something like firealpaca is hard for the same reason.
The screen is just too small.
So ive been considering buying a used Surface Pro 3 as a replacement, because of the larger screen + new pen. (And the touchpad on the keyboard isnt level cloth... thats also a pain with the 2)
As for why im considering the 3: the 4 and later dont support Windows 8.1, which i love messing around with on tablets (and developing metro apps for)
So the Pro 3 sounds good for me! Im saving up to buy one at the moment, but i am wondering, does anyone whos used one here have any warnings or things i should know? For example I remember someone once mentioning an overheating issue, is that a concern?
I wanna use 8.1 more and develop my metro apps on it instead of 10, but i was also curious to see if I could work on an API as well, but the .slnx format that the solution is requires 2022 or 2026.
When you go to install 2026 on 8.1 it says the OS isnt supported, so what you gotta do is change it from 'install while downloading' to 'download all, then install'
It will download it, but then it will show the error again when installing. If you hit enter/cancel 2026 will still be there, it will just show as "paused", when I hit resume it suddenly started installing-
I have NO clue if ill actually be able to work on my API or even get 2026 to launch, but the fact that its actually trying to install is still really cool. Ill try to remember to edit the post to let yall know if it works or not.
Edit: IT WORKS!!!! I had to deal with the webview error but other than that its fine :D
Okay so as yall probably know, 1709 Windows 10 desktop got a new visual effect for UWP called Reveal, the light effects and stuff.
However windows 10 mobile didnt... KIND OF
If you open the microsoft store on mobile 1709, maybe even a few versions earlier, the split view buttons use reveal, and not the 1709 reveal but the 1803 and up reveal.
How??
(The difference: in 1709 a circle went towards the cursor than faded outwards, in 1803+ the circle just went outwards and was filled in)
And the groove music app on 1709 uses the proper 1709 reveal, idk why the microsoft store is using 1803??
And yet we cant even add reveal to a windows 10 mobile UWP app because when I try too it crashes, so how come microsoft did in groove? And how on earth did they get the desktop 1803 reveal on the store app on 1709??
This doesnt make sense...
About 2 years ago i was gifted a Surface Pro 2. And I love this thing! I also dual booted Windows 10 on it and its kinda good? Not as good as 8.1 when it comes to tablet UI but it was suprisingly fast (then again it was 1809)
But i prefer 8.1 (I CAN use 8.0 on it but I dont really like 8.0 so I choose not too)
But uhh ye, this is the 256/8GB model of Surface Pro 2, ive even had many visual studio processes open and its WAY faster than I expected. The pen layer is great for drawing, the bezel prevents accidental touches, and its just amazing to use...
BUT there is oooooneeee tiny issue with it: screen size. This screen is TINY, running visual studio on it and tryna develop is a nightmare because everything is so squished :( plus for drawing its a bit of a pain because it takes space away from the actual canvas. And I DO have a portable monitor i can attach it to but that kinda defeats the point a little bit (also 8.1 doesnt allow different dpi scalings for different displays which SUCKS because the portable display is a fair bit larger than the surface)
As a solution ive been considering buying a Surface Pro 3 which supposedly has a larger screen that's also 3:2 instead if 16:9, do you all think its worth it? Because I personally love the idea of having a portable windows 8.1 tablet with a detachable keyboard that also has pen pressure for drawing and is large enough for me to code on. Pretty sure the Pro 3 is good enough but what do you think? Especially those that own/owned one
Id likely get the 8GB model so its the same as the Pro 2 because otherwise it would largely be a downgrade and running several visual studio tabs on 4 GB of RAM is... a pain.
I currently use a different laptop as a main device (G751JL) but it's kinda broken and im tryna find a replacement thats more portable but still able to code my 8.1 apps on, do you all think its worth it? Or are there any issues or concerns
Heyo! Are any of you app developers willing to help me design the UI for a social app client im working on? The current UI is... lets just say awful, and i could really use some help with it. Im not the most familiar with Windows Phone 8.1 app UI design other than the wp8.1 versions of T-Notes and T-Plan ive made, but a social app is... a bit more complicated than those.. so even just commenting with advice would be really helpful, or just message me here or something? Either way id like any advice/assistance.
Ill attach screenshots so you get a good idea of what I got so far.
Its not a standard social media or image uploader, its an app for artists. (Many people seem to get that wrong)
Suprisingly, Windows 10 Mobile UWP apps can still recieve push notifications from WNS!! (Windows Notification Service)
Im making a social app for artists called Luminite, and i figured it would work on the desktop but then my alcatel onetouch buzzed and apparently it unexpectedly recieved the notifications as well!
I wonder if Windows Phone 8.1 apps could as well... the issue though is that id need an Azure app registration tied to the Partner Center app registration.
Which is easy to do, except I need to associate an app with the store (aka partner center) in order for the Package SID from the partner center and Client secret from Azure to work with the app and not give an "Invalid Client" error.
But Visual Studio 2015's store association wizard is broken, only 2017 and up still works.
I may be able to do it manually by copying and editing a storeassociation.xml file, and editing the appx manifest, but im not in the mood to try all that right now -w-
Imma focus on the UWP client a bit and get notifications stable and organized, THEN imma try to get the 8.1 versions working as well
Buuuut for now, push notifications for Luminite on windows 10 mobile work great :D
Ok so if the software package or whatever its called for VoLTE was left up to the carriers to include in their custom image or something like that, why cant we flash the os/firmware image of a carrier branded phone onto a non carrier branded phone to get VoLTE?
Like- why cant we take the os/firmware of an AT&T branded 950 and flash it to the unlocked variant of the 950? Why wouldnt that work, I mean theyre the same phone, just one is unlocked and one is a carrier model. And im pretty sure the hardware is capable of it.
Keep in mind: I know this is a dumb question and that it doesnt work. Because if it DID work then it would be a known trick, but what i want to know why it wont.
Hey so what kind of stuff could you actually run on Astoria? Like I have this old android game and im curious if it would run but idk...
If Astoria even works at all, I know basically nothing about it other then that it was scrapped
Now no hate to any of them and there are probably a few mistakes or missing information, BUT.
There seem to be... WAY too many stores being made..? Like off the top of my head there are: Octostore, Xenonstore, Neonstore, WSRP, Restore, AND the Live Store (although they host 8.1 universal apps i dont think theyll have an 8.1 store client so idk if that counts), AND probably more that I dont even know about.
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Now again, no hate at all, but why are there so many? I love healthy competition and having alternatives, but if there are so many then that will create the problem of some stores having apps others dont, meaning that users would need to download 2 or 3 different app stores just to get all the apps they need :( (kinda like streaming services is a good comparison I think, just free)
And I get that some may be for 8.1 and others for 8.0, but even then it feels like a bit much..?
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(I cant stress this enough: im not tryna be hateful, start arguments, or any sort of controversy or whatever, im just confused by it), it seems like there was nothing and now suddenly theres like 5 or more, its a bit jarring, in my eyes.
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(Also I will admit im a tad paranoid that one of them might list my apps on their store without my permission, them thinking theyre just archiving them or something)
So i tried to follow a guide that got wireless Continuum on non USB-C devices, and i thought it worked cuz i got the continuum app installed, but...
When I select wireless and hit connect... literally nothing happens. It doesnt go to the connect screen, doesnt show an error, nothing.
Does anyone know why or any fixes?
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Its the latest version of w10m im running