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I don't really have strong feelings on how the show should and except for that I really hope they don't go with the Alzheimer's route. I do think they're also probably going to end up with some type of shot to parallel the one in the pilot of Meredith walking out of the hospital after her first shift with everybody who is still willing to come back.

Without the Alzheimer's route as an option how do people think or want the show to end when it eventually does?

They're both going to end up pregnant at different points throughout the season because the only woman on this show that was allowed to not want kids with Cristina

I would argue that he started the show the same way he ended it by cheating on a woman. I don't care that Addison cheated first at that point just file for divorce you don't get to cheat on somebody just because they cheated on you. You also very much don't get to not tell your girlfriend anything about the fact that you're still literally legally married. Which by the way is exactly how he ended the show too he quite literally let that woman in DC flirt with him to the point where they kissed and only then did he bother mentioning that he was married.

Edit: I quite frankly do not care that Addison cheated first it is still very much cheating for Derek to move across the country and act like she never existed but never file for divorce and fully fall in love with another woman and not tell that woman he fell in love with anything about being legally married

I get the need for drama in a show like this but the fact that they genuinely made it seem like they hated each other for so many seasons became so annoying and tedious to watch as a fan. A lot of people will say that a happy relationship isn't compelling to watch but it's a whole hell of a lot more compelling to watch than whatever they had going on. There's a way to do drama Within an otherwise healthy relationship still have it be compelling to watch have them the fight about not being able to find a good work-life balance or how they want to raise the kids.

I was just talking to a friend about Grey's overall the other day and Addison came up. They said that they don't want Addison back because they're concerned about how they might find ways to further assassinate her character. I get the concern because her revealing she apparently goes home and when she does she's not really actually there is not her at all. While I totally understand the concern I wouldn't hate seeing her again just because it seems like Kate Walsh is game to come back as long as she can fit it in her schedule and who are we to stop her?.

On a bit of a sidenote about what the storyline actually is as for the actual horrible characterization I have what I think is probably at the moderately unpopular opinion. First off I think this divorce is unavoidable because I kind of think either Kate specifically asked for it as a condition of coming back or they got the idea from the fact she used to joke about Jake and her being divorced or Jake having died. That isn't the unpopular opinion though the unpopular opinion is I think there is actually one tiny little silver lining. which is that they aren't ending the relationship because of something mundane Addison cheating again. To me ending it because Addison cheated would have been worse than what they did because my personal philosophy is if you're going to ruin something ruin it in a big way like just not really being there for her family. I'm happy they gave her at least that little morsel of character development is what is otherwise a vast sea of character assassination.

I NEED them to stop teasing us with near-death experiences for characters if they're not actually going to go through with killing anybody. Which at this point after having Jo and Link almost died 5 episodes apart and with Owen's near death in the end of season 23 it's pretty safe to say they're not ever going to kill a character again. Which at that point it's not even drama if going into it we know going in that they're going to end up being fine

Kind of makes me laugh if I'm honest how much Addison does not care about Jake and Henry's safety and how much she cares about hers. She does not stop or reevaluate her work and try to find a safer way to do it even after being doxed which caused her family to move out of their house but yet when she comes back and season 19 after taking the PRT she takes two planes to Seattle and does not take a cell phone or a laptop because she doesn't want to be tracked. Then flash forward to Season 22 and find out that she's being barely going home and when she does she's not actually physically there because her mind is focused on her work still.

the fact that to that point he had not told her up until that point that you were still legally married shows to me that even if he did intend on telling her at some point that intention wouldn't have been followed through on. I truly think Addison was out of sight out of mind to the point where you just never even thought about drafting divorce papers signing them and mailing them to her. I honestly feel like had Addison not showed when she did he would have waited until they were pretty deep in their relationship tell Meredith about still being legally married like I don't know talking about building a dream house for them deep.

Edit: Derek does not get to be too traumatized to tell Meredith the truth not when The Narrative of Meredith and Derek the minute that they meet is that they are the love story of the show and Derek already loves her if he truly loved her he would have told her from the beginning. The second he found out they worked together and he wanted to pursue a relationship with her and pushed Meredith for it he should have been upfront and honest because he's the one who wanted the relationship at first at first Meredith just wanted to be co-workers.

Edit 2: he might have been intending to tell Meredith something at th dinner that Addison ended up interrupting but I don't think he would have went through with it though. At least not telling her the whole truth. The fact that even when Addison showed up he was not the one who told her exactly what happened and Addison was shows to me that he would have never told her the full truth

I've seen fans complain that she's annoying and whiny and bitchy but I just think those are moments of herself standing up for herself and fans not liking it.

Example: when she was upset with Alex for not telling Meredith to not barge into their room at all hours and then of the night to talk kicking her out of bed. I understand that they've been through a lot together but it's absolutely wild for Alex to not take his new wife's feelings into account see that she's uncomfortable and ask Meredith to not kick her out of bed in the middle of the night in a house that she doesn't even live in anymore just to talk. Even though there was nothing romantic going on between Alex and Meredith it's still absolutely reasonable for Jo not to like the fact that she barges in at all hours.

Not going to lie I wish that Katie had been able to survive because in the few scenes we got of them together when Lucas finally stopped acting just like her doctor I found them so much more cute together then I've ever found Lucas and Simone

Just a few examples

If Amelia was the one who batted an engagement ring into the forest in front of her significant other we would literally never hear the end of it

if Amelia went to her significant other with dream house plans and reacted the way Derek reacted when Meredith couldn't commit to them automatically by trying to make her seem like the insane unstable one fans would literally never forgive her for it

if Amelia was dating somebody while still actively being legally married to a man and not mentioning it to that man like Derek did with Meredith she would never hear the end of it

Derek stans and Defenders who defend him at every turn or literally the definition of "boys will be boys mentality" because they excuse everything bad he did because he's hot and a man

Obviously it's in amazing accomplishment for it I show that's 22 soon to be 23 seasons in but I I think people fundamentally misunderstand how much the show makes from streaming despite the show having horrible budgeting issues. I mean they just had to randomly write off to long-term iconic characters in the middle of the season and only give people a four episode lead up to their goodbye to free up cap space. Let's not forget that this season also saw them having to randomly write Amelia off for eight episodes without warning the fans first at least in part to do with budget reasons. At least it's hard not to look at them getting rid of Amelia for multiple episodes in the same way as them having to get rid of Kim and Kevin because now without those two other than the Ellen, Chandra and James and Cat is the highest paid after on the show. They simply do not make enough money from the streaming side of things even though they're constantly one of the most streamed shows to offset the cost of making the show and paying the crew and cast anymore

The ironic part of it is that streaming is going to be the thing that in a weird way eventually chokes the show out. Not because it makes more money than watching it live on ABC does or because that's the more popular way to watch it but because it doesn't make enough money to offset the cost of making episodes despite being one of the most streamed shows consistently for the past few years.

1. I was fully expecting Jo to give up OB however I was definitely not expecting her to say maybe she's over medicine in general
2. can't say I'm too surprised about Meredith and Nick. The more shocking about that situation is that Meredith is the one who proposed first but I kind of clocked that their story was going to eventually end with them bring married.
3. I'm going to be completely honest not vibing with Winston and Jules being each other's emergency contact already because they've only been dating for a month and nobody actually knows they're together officially yet other than Ben who accidentally found out at the end of the episode
4. yes give me all of the link addiction storyline please. I know that sounds incredibly rough because he has newborn twins Plus 2 5 year olds at home but I'm desperate for him to do something other than sit there and be the equivalent to a bump on the log character wise.
5. I want to like Toni and cheer for her and Amelia but after last episode not sure if I will be able to. It's not realistic to me that she could go from hooking up with Amelia like three times to going back to her ex-wife and trying to figure out if she was going to get back together with her. Usually if you're at the point where you're having sex with somebody and telling them that they aren't a consolation prize even if you have a kid involved in the divorce you should know what you want and who you want. I am just so unbelievably on over these 40 year olds being messy and going back and forth not being able to choose.
6. no tea no shade to Catherine but she had literally no role in the episode other than to do that ad for co-pilot and then show up and Beyond Bailey side at the end when Richard found out she had done surgery. It's giving no good reason for Addison to have been an episode 10.
7. I'm not expecting this but it would not Shock Me if Kwan gets fired and does not come back officially because other than this whole plot where he injected a patient with an experimental procedure that the FDA didn't approve he has nothing going for him really. Ever since they got rid of his ex-fiance once and for all he has had no romantic possibilities which is sort of a kiss of death on the show.
8. Webber you're pissing me off this episode you're being uncharacteristically tough on rule breakers for the first time in your life at a time when even Catherine is letting Bailey going against your words slide.
9. bringing back Sophia Bush's character for nothing but to sleep with Amelia who she had previously not shared a single scene with is the definition of pointless.
10. I can't really see how this Bailey going back to school plot is going to work out because apparently she's going to still be in every episode and you would think if she was going back to school she would at least miss a few.

Bonus point

I know this is an absolutely wild prediction with nothing to back it up but I wouldn't be surprised if because of the fact that season 23 is going to be even shorter than 18 episodes it will not Shock Me if the show in general switches from a September/October premiere and may finale to a January/February premiere with the May finale like the rookie does

I'm sorry but particularly the way that Derek treats Meredith is the cutest healthy relationship I've ever seen. There's literally a reason why so many people upon rewatch when they're older realize that Derek as a character sucks and you shouldn't strive for a relationship like Meredith and Derek

Not going to lie I kind of hate that they're story is going to end in Owen following her to Paris to keep the family together because it means he has to give up that job he was super excited about at the rural hospital where he was going to be building that surgery program from the ground up

Don't get me wrong I know it's relevant in the sense that fans are still are curious but ultimately in the bigger storyline of the show it seems like him being a Shepherd doesn't even matter anymore

we're at the point that even if we do find out who is mom is it's probably going to be through Simone being pregnant with his baby it being a daughter and him giving her his mom's name as a middle name.