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The requirements for this fight itself is basically non existent if you are a newbie you just can get stonecrusher + basic enchantments like fighter and you need nothing else and you would get rewarded not based on your forge but completely based of your skill that's not something I could say on most other ultras if we speak about let's say nulgath who is really easy , the DPS must have the best in slot to make the fight fast and easy with gramiel on the other hand you only need 4 players to do everything perfectly and you win simple st that but if you wanted something challenging (there was teams that includes shaman and lr which I sadly don't know if it still works after lr nerf someone confirm please) ، and finally to speak about the rewards of the fight I must say they are some of the best in the entire game and not too grindy to you only need the ultra itself for the most important things in the shop and even for the hollowborn vindicator class , the shop itself has too many good stuff like a 51% weapon a 30% all tags pet like Polly Roger and more good stuff , the fight itself intensifies the importance of cooperating with other players and learning the most important mechanic in ultras which is taunting , I'm honestly glad that the usurper fight also had a lot of creative design and also appropriate reward for it's effert too and I really look forward to seeing future designs , ok for real tho have you seen the absolute fiend that's the moglin in green dragon lair in infinity if that's the level of challenge there then I dread the day ultras comes to infinity lol

I'm now pretty sure we had enough time to finish the entire challenge shop so we can talk about the boss itself right ?

I personally liked it a lot a 2 person challenge to shake up the normal 4 player fights it's also palanced enough that a lot of duo classes work really well my favorite being lich + LR which was the easiest comp from my experience, and despite not having a Chrono right now I also liked that with set up and assistance a Chrono could quickly kill the boss giving back the high damage Chrono their use back lol ,

I also liked how they handled the scion class farm alot getting 20 kills on the boss wasn't easy in the early days even despite having all the forge in the game so if you are willing to put the effort to learn how to use a support class like loo correctly you will be able to get the class quite fast if you are social enough or with a guild's help and I would say scion is a very good option for a first 80+ class if you do get it.

Honestly tho one of the reasons for making this post is to give this reddit page a break from the usual ioda posts and game news and help posts lmao . just a funny discussion post lol I do want to hear what you guys think of the boss and farm design still .