u/SunMon6

Camrades, what do you think of the 7.0 World Quest?

Now that I've finished it, I'm kinda confused. Like, hoyo can still write good story in WQ I guess, like a standalone story I mean, because it was good as always, but also... idk i felt kinda random and pointless and... how to put it? Detached in a jarring way?

>!Like, so Tsar had its own "Fatui" before the Tsaritsa had her own Fatui, and apparently none of the two worlds collided and from what we've learnt so far it would seem Tsaritsa has zero connection to Belyi Tsar. She jus came out of nowhere apparently and took the throne after he was already dead. If I understand it right? Since in the lore it all seem so sudden and no mention about her or that she belonged to the Tsar's court (but then no idea how it even ties to Venti knowing her prior to becoming Tsaritsa if she just popped up in Sheznaya 500 years ago ???)!<

>!and then Aksinya actually entertains approaching the Tsaritsa about all this only for the plot to say "nah, you gotta disappear and reappear in 500 years for the Traveler world quest and do not even think about approaching the Tsaritsa!"!<

>!and their plan was infinitely stupid tbh. Like, I get it, and that it was the best choice at the time and it was personal for the Tsar due to his origins, but also it was a stupid plan to expand the Shadow Realm as a new shell devoid of time for the entire region and the world... while Tsaritsa is right there collecting the Gnoses and probably coming up with a much better plan after another 500 years...!<

>!and then it makes me realize Hoyo has been lying to us again in the teaser lol!<
>!because when they first revealed the Tsaritsa and she says "what Tsar has started, I will finish" because now it doesn't make sense, she literally purged everything he's done and had no connection to people who worked with him!<
>!and surviving people who worked with him became hermits who refused to work with her and kept in secret (because plot said so)!<
>!unless, based on artifacts, Izmaylow told the Tsaritsa in exchange for his position, but it's left vague and if that was the case... it would be pretty stupid of the Tsaritsa to ignore all this and googles and his parts and Aksinya...!<

>!And then Traveler was just like... well, ok, let's just kill them. No big deal. Googles has dreams and can't abandon the friend but wants us to kill them... and I will just kill them because it's fun instead of... idk. Telling them about Tsaritsa's plan and Pierro's plans and like... guys, wait, wait... go to the Tsaritsa and try to connect forces, nobody has to die.!<

>!So idk. It didn't feel right for me and the sudden switch from lets save googles because we love him to lets kill him nobody cares, let's scram before someone discovers the Tsar;s body is gone.. was way more jarring than normally in WQs!<

>!Ehhhh. It's all because even in the end game hoyo can't just do one consolidated story and tries to segment everything into completely isolated worlds and islands where AQ stuff cannot even get a proper backstory or appearance in the world quest, like, idk, Tsaritsa actually being a part of Tsar's team or Alsinya or Primordial Human/Tsar/Googles doing something that would ultimately help in her waaaaay better plan.!<

>!Plus, I still have no idea where all the abyss actually came from unless i didn't understand it? They did mention Rotwang but didn't explain anything. From Nod-krai we only know he did smth to maybe cause it, but not sure what and how and when, and it's never explained. Or was it the Tsar and his goal that cause it? No idea. ps: I know about Sampo, the Bunker, and everything, it's just that the lore doesn't seem to outright say who exactly caused the abyss invasion in Snezhnaya and how!<

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u/SunMon6 — 10 hours ago

In retrospect... any thoughts?

I actually liked 7.0 and how they've treated Signora and everything, which was more than the doomposting predictions, and hopefully, assuming they don't mess up with the Tsaritsa, it'll be good going forward. But also... I gotta chuckle now, because isn't that jarring?

In Fontaine they have entire setup about Stuzha being dangerous, the House and the children being selected for "key" role which implies danger and sacrifice, courtesy of the Rooster and Pantalone manipulations, and possibly because the Tsaritsa "no longer has any love left for her people" and the sacrifices must be made for the greater cause (which btw is the sole reason why the organization like the House, which has brutal history, even exists in the first place, or why people like Dottore or Crucabena were tolerated to begin with). Arle is also dropping hints left and right if need be she will go against the Tsaritsa or - at the very least - she will covertly work on opposing Rooster and Pantalone, and whatever fate Project Stuzha meant for her children, to the point she needed to weed out the "weak ones" longing for the light. But then...

>!Arle is nowhere to be seen (so far), Project Stuhza is literally opposed by half of Snezhnaya, while Rooster and the other Harbingers secretly oppose it too (in their hearts!) or at the very least try to do everything in their power to provide for their people and avoid any casualties. Also, it's just energy distribution plan that they're debating in the Veche, what possible "dangerous" purpose the members of the house have been given or what is this "key" role? LOL. Or are they assigned as miners now, like child slave labor but of course hoyo is going to keep silent about all that? 🤡!<

My expectations were already super low since hoyo consistently dismantled them and that's why I liked the AQ, was even surprised at how good it was, especially if I don't particularly care about the Fatui in the context of the entire game when playing it. But unless by some miracle they will come back to this plot point and make it make perfect sense... ehm, it's probably a bit laughable now.

Just how many times did they blatantly change their mind about the overreaching Fatui plots and rewritten their stories?

The core lore about angels or Celestia actually stands solid like a behemoth. Or even Hexenzirkel (which so far serve as a "fun" "comedy" talkative faction mostly and haven't done a lot yet outside of their fairytale projects and Durin). But with Fatui it's like the wind blows a different way every nation.

I will never in the world get it. Honestly. Arlechinno was well selling character back then and she was even allowed to almost murder Furina, beat the Traveler in combat and brutally murder a noble in her promotional material, with a heel. But they literally stopped doing this for Harbingers and now these CANON setups of backstabbing and betrayal or her children being treated as lambs for slaughter are never going to materialize probably. At best maybe smth about the House having the wrong idea because no one told them the details and it was actually all chill. At least that's what I expect ... and I'm going to just enjoy >!Pierro nuking Ronova!<

u/SunMon6 — 5 days ago
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"Fraudingers the Show" Seriously, what I've just watched?

I know I should have known better after Bina, with how every single plot point of her "backstory" was poorly explained or went wrong, but this thing now, this is something else!

What happened with Pierro's voice and the weight of it? Why does he sound... well, like that? After 500 years he is monologuing to the active Harbingers like they're some entry level hamburger salesmen at McDonalds in a Pokemon show.

My boy Childe is restless, yeah, but this is just some bad joke, what's with the yawn, he's done better when he was pretending to be a toy salesman!

Kudos to Signora for the villain's smirk but then it's just "there are ASPECTS of her plan that I share and that's enough for me!" so I guess that's it then, she never knew anything about the new world stuff, she was just sympathetic to some heart breaking drama she heard about the Tsaritsa's love life. Guess next year that entire passionate speech of her at Tenshukaku won't make any sense anymore

I respected Arle and defended her in Nod-krai, even with cat ears, but now she just looks like a teen again... or something? Or perhaps way more psycho than we imagined I guess, since she doesn't even act THIS SWEET and EMOTIONALLY EXPOSED next to her CHILDREN. Compare this one to her shorts and House scenes. Maybe she has two alter egos, like Layla.

Bina is a black hole, so Sandrone is barely a character and this short isn't really about Sandrone. It's the same all over again but somehow even worse. I felt so booooored. Zero hype. So they showed us scenes they should have showed us in the story since they made this entire Bina x Sandrone thing the point of the story, but now that they did... they haven't actually fixed/explained anything and only made it 10 time worse.

Pantalone's weird ahhh as if he was doing something else nasty next to Dottore wasn't even synced with his mouth movement, it sounded off lol. I guess he also doesn't care much about what Fraudierro the Director of Winter Burgers is talking about.

Dottore just standing there stone faced, probably shocked by this brand new reality.

And where the fuck are the rest of them? Having Scara or even Capitano there would have been off probably, since you can't easily get a comedy gag out of their Fatui selves.

Pulcinella is too short, so they just forgot him.

Also, noticed the organ music? It has like... that way of rendition that I've seen on some shows where slice of comedy, not seriousness, is a norm, and where nothing truly serious ever happens and it's just cheap gags. It's like they're outright MOCKING the Lazzo now. This really feels so damn off lmaof.

I wanted to play Lohen's Quest but... now... I just disabled the launcher and can't do it. Seems Hoyo knows how to completely kill the mood.

Honestly surprised at how low we've now hit but I'm lucky I got cured beforehand and won't be affected. Throw the Tsaritsa at me, I'm ready

u/SunMon6 — 2 months ago