How retail investors get diluted while the story seduces them
(Note: This is a data heavy piece. It is written as a counter argument to a comment that called the original post stupid, so I have gone deep into the annual report, cash flow statements, warrant mechanics, and share count math. Hope it is worth your time.
I am adding a compressed version in the comments with the exact parameters you need to check for dilution in any company you hold. If the full piece feels dense, start there)
Every IPO has a story. And stories are designed to seduce. That is why Buffett and Munger have always stayed away from IPOs. Their argument was simple: most of these instruments are designed to take value from retail investors, not give it to them.
This post is about exactly that. The dilution mental model. And how it integrates with the IPO mental model to show you what is actually happening to your ownership while the story is playing out.
Ratnaveer Precision Engineering is just the working example here. But once you see the pattern, you can map it on any company you hold right now.
That is the point of this post. Not Ratnaveer. The pattern.
The original post on Ratnaveer is here if you missed it: A promoter built a private bank inside his listed company
Before the IPO there were 3.47 crore shares in existence. Today there are 6.82 crore shares. After the upcoming rights issue there will be roughly 8.56 crore shares.
Your share count has not changed. The total share count has nearly tripled. Your ownership of this company has been cut to less than half of what it was on listing day, without you selling a single share.
That is dilution. And this is how it happened.
Chapter 1: Before the IPO
Two pre-IPO placements happened quietly in the months before listing.
- December 2022: shares sold to select investors at Rs 67 per share.
- January 2023: shares sold to select investors at Rs 72 per share.
Ten months later the IPO price was Rs 98.
The people who got in at Rs 67 and Rs 72 made 35 to 46 percent before the IPO even opened. Retail investors who applied at Rs 98 were already buying at a premium to these early insiders. The game started before most people knew there was a game.
And in November 2022, ten months before listing, the company changed its name from Ratnaveer Metals to Ratnaveer Precision Engineering.
Same products and just a new costume. Peter Lynch 101. Precision Engineering sounds high-tech and high-margin. Metals sounds like a commodity shed in Gujarat.
Chapter 2: The IPO
IPO opens September 4, closes September 6, lists September 11, 2023. Subscribed 94 times. Listed at 37% premium.
Here is what actually happened that day.
- Fresh shares issued to public: 1.38 crore shares at Rs 98. Company received Rs 135 crore. This money went into the company.
- Offer for Sale by promoter: 30.40 lakh of the promoter’s own personal shares sold at Rs 98. Rs 29.79 crore went directly into the promoter’s personal bank account. Not the company’s account. His account.
Retail investors handed the promoter nearly Rs 30 crore on day one for shares he already owned.
- Promoter holding before IPO: 86.3%
- Promoter holding after IPO: 55.48%
He sold 30 percent of the company to the public and pocketed Rs 30 crore personally on listing day.
Chapter 3: After Listing
This is where most people stop watching. They should not.
- Preferential allotment FY24: 45.50 lakh shares issued at Rs 134. Share count goes from 4.84 crore to 5.32 crore.
- QIP December 2025: 1.27 crore shares issued to institutions at Rs 145. Share count goes to 6.60 crore.
- Warrant conversion 12 December 2025: promoter gets 20.27 lakh shares at Rs 133. Market price that day: Rs 159. Discount per share: Rs 26. Value transferred from public shareholders to the promoter: Rs 5.27 crore. Recorded nowhere on the P&L.
- CCPS conversion March 2026: promoter gets another 1.24 lakh shares at Rs 148.27 via a preference share instrument he had issued to himself.
Share count now: 6.82 crore.
Before the IPO it was 3.47 crore. Your ownership of this company has been cut almost in half without you selling a single share.
Chapter 4: The Warrant
A warrant is a pre-locked coupon. It says I can buy shares at Rs 133 anytime in the next 18 months. The price is fixed when the coupon is issued. If the stock rises between then and exercise day, the warrant holder pockets the difference.
Look at what happened in the same week of December 2025.
- Institutions paid Rs 145 via QIP.
- Promoter paid Rs 133 via warrant.
- Retail paid Rs 159 on the open market.
Three prices in the Same week.This is how the incentive structure of this company actually works.
Chapter 5: The “Buying With His Own Money” Defence
The argument goes: he is buying shares with his own money so he must believe in the company.
He is not buying at market price. He is collecting a pre-locked discount.
Exercising a warrant at Rs 133 when the stock is at Rs 159 is not conviction. It is collecting a coupon that was already in the money. Anyone with that coupon would exercise it.
A promoter with genuine conviction walks into the open market and pays Rs 159 like every retail investor. He did not do that.
The 6% open market buying before the rights issue also has a simpler explanation. Higher holding on the rights issue record date means bigger entitlement to discounted rights issue shares. It is position management before a discount capture, not belief in the business.
And the promoter is already making money through the dilution itself. Not through selling. Through the structure. Every warrant conversion, every CCPS, every rights issue subscription at a discount is value captured. The share count goes up. Retail gets diluted. The promoter’s absolute share count stays roughly the same.
The promoter does not need the stock to go up to make money. The structure is already working for him. Every time retail buys the story and the stock rises, the next discount he captures gets larger. Every time a new share is issued, your ownership shrinks a little more.
Chapter 6: The Rights Issue
Rs 330 crore rights issue approved. Stock today at Rs 252. Issue price likely around Rs 180 to Rs 190.
Promoter at 45.49% holding gets roughly Rs 150 crore of entitlement at that discounted price.
Discount to today’s price is roughly Rs 63 per share on 79 lakh shares. That is Rs 49.7 crore captured by the promoter through rights issue pricing alone. Not recorded as a cost anywhere.
And here is what the money is actually for.
Rs 255 crore of the Rs 330 crore, 77%, is going to working capital. Not the CCL project. Not new capacity. Working capital.
The business cannot collect the cash it has already reported as profit. Trade receivables jumped from Rs 66 crore to Rs 175 crore in a single year, a 165% jump while revenue grew only 20%.
You are being asked to fund the gap between profits the company has booked and cash it never actually received.
You already paid for that profit through the price you paid for your shares. Now you are being asked to pay again to actually collect it.
Chapter 7: Is the Promoter Diluting Himself
No. He is not diluting himself. He is diluting you.
- Promoter holding September 2023: 55.48% of 4.84 crore shares = 2.685 crore shares.
- Promoter holding today: 45.49% of 6.82 crore shares = 3.102 crore shares.
His percentage appears to have fallen by 10 points. His actual share count increased by 42 lakh shares.
The percentage drop is an optical illusion created by share count expansion. Simply issuing so many new shares to everyone else that his percentage naturally dropped even as he accumulated more shares for himself at below-market prices.
Your slice of the pie was cut in half. His slice stayed roughly the same size. He grew the total pie, kept his own portion constant, and made sure every new slice he personally received came cheaper than what retail paid. That is not conviction for me .That is capital structure management in his own favour.
Chapter 8: But They Are Reinvesting. Is the Dilution Not Justified?
This will be the counter argument. Dilution is not always bad. Amazon diluted. Infosys diluted. Every great compounder raised capital at some point. So why is Ratnaveer different.
Three reasons.
First, where is the money actually going. A company that dilutes to reinvest must show the capital is going into high return productive assets. At Ratnaveer, Rs 255 crore of the Rs 330 crore rights issue, 77%, is going to working capital. Not factories. Not CCL lines. Not new capacity. Working capital. You are not diluting to build. You are diluting to fund the gap between profits reported and cash never collected. That is not reinvestment. That is plugging a hole.
Second, what is the return on capital already deployed. Every time a company asks for more capital the first question is what return did you generate on the last capital we gave you. ROCE across six years at Ratnaveer: 11%, 11%, 14%, 13%, 14%, 12%. Never above 14%. Currently falling despite significant revenue scaling. The business is generating less return on every rupee of capital as it gets bigger. That is the opposite of what reinvestment led compounding looks like.
Third, who captures the reinvestment benefit. Even if you accept that some dilution is needed for the CCL project, the structure of how that dilution happens matters enormously. When the promoter raises capital through a rights issue priced at Rs 185 against a market price of Rs 252, he captures Rs 67 of discount per share on his entire entitlement. The reinvestment may benefit the company. But the mechanism transfers value from retail to the promoter at the moment of issuance.
A promoter who is genuinely reinvesting for all shareholders raises capital at fair prices, shows improving ROCE on previously deployed capital, and demonstrates cash conversion from operations before asking for more.
None of those three conditions are met here.
Chapter 9: What the Numbers Actually Show You
This is how to think about the dilution mental model and what it does to your returns.
Look at the quarterly data first.
- Sales have moved from Rs 118 crore to Rs 315 crore over three years. Nearly tripled.
- Profits have moved from Rs 8 crore to Rs 18 crore. Around 1.5x.
- EPS was Rs 2.37 three years ago. Today it is Rs 2.55. Barely moved.
Revenue tripled. EPS went nowhere. That gap is dilution doing its work quietly in the background.
Now take the longer view from Mar 2020.
- EPS was Rs 17.70 in Mar 2020. Today it is around Rs 10.
- Sales have gone roughly 4x.
- Profits have gone roughly 10x.
Every influencer and every bull is screaming about those numbers. And they are real. But the EPS has gone backwards because so many shares have been issued over these years that your per share earnings actually fell even as the business grew.
Now look at the shareholding pattern. This is where it gets really interesting.
- FII holding two years back: 10.45%. Today: 3.53%. Absolute shares fell from 50.7 lakh to 24.1 lakh. They sold and walked out.
- DII holding: also decreasing quarter by quarter.
- Public retail holding: went from 34.05% to 48.98%. Absolute shares went from 1.648 crore to 3.34 crore.
In a genuinely high quality company the public holding keeps decreasing because institutions keep buying. Smart money accumulates. Retail gets crowded out slowly.
Here you are seeing the exact opposite. Institutions are leaving. DIIs are leaving. Retail is filling the gap that smart money is quietly vacating.
And here is the most striking number in this entire story.
Before the IPO, the entire company was 3.47 crore shares. Every asset. Every machine. Every future rupee of earnings. 3.47 crore shares was 100% of Ratnaveer.
Today retail alone holds 3.34 crore shares.
Retail has accumulated a share count almost equal to what once represented the entire company. And in return owns less than half of it.
Retail paid for the equivalent of the whole pre-IPO company. And received less than half of it in return.
That is what dilution does. You keep buying. Your share count grows. You feel like you are building a position. But the pie is expanding faster than you can accumulate. And your actual claim on the business keeps shrinking.
Chapter 10: Cash vs FCF
The P&L will never tell you this. The cash flow statement will, if you know where to look.
The company reported operating profit of Rs 115 crore in FY26. Cash from operating activity was negative Rs 48 crore.
That is a Rs 163 crore gap between what the P&L claims and what the bank account shows.
Free cash flow across every single year of available data:
- Mar 2020: negative Rs 3 crore
- Mar 2021: positive Rs 1 crore
- Mar 2022: negative Rs 28 crore
- Mar 2023: negative Rs 18 crore
- Mar 2024: negative Rs 54 crore
- Mar 2025: negative Rs 43 crore
- Mar 2026: negative Rs 155 crore
Seven years. Six negative. The one positive year was Rs 1 crore.
This business has never in its recorded history generated meaningful free cash flow. Not once.
The profits exist. The cash does not. Those are two very different things.
Trade receivables tell the same story.
- Mar 2020: Rs 64 crore
- Mar 2021: Rs 33 crore
- Mar 2022: Rs 40 crore
- Mar 2023: Rs 63 crore
- Mar 2024: Rs 45 crore
- Mar 2025: Rs 66 crore
- Mar 2026: Rs 175 crore
For five consecutive years receivables stayed in a stable range while the business grew. Then in FY26 receivables nearly tripled to Rs 175 crore in a single year while revenue grew only 20%. Debtor days doubled from 27 to 60.
This is where the reported profits are sitting. Not in the bank. In invoices raised but not paid.
Borrowings have gone from Rs 140 crore in Mar 2020 to Rs 335 crore in Mar 2026. After raising hundreds of crores through IPO, QIP, preferential allotments, and warrants, the company still carries more debt than it did before any of those raises happened.
The equity raises did not reduce debt. They funded working capital while debt stayed elevated and kept growing.
- ROCE across six years: 11%, 11%, 14%, 13%, 14%, 12%. Never above 14%. Currently falling despite significant revenue scaling.
- OPM has ranged between 8% and 12% for three straight years with no expansion despite revenue nearly tripling.
A business that triples revenue and cannot expand its margin by even one percentage point is not compounding. It is running on a treadmill and calling it a marathon.
Chapter 11: The UAE Subsidiary
My original post said the UAE LLC was incorporated 36 days before the IPO. That was wrong. It was 36 days after listing. That is my error and I own it.
But correcting the timing does not close the question.
- October 2023: subsidiary incorporated in Sharjah free trade zone.
- FY24: zero revenue, zero profit, not yet operational.
- FY25: same. Still not operational.
- February 2026, 28 months after incorporation: Rs 23 lakh transferred in as token capital. First and only financial transaction.
- Q1 FY27, June 2026, nearly three years in: zero revenue, zero profit, confirmed by the auditor.
Three years. One transaction. Rs 23 lakh. In a free trade zone built for speed. From a company that exports to 31 countries.
If anyone can explain what this entity actually exists for, I am listening.
So every year this business reports profit. Every year that profit fails to convert into cash. Every year the cash gap is plugged by raising equity or borrowing.
Each equity raise dilutes retail. Each borrowing raises interest costs, which are now at Rs 20 to 24 crore annually and growing.
The receivables line absorbs more cash each year as the company books sales it cannot collect. The ROCE is declining as capital intensity rises. And the OPM has not budged despite a tripling in revenue.
The CCL project requires Rs 472 crore of capex. The rights issue raises Rs 330 crore, of which Rs 255 crore goes to working capital. So even after the rights issue, the CCL capex is still largely unfunded. More equity raises will follow. More dilution will follow.
The numbers across seven years of data do not show a business building toward a breakout. They show a business that has always consumed more cash than it generates, funded the gap through capital markets, and used each funding round as an opportunity for the promoter to capture value at below-market prices.
And before anyone comes to argue: ask yourself one question first. After reading all of this, can you put 5 or 10 percent of your net worth into this company right now? If the answer is yes, come argue. If the answer is no, please do not waste your energy or mine debating this further.
For me, cockroaches in the account books are just the visible sign. What they tell me is the capital allocator behind them is not running this for you. I do not buy the story being written and sold. I look at where the cash actually goes, who captures the discount, and whether the person running the company is building for everyone or extracting for himself. That is my lens and I am comfortable with it.
The stock can go wherever it wants in the short term. Stories seduce. Narratives move prices. But business reality is slower and more honest than markets. A business that cannot convert profits into cash, that funds its own working capital by diluting the people who trusted it, and that has never generated meaningful free cash flow in seven years of recorded history will eventually be priced for what it is, not for what it claims to be becoming.
I stay away from models where the promoter’s incentives and the shareholders’ incentives are running in opposite directions. That is not a debate. That is a filter.