u/Terrible_Matter5154

>"And when we say also that the Word, who is the first-birth of God, was produced without sexual union, and that He, Jesus Christ, our Teacher, was crucified and died, and rose again, and ascended into heaven, we propound nothing different from what you believe regarding those whom you esteem sons of Jupiter"- Justin Martyr, first apology, chapter 21

Christians(namely protestants with some catholics and some Orthodox) of today constantly argue that no other Gods have died and ressurected which is ironic to have the writings of the early Christians that differ. One person who comes to my mind is the YouTuber Inspiring philosophy who compares other deities to Christ.

Other than that, I find it funny how long ago it dates back to how Christians demonize other beliefs.

I used Justin Martyr just as evidence of an early Christian thought, but I will cite him again along with his deluded claims.

Justin argues against his opponents by making an outrageous assertion that can essentially be paraphrased as;

>Nothing about a dead and rising deity should be unfamiliar to you but...our belief is real and your dead and rising gods stem from the ole devil dude whispering it in you and your ancestors' ears

Actual citation:

> But those who hand down the myths which the poets have made, adduce no proof to the youths who learn them; and we proceed to demonstrate that they have been uttered by the influence of the wicked demons, to deceive and lead astray the human race. For having heard it proclaimed through the prophets that the Christ was to come... they put forward many to be called sons of Jupiter." Justin Martyr, first apology, chapter 54

I find this hilarious as you would see Christians(all) spout with Muslims when they make the Claim that Islam came first by saying that Muslim means anyone submits to the will of Allah. When you have their early church fathers, early Christians and saints arguing that their leader existed before them all but information was tainted because of the whispers of the devil and that Philosophers like Socrates were Christians before Christ.

Seeing how hypocritical they all are is funny.

I am an atheist and have made that known in my previous post.

I spoke about how I was reminiscent of my religious days as far as being a Christian reading the gospels and what Jesus represented. Like love, forgiveness, community, etc. Yet somehow every one that responded to my post could not comprehend what I was saying.

Saying things like, "you like the character of a racist homophobe and sexist". I was stumped because Jesus never taught anyone to be racist, sexist and homophobic. Nor would I ever like a character that did. What i saw was people ignoring what I said and just sort of mocking me like I was some believer 💀.

All in all, can a person not appreciate ancient literature and genuinely enjoy it or reminisce on some things of their past life? I know there are many who have a bad history with religion but please just read the post.

Hello, I wanted to know whether Pharaohs were seen as actual Gods or was it more of a title? I also recall it being a shift over time, but I'm not really sure of the nuances for each period.

Just wanted to keep it short and simple, thank you!

Hello, I am an individual who has recently become intrigued with Joan(Jehanne or Jeanne?) D'arc's story. I was wondering if she actually fell from a high tower. I have tried looking into it myself, but the sources I have been looking at say she fell 30 m(98 feet) and others 60 feet. I feel like that's too broad of an estimate. I don't know if Historians have a consensus on the topic or not. Do they?

Also, could there have been other factors that increased Joan's likelihood of surviving the fall? I was thinking that perhaps people are mixing up the height of the tower with the distance of the fall? I personally think that the tower may have been 60 feet tall and that she was in a room significantly lower than that. Ledges or some sheets she used to get down, but fell in attempt could have been into play too I supposed.

I am just really intrigued by her story with the visions being my focus of skepticism and trying to form my opinion about her.

So, all in all my questions are:

Do we know the measurements and design of the tower?

How high was it?

And any other possible factors?

For those that interact with this post, Thank you!