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I want to make a post about MPL PH production quality so I took a look back on last season production.

And holy shit they really want to push another golden rivalry and its the same issue as their "moniker" problem its simply has no substance matter of fact the only reason why they are being called that is because of the team where they belong in.

But I am not saying their rivalry can't be called golden or any kind of prestigious title all I am saying is that give them more time to create tension this is like storytelling 101

Since although I have her premium team I keep on struggling on endgame content and in most disk drive websites my yi xuan is on the top 5% and both lucia (w/ sig) and Dailyn (w/o sig) are properly built so I think its a genuinly skill issue on my part so I am looking for a vid or channel that teach or showcase her rotations

Was talking to my friend the other day about TLPH shocking 1st round exit and how thats the first time in history a heavy favorite to win went out (though Aurora was shocking but everyone was not expecting them to win M6) and that convo somehow turns into what teams are dominant in each year

we settled on this list here are what follows
20 - Bren esports - since only M - world happened this isn't a shocker

21 - Blacklist international - back to back to back to back finals

22 - no dominant team - our reason being no team during this team really dominated in all MPL circles aswell as the international stage echo only really shined in M4 and was absent during season prior they didnt even attend MSC.

23 - Onic ID - same reason with BLCK

24 - SRG - the infamous 120 day winstreak though even though M6 onic were dominant we still agreed that SRG deserves it due to going 3 back to back finals

25 - TLPH - same with BLCK + seagames

the most surprising about this is no team dominated for more than 1 year and seeing other teams performance this MSC maybe this cycle will continue on

Of course I do have him as the goat of the gold lane (but that doesnt mater much since SM will surpass him this MSC)

But recently I keep seeing in other social media platforms acting like kelra is this super untouchable (in terms of legacy) and super consistent guy that from the start of his career and the only reason why he doesn't have more trophy was because the lack of help he had over the years

So I want to use this post to debunk the exaggeration since its getting rampant now

1.) Legacy wise no one is above him in the gold lane - exaggerated

being a trifecta both tournament and fmvp is one of if not the most talked about aspect of his career but there is the glaring lack of consistency between titles starting from MPL S9 (where they lost to RSG) and MSC 22 he has had a international appearance until M6 even then after that peek they finished 3rd and didnt even qualify for M7. Even his podium finish is less impressive compared to his peers

If we are only specifically talking about Legacy "the filipino Scatter" Oheb is above him despite lacking in MVP's but he makes up in it with more podium finishes and more MPL Trophies. though with how things are going it wont be long until Supermarco surpass that

2.) Super consistent from the start of his career. - Super exagerated

People seem to forget that Kelra's career isn't one long upward climb. It's two separate peaks with a very long valley sitting between them. His debut year with Execration was impressive MSC 2021 Finals MVP at 16 years old is genuinely remarkable. But what followed that was three consecutive seasons of Smart Omega barely surviving past the play-in stage. S10, S11, and S12 were essentially dead seasons for him competitively. And this wasn't because he was working with scraps either. His Omega rosters included Z4pnu, Kielvj, Renzio multiple time MPL champions and Raizen who was considered one of the better junglers of that era. That is not a "lack of help" roster. That's a veteran-loaded squad that still couldn't get out of play-ins together.

His FNOP run in S14 and M6 was genuinely dominant and nobody is taking that away from him. But one legendary season surrounded by years of underperformance is not consistency. That's called a peak.

3.) The lack of help narrative — The most exaggerated part

This is where the fanbase really rewrites history. The "lack of help" argument only works if you ignore who was actually on those rosters. Beyond the veteran-heavy Omega core already mentioned, when he joined ONIC for S13 the team still finished 5th with K1NGKONG and Super Frince around him. It wasn't until the full Super Family roster clicked in S14 with Kirk, Brusko, and a completely rebuilt system under YNot that the results came. That's not Kelra finally getting help. That's Kelra finally getting the RIGHT system.

Even Kelra himself has never pushed this narrative. He was the first one to shut down GOAT talk after M6, pointing to players like KarlTzy who have far more championships as the real benchmark. The revisionism is entirely a fanbase construction, not something he's asking for.

The irony is that the exaggeration actually does a disservice to what Kelra genuinely achieved. The triple Finals MVP record is historically unique and that alone earns him a place in the all-time conversation. But propping him up with false consistency claims and a victim narrative doesn't strengthen his legacy it just makes it easier for people to poke holes in.

with all that being said He is still the number 1 or for others a top 2 Gold laner of all time but people need to stop exaggerating his career

(to those asking who are my top 5 gold laners all time are as follow)

1. kelra
2. Oheb

3.SuperMarco (super mac mac) (bulletproof super marco) (the funniest gold laner)

4. Innocent

5. Ribo

and yes I have ribo and innocent over bennyqt

Here are my main arguments

1. Shallow trophy cabinet relative to peers
His major titles are: M7 World Championship, 1x MPL PH championship , and MSC 2022. Compare that to someone like Kairi who has 6 MPL Indonesia titles, an MSC title, and multiple Grand Finals MVPs compared to Demonkite's resume is thinner in volume even if it has the "trifecta" label.

2. The "trifecta" is inflated by recency
His M-Series crown only came at M7 in 2026. For most of his career he was a bridesmaid, he was almost winless after moving to Aurora Gaming PH until winning the world championship, a long drought that raises questions about consistency at the highest level.

3. No dominant stretch
Top 15 all-time players usually have a run a period where they were undeniably the best. Demonkite's consistency was mostly at the regional level, frequently finishing on the podium from MPL PH Seasons 13 through 16, but podium finishes aren't the same as dominance.

4. MVP résumé is weak for an "all-time" claim
He didn't win any regular season awards in MPL PH for years, his only regional MVP came in MPL Malaysia Season 12, a weaker league. For an all-time great jungler, that's a glaring gap.

5. Competition wasn't elite across his titles
The M7 grand final was a 4-0, but the strength of the field and whether he was personally the best player on his own team during that run can be questioned. Hell I can even go as far as saying if not for Edward and ligth burning their future potential they would have met the same fate as TLPH and SRG.

Also I take back my statement of light being a top 15 player of all time i was having recency bias during that time

TLDR: he is a narrative merchant.

With the recent matches we almost have seen a crazy upset between SRG and BTR that unfortunately didn't came into fruition and also over in indonesia we have seen the suppose super team with kelra still struggle against multiple teams in the regular season and with TLPH showing us that they cannot be put on the same tier as those other super teams will we see a repeat of M6?

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