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The Fanatic, the God of ???

The Fanatic, the God of ???

The Fanatic is a god whose dominion is unclear. So I wanted to ask you which domain you think The Fanatic controlled?

Personally, I have a theory that The Fanatic might be a God of Justice, mainly because of things like the Zealous Hammer, the Zealous Axe, and the Zealous blunderbuss. The Hammer and Blunderbuss, based on their descriptions, and the Axe, based on the Ancient Tablet VIII. Likewise, due to the personality of someone devoted to the First Gods and their desire to protect their laws. From that perspective, The Fanatic would be like a judge and executioner of the Heretics.

u/Training-Squirrel-42 — 12 days ago

The Five Bishops of the Old Faith

Here's a drawing I made of the Bishops. It's part of my project for an update of The Fanatic, for a chess-like game, and I wanted to share it.

Most of the inspiration came from the Puppet Show, relics, spider critter from PILGRIM Comic and followers forms.

u/Training-Squirrel-42 — 12 days ago

Debunking facts that are believed to be true, but are not (Spoilers in subsequent photos, view at your own risk)

Well, this is a short post to talk about some beliefs that people have about CotL and that they think are canon, because they're passed around by word of mouth in the fandom. So here we're going to talk about it, and take the opportunity to also look at some new information brought from Woolhaven.

The first belief is that Narinder is in Purgatory or the afterlife; Narinder is not in either of those places. Purgatory would be an intermediate layer between where Narinder is and the mortal realm, the layer between Life and Death. While the afterlife, also known as The Next, would be the Ether, something beyond where Narinder is. Narinder is between Life and The Next; this place is known as The Gateway, and as its name suggests, it is just that, a gateway. That place at the door to what would be that place where all souls must go, but it is not the place.

When you lose due to a lack of followers (Devotion), the Red Crown is destroyed; this belief arose from an animation that can be found on the wiki. But this animation is actually an unused animation; it's not part of the final game. In fact, a sample of what The Lamb looks like after that Game Over is obtained can be seen in the tutorial of "A Shepherd Without a Flock". The Red Crown looks perfectly fine without any problems.

Another common belief is that Leshy has only one eye. This stems primarily from the fact that Leshy's bandage only has one hole, in addition to the lyrics of Leshy's metal song called Chaos, where it says that Leshy only has one eye. But as for the music, this song, in the first place, is not canon, so that's the reason for the inconsistency. And regarding the number of eyes, the game often makes it clear that Leshy has more than one eye. And if the relic we have made you believe that he only has one or two eyes, it's because he himself says that one of his eyes was saved, and also because the relic is inconsistent with the number. Since the relic summons two eyes instead of one, which also happens with The Icegore's eye, which we know only has one. And well, the Puppet Show already told us how many eyes Leshy had.

Another belief that I think has begun to diminish over time is that Haro is the father or another brother of the three ducks. And I think we know up to this point that it's not like that. Haro is not the creator of any of them, nor is he related to them, because in the first place Haro was a Crowned God, not a First God, who are already dead. Furthermore, we now know that the one who created the three is the Last of the First Gods, who, incidentally, we know died taking their final breath in Pilgrim, in one of Clauneck's dialogues.

Another thing related to Haro is that it was believed that his appearance, which looks the most normal among gods, was due to his crown being "dead," so his appearance changed to a more normal one. And in Woolhaven we see that this is not the case; he has always appeared this way, even as a God with his active crown.

Another popular belief during the Woolhaven exit was that Yngya was not dead when her heart was ripped out, or that it was her disciples who killed her, or even that she was the one who allowed herself to be sacrificed and that the ritual of The Rot would be created. And the truth is, no, Yngya died at the hands of the Bishops; by the time they ripped out her heart, she was already dead. And this can even be confirmed with a simple fact: the flail that killed her became a legendary weapon, and to achieve this, this weapon must have killed her. In addition to that, there are Aniel's Lamb Tablets which talk about Sariel and the disciples' dialogue while performing the ritual.

And finally, this last belief, that Shamura and The Goat have a connection within the game. This was fueled by two things: a parody video, one of the hundreds on the Massive Monster channel (which, for obvious reasons, is not canon), and merchandise including a t-shirt featuring The Goat with Shamura. Neither of those things is actually canonical content within the game, and if we're going to explore that, there's absolutely nothing in the game itself that connects them, not even the shape of the crowns. The Goat has had more connections with the Red Crown than with any other crown, and even in the game itself there is a Tarot Card of The Goat world with a Narinder wearing the same crown.

And the last belief, which is more of a common misconception due to confusion within the fandom, is that there weren't many gods for a long period in the game. And the thing is, not all gods are bishops. People often call all gods bishops because the first five gods we knew were bishops, but there are only those five. The rest of the Gods are called as such, Gods, and obviously have various titles such as: Great Hunter, Cold Mother, etc.

u/Training-Squirrel-42 — 15 days ago

Is Narinder innocent?

I’ve seen people try to claim several times that Narinder is the most innocent Bishop, that he never did anything wrong, and so on. I wanted to make this post to point out that this isn't true. Narinder isn't innocent; he’s just like his siblings.

Narinder possesses the same level of sadism and cruelty as his siblings; he is no saint who feels affection for his followers. He even takes pleasure when we are ruthless and sacrifice Ratau.

The claim that Narinder did not commit genocide is an argument used to exonerate him. However, this is a lie; like the other Bishops, Narinder committed genocide alongside his siblings solely to gain power and absolute control over the other gods of the pantheon. It was not because the other gods had done anything to them; they did it purely out of greed and a lust for absolute power.

Another point worth highlighting is the reason why Narinder decided to defy nature and attempt to open the Door between Life and Death. We know that Shamura supported him and planted the seeds of change, but the fact remains that Narinder embraced the idea; he was already eager to do something different because he felt dissatisfied. It wasn't as if he was short on followers or in danger of starving, he was simply... bored. It all stemmed from the fact that Narinder was bored.

There is a nuance here: one aspect involves an action that depends heavily on the world's own perspective. In his experiments, Narinder sought to open the Gate between Life and Death; how does that differ from the resurrection ritual we use? It literally erases the line separating the living from the dead, we know this brought followers back to life simply because the separation no longer existed. In the world of CotL, doing this goes against nature; it is tantamount to tearing the very fabric of reality and threatening to destroy the world, and I think we all know that’s not a good thing. Another point worth noting is how he was essentially letting his siblings die; we don't know if he was fully aware of it, but it is highly probable, given that a god absolutely requires devotion and followers to survive, or else face death.

At this point, can one really maintain the idea that Narinder is an innocent dove who has done nothing wrong? Because I think the answer has clearly been made out to be no.

u/Training-Squirrel-42 — 24 days ago

Anatomy of Gods (Woolhaven spoiler at the end)

I compiled information on the anatomy of several Gods from CotL. Since I had several sprites on hand, this was quite an interesting compilation, as well as verifying the sprite animations and how their bodies are constructed.

Leshy's anatomy was the easiest to determine, because we observed his entire body in various ways. Leshy unfortunately doesn't appear to have a tail, and thanks to the Puppet we know that grayish part is his neck. And then there's the issue of the eyes, with the mouth in the middle of the face just like the mouth. And the curious fact about Leshy's heart inside his head, and that what appears to be his brain, has nothing inside, it's mostly just a hollow shape.

This anatomy surprised me the most, since I'm sure everyone imagines Heket with huge arms and quite chubby. But her arms are quite thin; she also looks somewhat plump because her bishop's robe makes her look larger than she actually is. And the dress, or whatever she's wearing underneath, shows that she's even thinner than that, so much so that there isn't a single crease (just like Kallamar). Although she also has a rather small body, smaller than I imagined. And an interesting detail: she has yellow sclera in her eyes, which is only visible while she transforms and her irises point upwards. And thanks to her Eldritch form, we see that her throat is more open beneath the bandage; she really does have a large wound that appears to have been sutured.

Kallamar is even funnier under his robes; his body is simply tentacles, and he has two arms, as the other arms appear to be just part of his Eldritch form. His heart is also close to his neck, This could really get close to the actual anatomy of a squid, only their hearts are higher up and smaller haha. There's also the fact that, despite Kallamar's ears appearing to fold, they are actually normal ears that face forward, which is perhaps a little odd. And Kallamar's head looks like a bullet hehe.

Shamura has the most mysterious anatomy; we know that they have a normal body with a ribcage in their normal form. And we can also see Shamura's heart in that part, although later in the Eldritch form the position of the heart changes to the abdomen of the spider body. Although this cannot be canonically verified in the Punished form, because when you defeat them they becomes a follower. And I won't consider the times after canon, because it reuses the corpses of normal Eldritch forms. The strangest and most bizarre aspect of this anatomy is the skull. We know that those holes on top aren't eyes, thanks to the Puppet Show, although we don't know what they are either. And I think we'll never really know what Shamura's head with skull looked like.

Narinder is the one whose anatomy we know the least about; we only see his arms and head, and it seems that he had that type of arms before, although it's difficult to know for sure because of his position in the statue. It also remains to be seen how Narinder's claws worked, since the skeletal hands don't suggest how they would fit together. And then there's the position of the heart, which is uncertain because it's Narinder's corpse if you defeat him, but that was discarded, so knowing if his heart is in his head is uncertain.

Haro has the same body as Leshy, that's all we know about him. We know Yngya has a body under her giant fleece because of her Shrine, and we also see that she has her thumbs on the wrong side haha. And then there's the most remarkable thing, the seventh eye she has, which many people don't know is an eye. And then there's The Fanatic; we only know that they had at least three eyes, confirmed by their remains, and also that they had a hand with five fingers. A snake with arms, that's quite curious haha.

And that was the compilation. I hope it's useful to someone and that you liked it. I didn't take Leshy Follower's animation too seriously because it's clear they took creative liberties. Also, some anatomies look quite strange if you see them without all the layers on top.

u/Training-Squirrel-42 — 1 month ago

Narinder True Form

Well, I think we all know that "Eldritch" form of Narinder, right? But have you ever wondered why he can take this form without sacrifices or performing a ritual like bishops? Well, it seems the answer lies where answers have always been found lately...the game's script, yes.

At this point it's funny, and perhaps a little annoying for some, that a large part of the information comes from there. But anyway, without going into too much detail, it seems this form of Narinder is his True Form. This could explain why, unlike the other bishops, he didn't need to do the same things they did to have that appearance.

Perhaps he acquired it by becoming the most powerful God? If so, how on earth could the Bishops even be opponents for him when the five fought between them? Furthermore, Narinder apparently appeared in that way at the Puppet Show for Ratau; poor rat, he got the fright of his not life.

So, what do you think about this?

u/Training-Squirrel-42 — 1 month ago

The Fanatic Shrine

This is a Shrine I made of The Fanatic, trying to make it closely resemble CotL's art style. I hope it turned out well.

u/Training-Squirrel-42 — 1 month ago

Puppet Show Material

Well, after so much time, confirmation that the Bishops were critters came with the Puppet Show and the official account that made the puppets.

Also revealed was the cult of Ratau, and the origin of the scarf he wears, which came from the sacrificed follower.

Also, more photos from the Puppet Show, behind the scenes, and a photo with Chemach and the crowns, a scene we all surely would have loved to see.

u/Training-Squirrel-42 — 1 month ago

Other Lambs (Woolhaven Spoiler)

For those who didn't already know this information, what was your reaction upon learning that the Minibosses from The Rot (minus Mammon) were lambs? Even Asbeel, yes, the Miniboss who looked like a beetle.

How do you think Yngya and The Lamb will react to them?

u/Training-Squirrel-42 — 2 months ago

The Goat theory and discarded content

I've noticed that The Goat's crown has always been presented at different times as the Red Crown, and this made me wonder... What if the color of The Goat's crown is purple because it's the corrupted Red Crown? We've seen that corruption has always been depicted in purple, what if the same applies to the crown?

Now, moving on to the discarded content, while looking through the script, I found something very interesting. A scrapped game mode called Evil Mode. You know what's interesting? We weren't going to play Cult of the Lamb, but Cult of the Goat. Furthermore, it seemed that in that world (or rather, mode) our missions were going to be guided by a devouring hole. However, as you can see from the script itself, this was completely replaced by the Pilgrim Edition.

This discarded lore from The Goat is interesting. What was that hole? Who or what was it? And more importantly, was it what caused the corruption of The Goat's world?

u/Training-Squirrel-42 — 2 months ago

CotL Wiki Update #7

Well, this is the wiki update that brings quite a few sprites to the wiki, a big thanks to my friend Twins for this. And well, I hope the artists enjoy having the new sprites that are now on the wiki.

The first major addition is finally the enemies from The Rot, in addition to the enemies exclusive to the Yngya battle. I'm surprised that among so many sheep-like enemies made of The Rot, there's only one enemy that isn't like that, the Necromancer. Why is that enemy there? And what is they doing?

You can now find the corpses of all the enemies and minibosses of Ewefall, plus two discarded buildings, but the corpses are the important thing here haha. You can find it on their respective pages.

Then there's the page for these exclusive enemies, the kamikaze lambs, or by their name, Lamb Chunk. This is the first time I've seen an enemy have variations, which is similar to the variants of certain enemies, only in this case they are the same enemy but with different appearances.

I didn't want to make this update too short, so I've included some little curiosities.

According to the sprite of Poyel's corpse, they are called King of Lambs. The reason for this is unknown at the moment, but if you have any ideas, you are always welcome to share them.

Also, if you look closely, you'll notice that the design of their corpse uses Poyel's conceptual version.

Looking at the corpses, I realized that these two enemies might be, or perhaps are, the same species of wolf, because they share the same corpse sprite. Quite curious hehe.

Here's a comparison of this enemy called Jailer, internally known as Single Dad, with their concept versions. Do you think they're a lamb that wanted to survive by offering their offspring, or that they killed the jailer and both bodies came together because of The Rot? It's actually quite a curious alias, and it makes you think about the relationship between the lamb they holds and the enemy themselves.

Well, that's all for now, I hope you enjoy the wiki :)

u/Training-Squirrel-42 — 2 months ago

Woolhaven conceptual art

Here, we're going to show you some small, shared concept art pieces about Woolhaven. This is all from @ renato_meyer_art on Instagram

Brogy and Dorry are a duo of Minibosses who were going to be the third ones we would fight instead of Gorgo. Its main mechanic is that if you killed one of them, the other would transform into rage mode. The reason, it seems, would be a kind of gay husbands. His initial designs were redone to fit CotL, and even then they ended up being discarded. GIVE ME BACK MY GAY WOLVES I LOVE THEM

Next, we have a chimera design by Abas, which looks pretty cool. We also have some conceptual beings about that enemy who keeps hitting us with a lamb, and apparently he was known as "Single Dad". Apparently, he was a lamb father who would lead his children, it seems, in a rather shady way. There are also other enemies that I cannot identify.

I guess someone wanted to compete with Koka for being the best CotL parent haha.

We can see several enemies in their early concept designs; apparently, the lamb with a boomerang head was originally going to have the appearance of a primate. Then there's the lamb with a thousand corpses on top; they'd have a somewhat more... humanoid design. Also visible is the conceptual art of the lamb with a chain head. And there are some not-so-recognizable wolf enemies. But the important thing is Poyel's design, which was made with the intention of triggering trypophobia.

We have another look at a sketch of the enemy lamb with several corpses. A design of wolves with a dog-like appearance, like almost all the others in the Free Pack. And a kind of enemy, rat or wolf or wolf with the appearance of a rat; at this point, the anatomy in CotL is really difficult to understand.

The first mechanics would try to make use of rolling. The first form involved enemies that stuck to The Lamb, and to eliminate them we had to roll. The second way was that enemies who were vulnerable had to be rolled under or through, so that they became vulnerable and you could then attack them.

The other mechanic was the ability to bounce enemies when you hit them, and in addition to that, it seemed you had to hit certain things using this bouncing mechanic. The other is something we saw in the lamb snail enemies; basically, the small critters would group together and create a big enemy.

And well, I'll try to add some of these things to the wiki very soon. I hope you liked it a lot, haha. I recommend you go see the artist; they have beautiful drawings. In addition, the artist is also the creator of Ophans.

u/Training-Squirrel-42 — 2 months ago

CotL Wiki Update #6

Well, I've made a big update to the Wiki, which took me over 7 hours glued to the PC, so I hope it's to the liking of those who view the wiki.

First, it's a large list of characters who now have updated images for their Infoboxes or galleries; this update is mainly a large addition of image content.

The other part was finally completing the Dorry Juiced Rage form section, as well as finally adding the Dorry Juiced and Brogy Juiced galleries. Also, to let you know that they will probably have their own pages very soon.

That's all for now, what else would you like to see on the wiki?

u/Training-Squirrel-42 — 2 months ago

Haro's biome

After taking into account the current situation of the lands. Knowing that the Bishops reformed all the lands, and seeing from the map that some parts of the lands were cut off, this came to mind.

Seeing that the small island where the Haro Shrine is located, besides being the only area with sand besides Pilgrim's Passage, and a type of fruit never seen before (coconuts). I have a feeling that perhaps that island was once connected to Pilgrim's Passage in the past, until the Bishops decided to take the place.

In case you didn't know, it seems the Bishops do have some control or knowledge over this place, as mentioned in the Pilgrim comic.

But anyway, with all that said, what name would you give to the Haro's biome considering all of this? A name for a beach with palm trees and coconuts

u/Training-Squirrel-42 — 3 months ago

The First Gods, creators of all living beings

Now we're dealing with something very important, a discovery I found in the script, about the origin of all living beings in CotL.

Ichor, we all know what that is, right? It's the blood of the gods, more specifically, but what matters to us here is the origin of this blood, the First Gods.

It turns out that the creation of all living beings came from the blood of the First Gods. For those who don't know, the First Gods have two aliases; one is the most well-known, "Great Ones," but the other alias for them is "Old Gods." When we talk about Old Gods, we're not referring to the ancient gods with crowns, keep that in mind; it's a reference to the First Gods.

And getting back to the topic, living beings came from the First Gods. At least according to this discarded curse, because yes, this comes from a discarded curse. And if this continues to be the case, it answers a rather old question. Who came first, the Gods or the followers? With this, the answer is obvious: the Gods came first, and only then did mortals emerge from their blood.

With this new knowledge, what do you have in mind now regarding this?

u/Training-Squirrel-42 — 3 months ago

Zealous Pen

Zealous Pen: Record the fates of the faithless for all who would question.

I made a drawing about the Zealous Pen. The reason I drew this is because I realized it existed in the Lofi Lamb.

Would you like me to draw other versions of pens?

u/Training-Squirrel-42 — 3 months ago

Woolhaven New Fleeces

I wanted to draw Yngya's fleeces that are closer to the ones she uses, since the one in the game is a fleece that she has never been seen using, and the only ones who use them are her lamb followers (Lost Souls). And well, I also wanted to make a fleece for Marchosias haha.

God of Winter Fleece: When you take damage, regardless of your heart type, you will freeze enemies.

Fleece of the Shrine: It has no special effects (It's Cosmetic)

The Heathen Fleece: Performing two combos in a row with your weapon will cause a lightning bolt to strike a random enemy.

u/Training-Squirrel-42 — 3 months ago

Haro x Yngya (Woolhaven beta)

In the early version of Woolhaven's story, Haro would have had a larger role, as well as a very close relationship with Yngya 👀

Haro was already familiar with Woolhaven, and he seems to miss the place, and he emphasizes something about it: the Shrine, the Shrine that has the shape of Yngya hehe.

Haro also often visits Yngya on the mountain. He feels such revulsion that he utters a word no one would ever imagine him saying, because the place where they met had been contaminated by The Rot.

And well, after that, I just knew I had to draw haha

u/Training-Squirrel-42 — 3 months ago

Gold Ritual

Thanks to the Art Book, it can be discovered that Midas does not have the power to turn people into gold; rather, it is through a ritual.

Although the origin of this ritual is unknown, it is very possible that it was given by the Gods of Gold to Midas.

What are your opinions on this?

u/Training-Squirrel-42 — 3 months ago

Wiki help

This is a request for CotL players who play on Apple Arcade. We planned to add the Follower form sprites for this version to the wiki, but a problem has arisen . The sprites of all the Follower forms are white, because adding colors is done through code.

So, everyone playing this version is asked to take a high-quality photo of these boxes with the Follower forms heads. Any help in contributing to the wiki would be greatly appreciated.

To get better resolution in screenshots, according to Google, there is this function:
On your iPhone, go to Settings > General > Screenshot and select HDR. This saves the image in HEIC format (a modern Apple file format). It preserves more brightness and color than the standard SDR format, which compresses the image into a PNG file. Your screenshot's resolution will always match your screen's resolution. PNG format saves the image with higher color fidelity, whereas HEIC allows for more intense colors (HDR) but uses compression to save space.

u/Training-Squirrel-42 — 3 months ago