The Stock Tests Our Patience. CLOVER Tests Our Thesis.
Dear Longs,
I realize how tough it is to endure a stagnant stock price. Our expectations are lofty—and justifiably so. We want to break things, go outside and scream, and, in my case, pull out what little hair I have left on my head. Not much is left to pull!!
What helps me is the conventional path CYDY leadership has chosen to follow. First, you clean up your own house, and we all know how long that took. Then you establish a clear direction. In CYDY’s case, that means prospectively demonstrating that leronlimab works in solid tumors.
I get that we’ve had a few side roads with MASH and inflammation, but we are moving forward in the solid-tumor space. CYDY has improved its financial position by renegotiating obligations with Samsung and Fife and raising money that, according to leadership, should provide runway through August 2027.
They have also introduced LL and its mechanism of action to academic institutions, allowing us to keep other irons hot while moving CLOVER forward. Institutions such as Cornell, MD Anderson, and Mayo have been discussed in connection with this work, including Cornell’s Alzheimer’s trial and other efforts moving through institutional review. The patent portfolio continues to develop, and I believe parts of it could provide a meaningful moat.
But what gives me the most satisfaction—and CALMS my emotions—is the information we’ve received about CLOVER.
I want to make sure everyone understands why a reduction in ctDNA matters, even this early. I am certainly not the first to discuss it. MGK, Twinter, BGT, rogex2, Lab Monkey, Lopside Roof, my69z, and a host of others have dug deeply into this topic. Yet I still see confusion among longs about what these results do—and don’t—tell us.
The key takeaway is this: CLOVER’s reported two-week ctDNA decline is encouraging because published metastatic colorectal cancer research shows that early reductions can precede and correlate with later tumor response. Its importance will become clearer when those early blood-test changes are linked to sustained responses, scans, and survival in the same patients.
That is why I see the anticipated ESMO presentation on October 25, 2026, followed by ASCO-GI, as an opportunity to begin establishing a TREND LINE.
My understanding is that the ESMO presentation will focus on two-week biomarker data. We should be careful about assuming what scans or other results will be available. A molecular response can emerge before a change becomes measurable on imaging, which is part of what makes ctDNA interesting.
If we see encouraging changes after ONLY TWO WEEKS, that will be worth paying attention to. But we also need to keep our terminology straight: the roughly 30% tumor-shrinkage criterion used to define a partial response is different from the overall response rate, which measures the proportion of patients who respond. Neither should be casually assumed from an early ctDNA result. More importantly, molecular changes are unseen through a visual assessment of a scan. Whatever scan results that are reported after two weeks will be remarkable for only two weeks but I am not going to fret over ORR, Partial response or stable response until we get more mature data.
What I hope scientists at ESMO walk away asking is: “These early results are remarkable for only two weeks. What will longer follow-up look like in these same patients?” The results across the two dose groups could make that question even more interesting.
Based on the published ctDNA research, I am optimistic that more mature data will trend in the right direction. I hope the anticipated ASCO-GI presentation in January 2027 gives us substantially longer follow-up, potentially including 24-week results for some patients. The actual follow-up will depend on enrollment dates and the presentation’s data cutoff. BGT has offered a more detailed discussion of that timeline, but that level of detail is not the purpose of this post.
I am sharing why this process helps me stay grounded. Clean up the company. Establish a clear clinical direction. Fund the work. Generate data. Present it. Build on it.
That is the conventional playbook successful companies follow. In my view, CYDY is working through that playbook. It doesn’t guarantee success, but it gives us concrete progress to evaluate.
There are two things CYDY cannot control: how patients ultimately respond to LL and what the stock does from day to day.
Some days, it sure FEELS like somebody is “F”ing with this stock. But the market’s daily nonsense does not determine what LL does in a patient. That battle is being fought in the trenches against mCRC, and I remain highly confident in LL’s potential.
Another post I appreciated was from ibelieveinCYDY, discussing what it could mean if a patient improves enough to become a candidate for surgical resection. Becoming eligible for surgery could be an encouraging clinical development. How that patient’s outcomes are counted, however, depends on the study protocol and its prespecified analysis. But, from what Ibelievein cydy discovered; was very promising and favorabe to the CLOVER data.
I can’t remember exactly where we heard it—I think it was one of the Paulson presentations—but I recall Dr. JL saying that a patient was doing well enough to become a candidate for tumor resection. We don’t know how often that may have happened, and I don’t want to turn one reported example into a claim about the entire trial. Still, that is the kind of development that gets my attention.
These are patients facing very difficult disease. I believe CLOVER has the potential to produce results that compare favorably with SUNLIGHT. Personally, I hope we beat the pants off it. But comparing separate trials requires care, particularly when patient populations and prior treatments differ. The CLOVER data will have to make that case.And CLOVER HAS A VERY STRONG ARGUEMENT. Our Cohort of patients is SIGNIFICANTLY more challenging.
As we know, CLOVER is OPEN LABEL. That gives the investigators and company visibility into treatment assignments and accumulating results, although we should not assume how frequently leadership reviews the data. It also creates the possibility that potential partners could review more detailed information through appropriate confidential discussions, subject to applicable obligations.
Now, I am making a BIG assumption here, but I think it is worth explaining my thinking.
If the ongoing accumulating data are compelling, CYDY could have more mature information available for potential partners than the early results presented publicly at ESMO. I would hope leadership is arranging meetings with companies it has already spoken with.
Leadership has also described feedback from two Big Pharma companies along the lines of: “See how far leronlimab can go without an ICI.” If I have understood those comments correctly, that makes the developing CLOVER results particularly relevant to those conversations. Those two BP's I would think would be sitting in separate hotel suites anxiously awaiting an update on CLOVER.
The public presentation in Madrid may give us an early snapshot. What interests me a lot more is the possibility of private discussions about more mature interim results.
I would LOVE to be a fly on the wall in those meeting rooms.
To be clear, I don’t know whether those meetings are scheduled, what data might be shared, or whether any company is ready to act. That is my speculation. But if continued treatment produces stronger clinical outcomes alongside those early ctDNA reductions, I can certainly see why a potential partner would want a closer look.
Will there be enough evidence for a SMART Big Pharma company to make a move before the world sees more mature results at ASCO-GI in January 2027?
I FREAKING HOPE SO! Why would a BP want to let paradigm shifting CLOVER data become public at ASCO-GI and let other BPs to become competitive with the current discussions. NO WAY, would I want to bring in more competitors.
For now, I am watching the clinical progress and reminding myself why I invested. The stock price tests our patience. The data will test our thesis.
Take a BIG breath in, and let it out.
I believe we’re gonna be ALRIGHT!!
Have a GREAT WEEKEND!