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A platform for automated training of mammalian cell physiology

The team built a “Cell Trainer”: an automated microfluidic system that repeatedly stimulates living mammalian cells, watches their physiological responses and can change subsequent stimulation in real time. Think operant-conditioning apparatus for cells—although the present evidence does not yet demonstrate genuine learning.
In one experiment, repeated DMSO pulses triggered calcium spikes in mouse muscle cells. Responses grew stronger over successive pulses, a pattern consistent with sensitization. The analysis also detected timing-dependent changes around an omitted expected pulse, but these “anticipation” results were inconsistent and explicitly require further investigation. Human prostate-cancer cells responded differently to the same stimulation, showing that the platform can resolve cell-type-specific physiological dynamics.
The more consequential engineering result is closed-loop control. Using kidney fibroblasts carrying ArcLight, a fluorescent pH/voltage reporter, the apparatus monitored the cells continuously and automatically delivered acidic-medium pulses whenever their average signal crossed a chosen threshold. It therefore did not merely administer a predetermined treatment—it sensed the cells’ changing state and adapted its interventions.
Why it matters for bioelectricity and morphogenesis: Levin frequently describes cells and tissues as adaptive control systems whose electrical and chemical states encode goals, memories and preferred anatomical outcomes. Testing that idea requires more than photographing voltage patterns: researchers need to perturb cells repeatedly, measure their responses and determine whether experience changes how they process later signals. The Cell Trainer supplies that missing experimental infrastructure.
Its immediate readouts—calcium dynamics and an indicator sensitive to voltage and pH—sit directly within the electrochemical machinery underlying developmental bioelectricity. In the future, adding electrical, optogenetic and additional voltage-sensitive inputs could let researchers search automatically for stimulation protocols that move cell collectives between stable physiological states.
That could eventually matter for morphogenesis because regeneration and anatomical regulation are also closed-loop processes: tissues detect deviations from a target form and coordinate corrective activity. A system capable of “training” cellular response policies might offer a route to modifying those collective setpoints without specifying every gene-expression or construction step. It could potentially help persuade damaged, cancerous or otherwise maladaptive tissues toward healthier attractor states.
The crucial limitation is that these experiments concern cultured-cell physiology, not regeneration or anatomical patterning. Growing calcium responses can arise from ordinary biochemical sensitization, and the feedback experiment demonstrates machine control of a reporter signal—not that cells learned the task. The authors appropriately describe the biological findings as preliminary.

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u/Visible_Iron_5612 — 21 hours ago

Luca Turin, Xenon, and the Strange Possibility That Consciousness Can Feel the Spin of an Atomic Nucleus

Some scientists spend their careers filling in the existing map. Luca Turin has spent his asking whether the map is missing an entire dimension.
Turin is a biophysicist best known for reviving the vibrational theory of smell. The conventional explanation says odor receptors recognize molecules primarily through their shape and chemical interactions. Turin proposed something stranger: receptors may also recognize a molecule’s vibrational spectrum through inelastic electron tunnelling—essentially turning part of the nose into a microscopic spectroscope.
The theory remains controversial, with mixed experimental evidence. But it reveals Turin’s characteristic question:
What if biology routinely uses physical properties that our simplified biological models overlook?
And that brings us to xenon.
The noble gas that switches off consciousness
Xenon is a noble gas with a full outer electron shell. It is famously reluctant to participate in ordinary chemical reactions—the antisocial aristocrat of the periodic table.
Yet breathe enough xenon and you become unconscious.
Xenon is known to interact weakly with proteins and ion channels, including NMDA receptors. But exactly how chemically diverse anesthetics all produce the same extraordinary transition—from an experiencing subject to an unconscious biological body—remains incompletely understood.
In 2014, Turin, Efthimios Skoulakis and Andrew Horsfield placed living fruit flies inside an electron-spin resonance spectrometer and exposed them to several general anesthetics.
Xenon, nitrous oxide, sulfur hexafluoride and chloroform all produced rapid changes in the flies’ electron-spin signals. Most of the changes reversed when the anesthetic was removed. Anesthetic-resistant mutant flies also showed altered spin responses.
The researchers proposed that anesthetics might perturb the electronic structure of proteins and interfere with biological electron currents—not simply bind to a receptor like a conventional key entering a lock.
Electron spin changes during general anesthesia in Drosophila — PNAS
Then the xenon experiment became genuinely weird
In 2018, a separate research group led by Na Li performed an elegant experiment using four isotopes of xenon.
All xenon isotopes have the same number of electrons and therefore virtually identical conventional chemistry. What differs is their nucleus:
Xenon-132 and xenon-134 have zero nuclear spin
Xenon-129 and xenon-131 possess non-zero nuclear spin
If xenon’s anesthetic action were determined entirely by its electron shell, protein binding and polarizability, the four isotopes should have behaved almost identically.
They did not.
Using loss of righting reflex as a behavioural proxy for unconsciousness in mice, the researchers found that the spin-bearing isotopes were roughly one-third less potent than the spin-zero isotopes.
With 0.5% isoflurane added, the spin-zero isotopes required approximately 15–16% xenon, while the spin-bearing isotopes required 22–23%. The calculated values for xenon alone were approximately 70–72% versus 99–105%.
The researchers calculated identical polarizability for all four isotopes, meaning the difference could not readily be explained by their outer electron clouds.
Nuclear Spin Attenuates the Anesthetic Potency of Xenon Isotopes in Mice — Anesthesiology
How could the nucleus matter?
One proposed answer involves radical pairs.
Certain biological reactions briefly create pairs of electrons whose spins are correlated. Their spin states can influence which chemical products are produced. This general mechanism has also been investigated as a possible explanation for animals’ magnetic sense.
A 2021 theoretical study proposed that xenon’s nuclear spin could interact with such an electron pair through hyperfine coupling, slightly changing the reaction’s outcome and therefore changing xenon’s anesthetic potency. The model could reproduce the approximate isotope pattern reported in the mice.
That does not prove this mechanism occurs inside a living brain—but it provides a physically plausible bridge between an atomic nucleus and a whole-animal behavioural state.
Radical pairs may play a role in xenon-induced general anesthesia — Scientific Reports
Turin is now part of a wider research programme proposing direct tests of xenon-isotope effects in model nervous systems, combined with electron-spin measurements. The goal is to determine whether spin changes merely accompany anesthesia or actually participate in causing it.
Testing the Conjecture That Quantum Processes Create Conscious Experience — Entropy
What this does—and does not—mean
This is not proof that consciousness is generated by quantum entanglement, that brains are quantum computers, or that Plato has been hiding inside an NMDA receptor.
The crucial xenon-isotope result currently rests heavily on one mouse study, which used isoflurane alongside xenon and still requires independent replication. The radical-pair mechanism is an intriguing model, not an experimentally demonstrated account of consciousness.
But if the isotope effect survives rigorous replication, the modest conclusion would already be enormous:
Changing the quantum spin of an atomic nucleus—without meaningfully changing the atom’s ordinary chemistry—can change its effect on an entire nervous system.
The connection to Michael Levin’s work is not that bioelectricity and xenon necessarily share one mechanism. It is the deeper methodological point: living systems may depend upon causal layers that disappear when we insist on describing them only as genes, receptors or molecular collisions.
Levin asks how electrical networks allow cells to coordinate toward large-scale anatomical goals. Turin asks whether biological information processing reaches downward into electron transfer and spin-dependent chemistry.
Different floors of the same wonderfully haunted building.
Life would not be violating physics. It might simply be using far more of physics than biology has yet learned to notice.

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u/Visible_Iron_5612 — 22 hours ago

All roads lead to crab..

This video explores carcinization, an evolutionary phenomenon where different crustacean lineages independently evolve a crab-like body plan (1:51-2:28).

Key takeaways include:

• Defining the Crab Plan: The classic crab silhouette, which evolved at least five times, involves a flattened carapace, a reduced abdomen tucked under the body, and specialized legs (2:54-4:28, 14:22-14:50).
• Nature's "Attempt" at Crabs: Many creatures labeled as "crabs"—such as coconut crabs, king crabs, and porcelain crabs—are not true crabs (Brachyura) but evolved similar shapes separately within the Anomura group (1:16-1:50, 4:44-5:13).
• Why the Crab Shape? It acts like a "Swiss Army knife," offering stability on uneven surfaces, the ability to shuffle sideways, and protection against predators who cannot grab a tucked-in tail (13:19-14:48).
• Genetics of Crabs: Carcinization is not about evolving entirely new genes but rather turning existing "master architect" genes (Hox genes) up or down during development to fold the abdomen (16:21-17:44).
• Evolutionary Reversibility: Evolution can also go the other way, known as decarcinization, where some true crabs have re-evolved more elongated bodies, such as frog crabs (12:04-12:28).

The video also highlights extreme examples like the massive coconut crab, which can crack coconuts and even hunt birds, and the Japanese spider crab, which boasts the longest leg span of any living arthropod (0:00-0:49, 10:32-11:15, 13:35-13:46).

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u/Visible_Iron_5612 — 1 day ago
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Scientists from the Nautilus expedition discover a “frog fish” in 1125m (3690ft) depth. Their reaction to it is amazing

u/SerafinZufferey — 5 days ago
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Alignment Is to a Virtual Governor: A Theory of Coordination in Diverse Intelligence

A fascinating new paper from Michael Levin, Léo Pio-Lopez, and Benjamin Lyons exploring how large-scale coordination can emerge without any single component being in charge.
The central idea is the “virtual governor”: an abstract, higher-level control structure created by the relationships and interactions among many individual parts.
In biological systems, cells do not necessarily need a tiny commander telling them what organism to build. Instead, networks of communication, including bioelectric signaling, can collectively instantiate a higher-level goal that constrains and coordinates the behavior of the parts.
What I find especially interesting is the implication that the “thing in control” may not exist as a physical object at all.
It may exist in the relationships.
That opens a much bigger question: perhaps organisms, minds, colonies, and even other decentralized systems achieve coherence because their components become aligned to emergent higher-order structures that are real in their causal effects, even if you cannot point to a single location and say, “there it is.”
A very Levin idea:
the governor may not be another node in the network. It may be the pattern formed between the nodes. 🕸️⚡🧬

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u/Visible_Iron_5612 — 2 days ago
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Mirror Hand Syndrome: A rare congenital condition where a hand develops with complete symmetry and no thumb.

u/FuckingShootMePussy — 5 days ago

“I know Levin’s PhD work on left-right asymmetry in embryogenesis was included in Nature’s 100 milestones of developmental biology, so I’m curious about his thoughts on chirality… especially how microscopic handedness gets translated into large-scale morphology.”

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u/Visible_Iron_5612 — 6 days ago
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A Convergence Model of Bioelectric, Gap Junctional, and Hippo–YAP Signalling in Oral Cancer Stem Cell Maintenance

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u/Adam_133 — 7 days ago

Meet The Greatest Bioelectricity Scientist You’ve Never Heard Of

This video features an in-depth conversation with Min Zhao, a professor at UC Davis, regarding the transformative field of bioelectricity and its fundamental role in biology, wound healing, and regeneration.

Key Takeaways:

• Bioelectricity is Fundamental: While genetics and molecular biology have traditionally dominated scientific focus, Dr. Zhao emphasizes that electrical signaling is an intrinsic property of all living organisms. Every cell, from simple microorganisms to human skin and organs, maintains an electrical potential across its membrane (0:07:20 - 0:10:12).
• Wound Healing Mechanism: Dr. Zhao explains how wounds naturally generate an electrical current. By mapping these fields with a "vibrating probe," his lab discovered that these signals serve as directional cues that orchestrate how cells migrate to heal damaged tissue (0:12:00 - 0:13:58).
• Overriding Genetic Control: One of the most significant findings is that electric fields can effectively "override" genetic instructions. In laboratory experiments, reversing the polarity of an electric field can physically force a cell to turn around and move in the opposite direction, demonstrating that bioelectric cues act as a potent governing mechanism in development (0:15:19 - 0:18:10).
• Intertwined Biology: The conversation explores the idea that bioelectricity, biochemistry, and biomechanics are deeply intertwined. Rather than viewing biology as separate layers, Dr. Zhao suggests that life utilizes these electrical networks to survive, function, and repair itself at every level of organization (0:33:00 - 0:35:57).
• Scientific Perspective on Agency: The discussion touches on the controversial topic of cell intelligence and agency. While acknowledging the provocative work of scientists like Michael Levin regarding "xenobots" and cell problem-solving, Dr. Zhao maintains a more conservative view, favoring compelling empirical evidence before attributing consciousness or agency to non-neuronal systems (1:06:00 - 1:13:40).

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u/Visible_Iron_5612 — 7 days ago