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Mogami

After President T's memo that was put out on shipbuilding we again saw a refernece to expanding USN's purchasing foreign-built ships. Later, on the CAVAS Ships Pod, Brent Sadler dropped that he had heard people throwing around USN purchasing some Mogamis. Last week, Rheinmetall presented the GMF140 for "North American Customers."

Just trying to read between the lines, but is USN signaling that it is likely to field multiple classes of Frigates? HII Patrol Frigate, Mogami, ...etc? If they went with a multi-class strategy, which one(s) would make the most sence to field? Why?

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What if USN had stuck it out? I guesstimate 16-22 would have been in the water by now. Would the most problems be all ironed out? Would it have clogged US shipbuilding capacity? Would it be the wrong ship for the Pacific Challenges? A great foundation to continue fine tuning? Run any way you want with it.

Trying to contextualize this. Could anyone explain what this means for USN and U.S. warship building going forward?

The F-35 program has been a huge boon for European defense. Since the relationship/trust is there why not have the Europeans bankroll the Ferrari F-35 idea that was floated around a while back?

Then both the Europeans, U.S. and Co. could benefit from a fighter that is 80% the 6th Gen capability at 50% the cost. Estimates say it could be ready to go by 2030-2031 if it had its own production line. Total cost estimates to get the new design and production line going is at ~ $32 Billion.

Seems obvious to me. A jet designed to win in the Pacific would obviously steam roll any European threat for decades to come. Future blocks would benefit from all of the American 6th gen tech being ported over.

Thoughts? Any better Ideas?

As the remaining Ticonderoga-Class Cruisers & Ohio-Class boomers retire the Navy is going to be hit with a reduction in capability by ~2000 VLS cells. The shortage will hurt the Navy’s strike capability and the ability to protect Aircraft Carriers From high end incoming missiles.

To me, it seems the natural stop gap measure would be to have a MUSV with MK-70 VLS containers be Burke wing men so they can provide the magazine to absorb the strike & air defense role that the Cruisers had.

Thoughts?

The Japanese obviously have a great frigate on their hands. After landing a big deal with the Aussies, the Kiwis seem primed to follow. It just so happens that this upgraded Frigate has the same 32 VLS cell outline as FF(x).

If the U.S. joined in on the deal then the economies of scale reaped for all four allied partners regarding development, in theater maintenance, domestic manufacturing, and speed of construction could be immense. Additional allied demand brought F-35a prices down from 100 million to an amazing 82.5 million (context: F-15 EX ~110 million). The Mogami and its future iterations would be no different.