u/Wonderful_Long8756

Is there a specific grammatical term for things like almond milk or peanut butter?
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Is there a specific grammatical term for things like almond milk or peanut butter?

I hear a lot of public figures and people online trying to insist that plant-based milks can't be called milks, because they aren't secreted from mammary glands of animals, despite the heavy historical use of "milk" in this context.

According to Etymology Online, "In English, the word "milk" has been used to refer to "milk-like plant juices" since 1200 CE." "Almond milk" as a compound noun appeared in the 14th century, as it was used by the rich as a dairy alternative during fasting periods. Various historical dictionaries have used milk in a plant-based context: Samuel Johnson In his landmark A Dictionary of the English Language (1755) put plant milks as a secondary definition of milk, describing them as "emulsion made by contusion of seeds." Noah Webster's An American Dictionary of the English Language (1828) did the same.

This isn't just a musing, I feel this is quite relevant to global order. Last year, the European Parliament voted to ban plant-based food companies for using terms like "meat" "chicken," or "drumstick" for their products. They almost got to" burgers" and "sausages", but these terms managed to escape censorship. The meat, dairy, and egg industries, and farmers, claim that such labels threaten farmers' livelihoods by blurring the distinction between animal-derived and plant-based products, making customers "confused."

(https://gfieurope.org/blog/burger-and-sausage-are-saved-but-eus-misguided-decision-bans-31-everyday-terms-for-plant-based-food/)))

It's obviously just a tactic to weaken market competitors and the "GrEeN, vEgAn AgEnDa." It's just really concerning that governments are trying to police language in this way...

We already use the terms "coconut milk", or calling a peanut paste "peanut butter", when it isn't a butter, and this, in contrast to "plant milks" or "plant-based drumsticks" is seen as acceptable. Just so that I can correct the internet troglodytes, what's the specific grammatical term for this kind of thing?

u/Wonderful_Long8756 — 1 day ago

How to use Kupindo/ Limundo from UK phone number?

There is a peacoat I found on Kupindo and it's so rare and unusual, I will explode if I don't get it!! I've been thinking about it non-stop for a few months now...

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I tried to make an account but what has been halting me is the phone number verification. I put in my number (+44xxxxxxxxx) and no verification text ever arrives at my phone. I use EE mobile as my provider.

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I Googled what could be wrong and it said that it's something to do with the instability of the Serbian/ Bosnian telecom system, and my mobile provider may be blocking the signal.

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I've heard people on this app use throwaway phone numbers through sites like SMSPool. Would that kind of thing work internationally, though? How can I have two numbers at a time on one phone? I'm not a very tech-oriented person, so please excuse my cluelessness!

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(Also, I wrote to the Kupindo team about registering and they tried to call me several times and it didn't work, which is also worrying. Also, for some reason, they speak Bosnian, according to Google. I'm not sure if this is normal in Serbia or if I'm in the wrong sub Reddit lol)

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u/Wonderful_Long8756 — 26 days ago
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Not sure if this is the right sub for this but I've seen similar posts to mine on here before. Shame there isn't a dedicated "internet rhetoric-study" sub or something...

I've seen a certain kind of tactic in internet arguments online a lot. Person A states something flawed. Person B responds by comparing an aspect of one thing to an aspect of another in an appropriate manner and context, but person A acts like person B believes these two things to be of equivalent severity, deliberately ignoring any nuance.

I spotted this phenomenon in a recent comment section discussion under a vegan post, which is (condensed) as follows:

A: "Eating meat isn't inherently wrong because it's a natural drive."

B: "Something merely being a natural drive doesn't make it ethical. There are plenty of things we do and have done throughout history that are (to a degree at least) natural drives. Rape is one example of this, and of course, that is unethical."

A: "Eeaww why are you comparing rape to eating meat?? Vegans are so extreme! I'm not engaging with this convo anymore - that's just so bizarre!"

Because I don't know what word(s) to put to this deliberate stupidity, I don't know how to counter it when I'm subjected to it myself. Can anyone help?

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u/Wonderful_Long8756 — 2 months ago