u/YoloBrollo80

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Unpopular opinion: seducing/romancing is worthless

And now that I have your attention, what are some other hostile/personal schemes you frequently make use of? I find myself very rarely pursuing schemes other than swaying. I think a big part of it is the low success rates presented to me for murder, which is what I want to do most often. If my player is intrigue focused, I’ll definitely murder more liberally and I’ll abduct characters, but I still rarely seduce/romance. I definitely am not fabricating books or stealing artifacts, etc.

I can see a few instances where seducing is valuable, but it’s often just a risk of becoming a criminal for a potential child that isn’t of your house. One is if a neighboring ruler is very powerful, getting his wife or her pregnant could dilute the succession. The other situation is if you’re a woman, you could seduce someone with good inheritable traits. Otherwise, I only see it as relevant for roleplaying and the memes—which is maybe all it’s supposed to be for.

Idk. What are some of the schemes you find yourself doing most often?

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u/YoloBrollo80 — 23 hours ago

Two pedantic questions for you nerds

I'm a tribal empire in West Africa and I just invaded a clan kingdom. These are castle holdings, so I get nothing if I keep them in my domain, correct? There's no way to revert them to tribal that I can tell. So if I give them to an unlanded family member, will they be worthless to them as well? or will they become feudal vassals in my realm? Will I be able to adjust their contracts as if I was a feudal liege?

(First screenshot depicting the area of my new castle holdings I need to give away)

On a related note, I keep having the problem of giving rulers a kingdom, but they're too weak to defend it against rebellions/claims. Does it actually kind of make sense to give a new vassal a county on the other side of the empire from his kingdom territory? That way if a faction declares war, they need to march their armies across the empire? I suppose that might make sense for wars against tyranny or for independence, but not populist factions.

(Second screenshot depicting this Taghaza duke I don't want to be my direct vassal anymore, and the same area to the southeast where maybe I give a few counties, a duchy, but the Taghaza duke's relevant kingdom title)

u/YoloBrollo80 — 7 days ago

I stopped playing for a while, but just put down my first rebellion. It did not play out as I remembered from a few years ago.

There were three vassals who were looking to install my half-brother. One was a wimpy count who after I controlled his castle and captured him, he just left the war? That was new. I believe I captured all the territory of an another vassal, but she did not leave the war. Maybe because I didn’t capture her in the siege?

After the war was over, I imprisoned the duchess and my king half-brother. I was able to revoke her titles without tyranny, and it would use a title revocation reason, or whatever—this was new to me. Ok, that’s cool. But then I go to revoke the titles of my half-brother, and it’s not justified and I’ll lose 16 favor for being tyrannical. I thought because he rebelled against me, that’s justification to take his shit.

Can someone explain how they changed this game mechanic? It’s definitely my MO to quell rebellions and redistribute titles after a character dies, as it is for many of you.

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u/YoloBrollo80 — 19 days ago