u/anticultman

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Root of david Deception

What is this study they call "the church established by the root of David"? Simply put, it is a study designed to convince you that this single organization has the only correct teaching because it was established by a "second coming" figure or modern-day apostle. History repeats itself: whenever an organization proclaims they are "THE TRUTH," people suffer. We saw this in the Dark Ages, where a single universal church claimed sole authority over scripture, leading to trauma, death, and psychological damage. Today’s organizations do the same, preying on people’s spiritual thirst.

They start by asking, "With so many interpretations, how can we know which church to believe?" But where does the Bible say salvation depends on an organization's correct interpretation? If it did, God would have failed for 2000 years. The Bible actually says that whoever believes in the Father and the Son has life everlasting (John 6:40, 47) and that the Holy Spirit is the one who leads us into all truth (John 16:13), not a corporate entity.True salvation is evidenced by the fruit of the Spirit and a transformed heart (Galatians 5:22-23, Ephesians 1:13). For the WMSCOG, this isn't enough; they want you to work for them like a 9-to-5 job to earn something that was already freely given.

The Reality of the "Sealed Scroll"

​The WMSCOG uses Revelation 5:1-7 to claim that the "sealed scroll" in God’s hand is the Bible itself—spiritually sealed so that no one can understand it until their "Root of David" arrives in the last days. However, John’s symbolism is drawn directly from the Old Testament. To understand the scroll, we must look at the "Source." ​In Ezekiel 2:9-10, we see a scroll written on both sides containing "lamentations, mourning, and woe." This is a Covenant Lawsuit against a rebellious nation. Similarly, Zechariah 5:1-4 describes a flying scroll containing curses against those who break the Law, and its measurements match the porch of Solomon’s Temple (1 Kings 6:3). This means the judgment is proclaimed from the Holy of Holies. This is the "Book of the Law" mentioned in Deuteronomy 31:26, placed beside the Ark as a "testimony against Israel." The WMSCOG tries to link this to blessings in Hosea 3:5, but this prophecy is literally about Jesus when he came to Israel in Israel's last days as a corporate nation. The last days were during the days of the Apostles (Acts 2:16–17) (Hebrews 1:1–2).

But the context of Revelation 5 is a judicial audit. It is the finalized and completed case against apostate Israel for the very sins Jesus accused the religious leaders of being: false swearers and thieves (Matthew 21:13, Matthew 23). On top of this, Jesus himself prophesied that those who rejected him would receive the full cup of stored-up wrath (Matthew 24:34, Mark 13:30, and Luke 21:32), and recompense for every sin committed from Abel to Zechariah would come in the generation of Christ (Matthew 23:32-36). And if you really read your Bible, Jesus uses the same wording of "the generation" to refer to the current one he was living in, as he used for the unbelieving Hebrews that died in the wilderness (Deuteronomy 1:35), which fits with the prophecy of the song of Moses Deuteronomy 32, meaning all covenant curses would fall on the Jesus-rejecting Jews (Leviticus 26 and Deuteronomy 28). And historically, in the book of Revelation as well as the recorded history of Josephus, attest to this fact. The scroll isn't a "hidden Truth of Bible" for the 20th century; because for one, that's what gnostic sects teach. It is the legal document of judgment for the Old Covenant world that was finalized in 70 AD (Hebrews 8:13).

The Timing of Worthiness: Jesus Succeeded 2,000 Years Ago

The WMSCOG claims the scroll stayed sealed until recently. But Daniel 12:4, 9 says the book was to be sealed only until "the time of the end"—the end of the Old Covenant age. Revelation 5:3 notes that no one was initially found worthy, drawing from Isaiah 29:11-12 regarding spiritual blindness.But the Gospel is that a Worthy Representative was found. Note that the words used are past tense; it has already been opened (Revelation 5:5 and 5:9). Also know that in Daniel, Gabriel told daniel to seal up the prophecies of this scroll until the end. And now the angel in John's time is telling him the opposite because the time is at hand, meaning the end (Revelation 22:10). Then tell me, did the angel command John to seal up the prophecies again? If so, please show me. If Jesus wasn't worthy to unseal the scroll until the 20th century, then His death and resurrection were incomplete. But Paul writes in Hebrews 1:1-4 and Hebrews 7:23-25 that Christ’s ministry is superior and final. He entered the Most Holy Place once for all (Hebrews 9:12), not in 1844. He didn't wait 2,000 years to become worthy; He "sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high" because the work was finished then! To suggest He wasn't worthy until the 1900s is to deny the core of the New Testament. And his work failed. This is why Christianity is plagued by fear-mongering hypocrites, because people still look forward to an end-of-the-world apocalypse where Jesus will rapture the good people and send the bad people to to this make believe hell. It's clear people who have this mindset don't read the very book they believe, but just get spoon-fed nonsense to tickle their ears, because they hate life itself. I guess Jesus didn't mean it when he said to be an overcomer; that's literally the first thing Jesus encourages his believers to be in Revelation chapters 2-3 and 1 John 5:4-5, not this overly unhealthy obsession about leaving the body.

Clouds, Glory, and the Kingdom Transfer

​The Bible says Jesus comes with the clouds (Matthew 24:30, Revelation 1:7). In scripture, clouds represent God's presence and judicial glory (Exodus 40:34, Ezekiel 30:3). Jesus told His disciples He would return to the Father shortly after His crucifixion (John 16:28), and in Acts 1:9-11, He was taken up into a cloud—entering the glory of the Father. ​This fulfills Daniel 7:13-14, where the Son of Man comes to the Ancient of Days to receive a kingdom. The WMSCOG admits this happened in the first century. If so, then Daniel 7:26-27 must also be fulfilled: the judgment sat, and the kingdom was given to the saints (the first-century remnant). This is the same vision that John is seeing the same vision in Revelation 5 which happens right after.jesus is taken into the fathets presence in the glory cloud.; only now, in John's time, it would be fulfilled. Jesus promised that the kingdom would be taken from the apostate leaders and given to a people producing its fruit (Matthew 21:43), the chosen remnant of the first century. When jesus said ciaphas would see him coming on the clouds on heaven he meant he would come in the glory of his father... that was made manifest when he made his presense known in heaven through his diciples miracles , preaching, the spirit of truth convicting/judging the christ rejecting Jews/isrealites and offering salvation to those who listened. ill expound on this in a separate post

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The Eternal Nature of the New Covenant

Now, the problem I must ask the WMSCOG: if the new covenant is eternal, how could there be a time when it was abolished? Christ said his kingdom would never be destroyed nor would the gates of hell overcome it(Matthew 16 : 18). Or are you going to tell me to my face that Christ's work of salvation was so fragile and so easy to be destroyed that a bunch of men made a couple of disagreements and un did what God did? Can someone with actual sense believe that?But of course, it is when you have already proven it's possible and it was God's plan to pause the covenant for 1600 years until this Korean individual "restored" the truth.its rediculous to think God abolished his new enternal covenant in 325 AD because of men... the Bible is clear he came once and for all for sin (Hebrews 9:26-28 and 10:10-14). IF he has to come again, it means his sacrifice was not sufficient at his first coming, which means you must throw half the New and Old Testament out the window, because Christ was deemed the perfect sacrifice to redeem the people of Israel and ultimately reconcile the entire world through his blood (Colossians 1:20). For him to come again would negate the finished work (John 19:30).The Old Covenant Passover was a constant revelation for the people for when the true Passover Lamb came into the world they would be able to recognize him(John 1:29, 1 Corinthians 15:5-7).This is why they are called rehearsals... they are kept in earnest until the true fulfillment, the substance, who is christ comes (Colossians 2:17).

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The Council of Nicaea's Purpose and Controversy

Now, it's a misunderstanding of the actual main controversy at Nicaea.It was called to settle the arian controversy on Christology . Constantine's only agenda was to stop the constant conflict about doctrine and unify the church to restore unity in rome after he became emperor..). Secondly, if you really read up on the controversy, it was the celebration of Easter, the resurrection, that was being decided and solidified. Early Eastern Christians, particularly in Asia Minor, Syria, and Mesopotamia, kept the celebration of the Resurrection (Pascha) on the 14th of Nisan—the same date as the Jewish Passover—primarily because they believed it was an apostolic tradition handed down by St. John and St. Philip. Becuase jesus broke bread with his diciples on that day and they did the same thing when he ressurected. They celebrated the resurrection on the Jewish date of the Passover, which is the opposite of what the WMSCOG teaches you about the history.The Eastern Church was already keeping the resurrection on Nisan 14.It was the constantine that decided to give the resurrection a set day instead of it changing every year according to the Jewish holiday becuase the early church fathers of the west were very against keeping of Jewish holidays/customs becuase they wanted to distinguish themselves from Jewish traditions So what they teach you about history is a lie.Now this brings us to this so-called sign of David.

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Misinterpretation of the Davidic Promise

There are a number of studies where they will continually nail into your head that the sign of David or promise to David is the new covenant , going to Isaiah 55:3, and connecting it to Hebrews 13:20.

The problem with this is they convince you that the David that's being referred to here is a prophetic David and it's referring to Christ who is the prophetical David that comes with this everlasting/eternal covenant, and strip these verses of their context.But it's not true; Isaiah is actually referring to a figure of the Old Testament.

If the faithful promise to David was the new covenant, and only David should have received it, then by that logic, shouldn't there be an instance where David himself received this sign during his life? But wait, according to Jeremiah 31:1-3, the new covenant is supposed to come later, in the time of Jesus.If David already received this everlasting covenant, then what would be the need for Isaiah, Amos, and Jeremiah to prophesy a restoration through a new covenant if it already existed in the Old Testament?Well, we must understand that the covenant God made with David has nothing to do with Passover, but everything to do with the reign of his lineage. This is what is called the Davidic Covenant (2 Samuel 7:11-16).God promised David that He would establish a seed that would sit on his throne forever, as long as they had complete obedience to God.Now, understand this: none of the kings following David's rule ever 100% fulfilled this condition until Jesus fulfilled it. This was quoted and confirmed by Paul (Acts 13:34) that Jesus now sits and fulfills that promised everlasting covenant. Because Jesus is undying, and His kingdom is established forever (Daniel 2:44, 7:14), and now since Jesus sits on the throne of David, He now rules on God's throne as the Messiah, according to 1 Chronicles 29:23. The sign was not Passover.The promised sign of David was that one of his descendants would be an immortal heir, sitting on his throne forever.Isaiah 55:3 promises that to all: that they too will become a part of this unending kingdom, filled with peace, truth, etc.by coming to full belief and faith in christ.

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