u/aqua410

For the HES students and hopefuls still battling the "is HES the real Harvard?" brigade...

Listen up, because I'm only going to preach this sermon one time and one time only.

Every other week, there is some thread asking the difference between HES and Harvard, touting the (imagined) differences between HES' rigor compared to "the real Harvard," or a thread that starts with a genuine question but somehow devolves into condescension towards students of HES vs. Harvard's 11 other schools and other T15 universities. It's clockwork at this point.

I implore you (same goes for me): stop entertaining the naysayers. For what it's worth, the argument rarely comes from those who have been accepted to any of Harvard's schools (they tend to know better), but usually from some miserable dope who was rejected by Harvard, flunked out, or is just too afraid of failing to apply.

Hear me and hear me good: HES is about as real Harvard as Harvard can get. We are the gladiators of Harvard's student body. We're not "paper admits." We didn't get offered admission on the blind assumption that we could do the work to keep up (and excel) because we're legacy, or our parents donated a huge check, or due to outdated standardized test scores, subjective HS report cards, and a couple of mock interviews.

We had to DO THE WORK FIRST. So put your emerging imposter syndrome in the trash; let the admits of the other schools keep that insecurity for themselves. You've already proved yourself capable by a mile. You were accepted into HES because you demonstrated you could handle the intellectual rigor and the applied theory in multiple courses before you even glimpsed an acceptance letter. Admissions staff never had to hope you had what it takes to succeed at Harvard--they hazed you and tested you in ridiculously challenging and writing-intensive courses before they even let you through the gates. They already knew you had everything it takes. You were never one of the "gambles" of Harvard's incoming class.

You are the equivalent of the walk-on athlete who didn't qualify for the draft, but makes even the top picks of the draft class pale in comparison. You are Rodman, Pippen, and Starks--playing on the same team as Bronny, Jr. and the Curry bros. You're likely not a product of parents who spent tens of thousands of dollars sending you to Ivy League summer programs, expensive prep camps, college admission "coaches" and private tutors. No; you're the walking definition of merit-based admission.

Your dad drove a taxi, your mom worked at the DMV, and the only prep camp you've ever attended was at the local YMCA. But you're here...in the same halls walked by some of the most brilliant minds that have ever lived...based solely on pure, raw talent, grit, and self-motivation. And dammit, that's a hell of an achievement.

Most of Harvard's student body (and their rejected applicants) have barely sniffed fresh air yet. They're mostly under 25 and have the ability to live on campus for years with no responsibilities but to study in peace. But not you.

You have a full-time job that takes 60+ hours of your week, a mortgage (or two), 2.4 kids, a dog, a spouse, and an ever-increasing tax bill every April. You're on travel for your job, stationed in Singapore, and logging in every week at 2 AM for a synchronous class that starts at 2 PM in Cambridge, then heading to your office at 6 AM for the next 8-10 hours. PURE GRIT.

There aren't any introductory catch-up classes for HES admits--either you have what it takes, or you don't. HES doesn't expend effort acclimating us to the rigor of the program with remedial "bridge" courses to make sure our prior schools taught us what we needed to know before we got to Harvard; either you know it, or you won't get admitted. And most of all--HES damn sure is not going to curve grades for us. If you want that A, you're going to sweat bucketloads for it.

There aren't any on-campus study groups to support you. You can't lean over and peer over a classmate's shoulder. And you certainly will not have your hand held by the faculty. If you can't grasp the material, you have 2-6 days to figure out how to make it make sense before you're expected to demonstrate your knowledge. RAW TALENT.

Most traditional students are in classes with other young adults who also live on campus and haven't even started their professional lives. That's why they need to learn theory. You've been there, done that, and got the taxable bonus already. You're beyond "theory." In the classes I've taken so far, I've had classmates who were hedge fund managers, biopharma execs, uber-successful tech VCs, NATO staffers, a senior chairman of the DNC, a policy analyst for the UN, and a former strategic advisor to the NSC. And that's just in the last semester. It's honestly a networking heaven that the rest of Harvard would kill to have access to. Ponder on that gift for a sec.

All that to say, despite whatever odd and somewhat illogical designation Harvard puts on HES' degrees (and the weird nomenclature is absolutely an issue by Harvard's own hand that they'll need to address sooner than later), don't doubt yourself and don't let a-holes on the internet doubt you either. The average HES student is 34+ years of age. Who gives a f**k what some random hiring manager on here says about how they'd rate your application compared to other traditional Harvard grads? You're not new to the professional world. You've been in this race for 10+ years. Shit, you are the hiring manager at your Fortune 100 company. And you are the exact type of peer most traditional students are dying to hobnob with for their next opportunity.

Stop letting insecure rejects (for the most part) challenge your ability when you're attempting one of the most rigorous universities in the world during the most chaotic time of your life. You're such a f**king gladiator that you volunteered to go to Harvard on Hard Mode while the onlookers are cruising in Practice.

If the other Harvard schools (or any of the other Ivy & Ivy-plus schools) had any insight, they'd make the "Prove You Can Handle It" route of admission the standard, not the exception. They'd likely admit fewer drop-outs, fail-outs, and unprepared disappointments that way. And perhaps, they could even do away with those "bridge" classes they begrudgingly require of the traditional incoming students now.

TL; DR: Yes, HES is the real f**king Harvard, and you'll only be admitted if you prove beyond a single doubt that you have what it takes to thrive here. There's no shortcut to demonstrating capability at HES. It's the other schools' admissions processes that leave room for doubt.

Stand on that.

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