u/betfolyo

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Most bettors focus on wins and losses. I think CLV is more interesting.

The more I read about closing line value, the more it feels like one of the few metrics that actually says something meaningful about long-term betting performance.

Example:

- You bet a team at +120
- Market closes at +105

Even if the bet loses, you still beat the market price.

Over a large sample, that seems more important than whether a single bet won or lost.

What I find interesting is that CLV can reveal patterns like:

- whether early bets outperform late bets
- whether certain sportsbooks consistently offer softer lines
- whether “high confidence” bets actually beat the market
- whether positive CLV really correlates with long-term ROI

At the same time, I don’t think CLV is some magic stat either. You can have positive CLV and still lose money for long stretches because of variance.

Curious how people here think about it:

- Do you actively track CLV?
- Does it matter for recreational bettors?
- What’s considered “good” CLV over a season?

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u/betfolyo — 4 days ago