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How Revisiting The Odyssey Has Changed Through History

How Revisiting The Odyssey Has Changed Through History

Found this video interesting. There has never been one way to tell this story throughout history. Among other things, I also leaned that while the original text is from 800 BCE, the events depicted in the story are from 1100-1200 BCE. So the story we have written down by Homer and endlessly translated is already 300-400 years after it has already been told through oral history and morphed and changed. From what I understand, most historians and experts are just looking for the essence of the story to be preserved, but artistic liberties are not an issue. I’m very interested in Christopher Nolan’s take on this story.

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u/bgorion17 — 14 hours ago

As I see more promotional materials being released, I am more and more excited for The Odyssey!

Just wanted to share my excitement for this film. Despite all the drama out there about minor characters in The Odyssey that will barely have 5-10 mins of screen time, it does not change the fact that this will be a film to experience in the big screen from a visionary directory with a great track record. I am eagerly awaiting for tickets to go on sale to book them, hopefully it will open soon.

If you are equally as pumped for this, share your excitement in the comments.

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u/bgorion17 — 1 day ago

Grifters vs. The Odyssey: Why They Want Christopher Nolan to Fail

Very interesting video. I learned something more about the text myself (about Achilles) that I didn’t know prior to this. His take is a bit different. Worth a watch, check it out.

Still very excited for this film! Less than two months to go!

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u/bgorion17 — 3 days ago

If you actually care about what the text says about Helen... here is a great video

I know many of us (majority) including myself do not care about Lupita's casting of Helen. But I was still curious, what does the original text actually say? I found a video explaining it very well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCQgppsWgzE

For all the ones bothered by the Helen casting, ignore this video, because no amount of textual evidence will change your mind. We all know the real reason behind your trolling.

TL;DR - Homer originally never describes her skin color or any physical attribute. The texts only describe the IMPACT of her beauty. Helen can be molded to look like anyone with the eye of the beholder, hence many translators described her centuries later with what they believed is beauty in their eyes.

u/bgorion17 — 3 days ago

YouTube is filled with videos pre-judging a film they haven’t seen. More than usual.

I guess it’s the cool this to do now and jump on the hate bandwagon. Video titles are clickbait and ragebait, pre-judging a film as bad, horrible, worst ever and it’s not even out yet. Sure, most films have some videos like this, but the sheer volume of videos for The Odyssey is staggering.

Filmmakers get to make what they want to make with their artistic vision. They are not trying to make your vision of what it should look like or be. You are welcome to see it or not, and like it or not. At a bare minimum, drawing broad conclusions of the entire film should be reserved for after watching the film, not from a 2 min trailer.

There are probably way more people still excited to see this than not. The internet tends to amplify negativity.

I for one remain excited and trying to find ways to tune out the stupid culture wars.

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u/bgorion17 — 7 days ago

Will The Odyssey prologue be in the actual film, or is it supposed to be a separate companying piece?

I have not watched any of the prologues in the past either, and do not know if it's part of the actual film or to be consumed as a separate accompanying piece. I've heard it is the Trojan Horse siege sequence, and I'd love to see it in the film. Have a heard a lot of good things about it. And historically, have they released the prologues on YouTube prior to the film's release?

Edit - *accompanying. Cannot edit the subject line.

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u/bgorion17 — 7 days ago

Re-discovered the podcast after a hiatus from cinema due to another hobby the last few years. It is my understanding that this community has a complicated relationship with Nolan. Now on to The Odyssey.

I for one by default assumed this version of The Odyssey would be a dark, gritty, and a more don to earth realistic take on it. That was my default expectation from when Nolan announced this. The trailer looks fine, in line with my expectations, but clearly there is a massive mis-match of expectations on the internet (a vocal minority perhaps? I don't know). I didn't expect a vibrant color palette to begin with.

I find the discussion about the "American accent" a bit silly, like as if a British accent is somehow more correct for this film. As an audience we have been conditioned to feel that British accents are the “correct” accent in fantasy, mythology, medieval, and ancient stories from past Hollywood films and TV shows.

I do not know the story of The Odyssey in detail, but the more I looked into it, it is abundantly clear that it is a fictional story (except a few details, like a war actually happened). So this is not a "historical" film, it is a fictional one filled with mythology.

Now the elephant in the room, the use of "dad." Just a brief google search revealed that the ancient greeks had multiple words for paternity, a lot of which sound closer to dad and daddy than anything else. Again, just as previously stated, we are conditioned to hear "father" as somehow the correct word to be used due to other fantasy, mythology, medieval, and ancient stories from past Hollywood films and TV shows. Father is just more formal, nothing more. Also, all the upheaval on a couple of words in a 2 minute trailer for what will be close to a 3 hour film?

I hope the film is good, but so far it is in line with what I expected. Either way, I am glad the trailer is re-setting expectations for many.

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u/bgorion17 — 15 days ago
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I for one by default assumed this version of The Odyssey would be a dark, gritty, and a more realistic take on it. That was my default expectation from when Nolan announced this. The trailer looks fine, in line with my expectations, but clearly there is a massive mis-match of expectations on the internet (a vocal minority perhaps? I don't know). I didn't expect a vibrant color palette.

Let's get one thing out of the way, I find the discussion about the "American accent" a bit silly, like as if a British accent is somehow more correct for this film. As an audience we have been conditioned to feel that British accents are the correct accent in fantasy, mythology, medieval, and ancient stories from past Hollywood films and TV shows.

I do not know the story of The Odyssey in detail, but the more I looked into it, it is vastly clear that is is fictional (except that a way happened and a few other details). So this is not a "historical" film, it is a fictional one filled with mythology.

Now the elephant in the room, the use of "dad." Just a brief google search revealed that the ancient greeks had multiple words for paternity, a lot of which sound closer like dad and daddy. Again, just as previously stated, we are conditioned to hear "father" as somehow the correct word to be used due to other fantasy, mythology, medieval, and ancient stories from past Hollywood films and TV shows. Father is just more formal, nothing more. Also, all the upheaval on a couple of words in a 2 minute trailer for what will be close to a 3 hour film?

I hope the film is good, but so far it is in line with what I expected. Either way, I am glad the trailer is re-setting expectations for many.

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u/bgorion17 — 15 days ago

I think I’m finally happy with my ratings scale and its definitions between the two attached images. I’ve been told my ratings are usually on the harsher side for various reasons (my highest number of ratings is a 3/5 followed by a 3.5/5). Ratings are subjective, and I tend to avoid the “masterpiece” terminology for 10/10 as that tends to imply perfection through objective standards.

I understand many don’t do re-watches do various reasons. But for me, at the end of the day, I ask myself will I want to watch it again? Will I want to introduce it to other people? The second screenshot differentiates a bit more with descriptions than just if “I’ll pick it again” to re-watch.

u/bgorion17 — 24 days ago