Is ZIC-pHILIC (5 micron) 50mm x 2.1mm better for metabolomics than ZIC-HILIC (3.5 micron) 100mm x 2.1mm

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As title. I am in a situation where I have to choose one of these two for procurement without option of trail runs. Hence I need expert opinion.

What would be better got global untargeted metabolomics (Ultimate 3000 + Exploris 120 setup)?

I am a metabolomics noob. Please guide me. Both are 100 Angstrom.

I would be using it to do C13 tracer based work on mmmalian cells (after I gain expertise in basics, of course)

I also have option for ZIC-pHILIC (5 micron) 100mm x 4.6 mm

So my options are

ZIC-pHILIC (5 micron) 100mm x 4.6 mm

ZIC-pHILIC (5 micron) 50mm x 2.1 mm

ZIC-HILIC (3.5 micron) 100mm x 2.1 mm

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u/bluemooninvestor — 2 days ago

Is ZIC-pHILIC (5 micron) 50mm x 2.1mm better for metabolomics than ZIC-HILIC (3.5 micron) 100mm x 2.1mm

As title. I am in a situation where I have to choose one of these two for procurement without option of trail runs. Hence I need expert opinion.

What would be better got global untargeted metabolomics (Ultimate 3000 + Exploris 120 setup)?

I am a metabolomics noob. Please guide me. Both are 100 Angstrom.

I would be using it to do C13 tracer based work on mmmalian cells (after I gain expertise in basics, of course)

I also have option for ZIC-pHILIC (5 micron) 100mm x 4.6 mm

So my options are

ZIC-pHILIC (5 micron) 100mm x 4.6 mm

ZIC-pHILIC (5 micron) 50mm x 2.1 mm

ZIC-HILIC (3.5 micron) 100mm x 2.1 mm

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u/bluemooninvestor — 2 days ago

Is there an open-search equivalent for crosslinking-MS?

Basically I am treating my cells with a drug, which I expect to crosslink certain target proteins. However, it's not a very stable drug so it's side chains and all might degrade, leading to difference in expected and actual mass in the crosslink. Basically even if I expect the crosslinker to be 300 Da, it might even be 260Da, so I am in the dark.

Is there any way to do open-search (Fragpipe like) for crosslinked peptides. I can constrain it with the knowledge that crosslinks will happen between cysteine residues.

Thanks

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u/bluemooninvestor — 10 days ago

Need advice of C18 gradient

Dear all,

I am using the attached gradient for my experiment, which I obtained from a paper for lipidomics.

However, in my experiment I am also expecting some semi-polar metabolites along with lipids (main target of my work). I need suggestion on how I can extend the initial gradient to accommodate detection of semi-polar metabolites without hampering the lipid separation. Basically, can I extend the 15-30-48% part without affecting downstream lipid resolution. I can do a 30 min method total.

Also, can I substitute the ammonium formate for ammonium acetate, but keep the formic acid unchanged.

A = acn h20 60:40 with 10mM ammonium formate 0.1% formic acid

B = ipa:acn 90:10 with 10mM ammonium formate 0.1% formic acid

0 min 15%

2 min 30%

2.5 min 48%

11 min 82%

11.5 min 99%

12 min 15 %

15 min 15%

I would do trial and error, but don't have that scope, hence asking for help.

u/bluemooninvestor — 1 month ago
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Electron microscopy experts: seeking help.

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So these are cell line images acquired in TEM. Adherent lung cancer cell line.

Sequence : Control, Treated, Treated, Treated

I have no idea what to look for except loss of mitochondrial cristae. Can someone please shed some light about what changes we are seeing in the Treated group (last 3 images) vs control (first)?

Are those black round things in image 3 lysosome? Is there loss of cytoplasmic density?

These are acquired 1h after treatment and the cells usually round up and die within 6-8h.

u/bluemooninvestor — 2 months ago

Looking for a general all-purpose lipid extraction protocol for broad coverage in LC-MS/MS

Hello everyone,

I am trying to get started in lipidomics. I have done some proteomics but totally new in lipidomics.

Can someone suggest a general all-purpose lipid extraction protocol for broad coverage in LC-MS/MS. I don't have any specific lipid type in mind. Want to do untargeted data aquision after labelling with some isotope labeled Glucose. A broad coverage protocol would be great.

I have come across the Folch method, MTBE based protocols and many others, but there are so many variants.

Just wanted to start with a solid proven method with decent coverage. Any suggestions please.

Oh yes. I am working on adherent cancer cell line grown on plates.

u/bluemooninvestor — 3 months ago

BEH Amide vs BEH HILIC for C13 Glucose based Metabolomics

Hi everyone,

I am doing C13 Glucose based Metabolomics in mammalian cell line samples. I am doing the extraction and all and sending samples for acquisition. I have option to outsource samples to two vendors:

Vendor A has BEH Amide column but charges twice as Vendor B who has BEH HILIC column. Rest equipment is similar.

I know BEH amide is better but is it worth spending twice for BEH amide column over BEH HILIC? How much is the quality difference?

Want to use the data for flux analysis. Untargeted data acquisition.

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u/bluemooninvestor — 3 months ago
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Hello everyone,

I have been using Pierce Desalting Spin columns for peptide cleanup, and it required 300 uL of 50% ACN to elute.

Now, I have to use the Pierce C18 columns. Despite both of them being small spin columns, the C18 column protocol says that only 20 uL of 70% ACN should be used for elution.

My question is, isn't 20 uL a very small volume? Why is there such a huge difference in elution volume between the two spin columns (Desalting v C18 one)? Lastly, is there any general understanding in the proteomics community to use a larger elution volume with the Pierce C18 spin columns.

The protocol also says one may use 70% ACN with 0.1% TFA, but no idea why that is not the standard elution solution for this setup.

I understand that most hardcore proteomics labs would probably not be using Pierce C18 spin columns, but this is what I am using as a part-time proteomics guy. I don't have any other C18 setup, and I will send the cleaned-samples to a mass-spec facility.

And advice on the Pierce C18 spin columns is greatly appreciated.

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u/bluemooninvestor — 4 months ago
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Hello everyone,

When you are doing western blot for 10-15 proteins and showing common loading control (actin) for these 10-15 proteins, how are you doing it?

Of course you are cutting the blot but are you stripping and reprobing it too? Or are you just stripping and reprobing it 10-15 times without cutting it? I have read that stripping makes the quanitation less accurate.

Or are you just showing loading control in a different blot and proteins are not necessarily from the same blot (that would be wrong I guess?)

I can't fathom how to show 15 proteins with one loading control. What am I missing? I am doing regular gels, not precast gradient ones.

Edit: If one is using multiple gels, then showing loading control fror one of the blots isn't ideal, is it? But it that how people do it?

Examples :

Extended figure 7 of this nature paper

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34707288/

Fig 6 Science paper

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37917749/

u/bluemooninvestor — 4 months ago

Recently I have run into Lip-ms, and there are quite a few high impact papers describing the technique. But there are really few papers who have actually used it for doing science.

I think it is the same for several other techniques like proximity-labelling MS, certain advanced variants of thermal proteome profiling etc.

Why do you think it is like this? If these techniques are so great, why aren't they being used for actual science on a much greater scale? Or is my assumption wrong?

Excited to listen to your views.

For perspective, I am a cancer biologist trying to do omics.

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u/bluemooninvestor — 4 months ago

I have submitted a paper to JPR for the first time. It has been three weeks and the status is still "Editorial Review".

Does the manuscript status change to Peer Review or something like that when it's under actual review? Or does it mean it's still with the editor only?

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u/bluemooninvestor — 4 months ago