u/cowboy3gunisfun

Finally got the range. I'm very impressed with the update and it's certainly what I needed to make the TP9 worth keeping. I don't have a gauge but it feels very similar to a stock Glock trigger (aprx 4.5lbs) and will hopefully break in and improve like a Glock.

Installation was pretty simple with some minor issues I spoke about in my last post. Put 300 rounds of 124gr Federal through it today. (Would've done more but it was hot and sticky and I had a BBQ to run) Off the bench, slow fire, 25yds, it held pretty good with about a 4" spread. Much better than the 10" spread I was getting with the stock trigger.

On the trigger itself. I've got a few gripes. I'm not a fan of the way the new sear group is held in place with the two screws coming in from both sides of the frame and attaching to the trigger grip itself. In my older model (circa 2013) the screws needed to be left about 2 turns out, or they would pull the trigger group up off the bottom of the plastic frame where it would catch on the bolt and prevent it feel cycling. One other weird issue, I can't seem to fix despite several attempts making adjustments. If I pull the trigger past the break all the way into the frame, the trigger will not reset under fire or during dry fire. There's a good bit of "squish/takeup" in the pull up to the wall, but the break is clean. The reset is slightly longer than I would like, but a vast improvement over the factory, so no real issue there and I don't think either issue is really fixable given the design of the trigger. While the metal of the trigger shoe and trigger bar isn't "raw" it has a very minimal coating that I don't find very appropriate given the cost, and plan to keep well oiled to prevent wear and rust. My $200 Geissele triggers have a much nicer finish.

Overall, I'm extremely happy with the improved performance, and very excited to actually enjoy shooting this gun for a change. Since the trigger was only manufactured in the last few years, I'm not really surprised by the issues that cropped up for me in my older platform. None of which are deal breakers.

I just hope that Gigliotti makes a few "quality of life" improvements in the future. This trigger was not easy to develop, and I'm sure the cost reflects that, but for that cost, I expected a little better final product.

Got the new GRW trigger installed. Pretty happy with it so far, won't be able to get to the range until Thursday so full review will need to wait. Install went easy, thanks GRW for the full color picture instructions.

Noticed during testing (before I fully assembled it) that the trigger would "hitch" slightly when pulled. Kind of a hesitation before releasing after hitting the wall. But it released and reset, so I reassembled. I figured it would work itself out after a few dozen dry fires.

After assembly I tried to test fire, but the bolt would get stuck back when I pulled the charging handle. As if it was doing the last round bolt hold open, despite not having a magazine inserted. "Lightly" tapping on the back of the receiver caused it to slide back into battery.

Disassembled. I adjusted the two retaining screws used to hold the new trigger group until I got rid of the "hitch" and reassembled. Tested and it performed without issue. I did have to leave the screws slightly out. Hopefully the loctite and tiny retention screws hold up to firing.

Trigger pull is certainly reduced substantially, I dont have a gauge, but I would compare it to a stock Glock trigger. Reset was a bit longer than expected, but far better than the OEM trigger. Only other "concern" is that the trigger wiggles quite a bit both side to side and slightly downward. Not sure if that is an issue without shooting it, but I thought it was odd.

edit another odd issue. Discovered that the trigger reset will not function if I pull the trigger fully to the rear and hold it there while running the bolt. If I pull the trigger until it breaks and stop pulling, then run the bolt, it resets just fine.

Got a heads up that the Gigliotti trigger is back in stock. Bought one immediately. (These are generally OOS in minutes) For those who've bought one, is it worth it? I've put a good amount of money in this gun over the years and I'm still not really happy with it. Will this do the trick?

Which gun is so iconic that if shown to anyone (even someone with zero firearm experience) they would be able to name it? I submit that it is the AK47.

I strongly considered the AR15, but so many politicians have shown pictures of something they called and AR15 that was definitely not.

I was disassembling my TP9 and dropped it on the ground, the barrel assembly is now locked on in this position and I can't seem to get it off now. I don't want to force it, but it seems very stuck.

Finally got my TP9 suppressor, got home and immediately realized it won't work on my TP9. What options do I have?

Thought this would be worth sharing for those who might have the same issue. Back on Feb 5th, I did my first (well actually first 3) form 4s using the new electronic system. Bought a SiCo Sycthe TI, Rugged 45 Obsidian, and a B&T TP9 can. I used the in shop Silencer shop kiosk. The process was nice, simple, fast & cheap ($25).

As someone who bought all their previous cans prior to 2018, I was hopeful and excited about the possibilities of this new setup compared to the "old days." Especially being on this sub and seeing folks, even that early in the year of no more $200 tax, getting sub 2 week approvals.

Fast forward to this weekend still no approval email from either the ATF or contact from my FFL. A solid citizen by the name of u/IndividualResist2473 let me know that the info I found online stating that you needed 90 days to pass before connecting with the ATF about your status was actually only 60 days. I sent in my email yesterday (a Sunday at 10am).

Even though it was a Sunday, I heard back from them by 7:13pm, saying that my forms had been approved on 2/12, and that I needed to reach out to my FFL.

Called up my FFL as soon as they opened this morning and was told initially that they had no record on their system of an approval email. (Not a pleasing moment) The fellow then checked his email. Said he had the email in his inbox from the ATF, and that it was received at 7:15pm last night (Sunday), and that the date of approval on the form was 2/12. I'm guessing (based on the exact time mentioned by my FFL, which I hadn't mentioned to him at that point) my email to the ATF IPB caused a realization that the "approved" email was never sent to my FFL. So, they sent them the email at the same time they sent it to me and then blamed it on my FFL.

TLDR: The ATF screwed me out of 2 months of time with my cans.