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How worried should we be about the Ebola "emergency"?

How worried should we be about the Ebola "emergency"?

The World Health Organization has declared an Ebola outbreak in the Democratic Republic of Congo to be a "public health emergency of international concern". Officials say at least 91 people have died in the central African country, and there are more than 350 suspected cases. The current outbreak of Ebola is caused by the Bundibugyo virus, for which there are no approved drugs or vaccines.

We ask the BBC's health and science correspondent James Gallager how worried the world should be about the spread of Ebola.

The WHO chief Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus has said there are "significant uncertainties" about the scale of the outbreak. At least one person has died of Ebola in Uganda - the DRC's neighbour to the northeast. Another neighbour, Rwanda, has increased screening at the border. And at least six Americans who were exposed to the Ebola virus in the DRC may be taken to a US military base in Germany for treatment.

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u/cybersphere9 — 3 days ago

California officials warn against eating foraged mushrooms after cluster of poisonings

Three poisoned by mushrooms foraged in California wine country amid ‘unprecedented’ outbreak

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u/cybersphere9 — 6 days ago
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CDC has made the right changes to contain the outbreak for U.S.

The CDC is having people isolating in their homes wear a respirator if they are near others in the house. Also and most importantly they say a health department worker will come to the house twice a day in person to check on them. This is crucial and actually allows the initial rise in temperature which is believed to be the most contagious time to be caught before household members are exposed. This is a huge change from the scouts honor of taking one's own temperature and not wearing a respirator when out of the room.

https://www.cdc.gov/hantavirus/php/emergency-guidance/index.html#:~:text=Coordinate%20any%20urgent%20or%20necessary,home%20and%20away%20from%20others

General precautions

Health departments should advise all individuals with high-risk exposure to modify their activities during the monitoring period to protect their household members and communities as follows:

  • Practice good hand hygiene
  • Ensure good ventilation
  • Wear a respirator or well-fitting mask that covers the mouth and nose, if indoors with others
  • Maintain distance
    • Avoid kissing, hugging, or other intimate contact
    • Avoid sharing a bedroom with anyone
  • Avoid exposing others to bodily fluids
    • Avoid sharing items that may be contaminated (e.g., toothbrushes, cigarettes/vapes/hookah, or unwashed towels, bedding, or clothing, etc.)
    • Avoid sharing food out of the same plate or bowl, eating from the same utensil, or sharing beverages
  • Delay nonessential medical or dental appointments
    • Coordinate any urgent or necessary care with the health department in advance and notify the healthcare facility

Monitoring

  • Monitoring by the health department should occur twice daily, in person
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u/cccalliope — 5 days ago

What to know about new Ebola outbreak that has killed 65 people in Congo

What to know about new Ebola outbreak that has killed 65 people in Congo

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u/cybersphere9 — 6 days ago

US officials note a handful of new avian flu outbreaks at poultry facilities

US officials note a handful of new avian flu outbreaks at poultry facilities

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u/cybersphere9 — 6 days ago

Alpha-gal syndrome from Lone Star tick bites "an emerging public health concern in Massachusetts"

Alpha-gal syndrome, the tick-borne illness that causes people to develop a serious allergy to meat and dairy

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u/cybersphere9 — 6 days ago

Three more people sick in California amid ‘unprecedented outbreak’ due to toxic mushrooms

Three more people sick in California amid ‘unprecedented outbreak’ due to toxic mushrooms

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u/cybersphere9 — 6 days ago

Suspected hantavirus case in Ontario County involves Geneva HS student, district says

Suspected hantavirus case in Ontario County involves Geneva HS student

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u/cybersphere9 — 6 days ago

Will Hantavirus spread? Critical dates

In outbreak investigations, health officials often describe infections in “generations”:

  • First-generation cases are the original infected individuals.
  • Second-generation cases are people infected directly by the first group.
  • Third-generation cases are people infected by the second group, meaning the virus has moved beyond the original cluster into the wider community.

At the moment, health authorities are closely watching for possible third-generation hantavirus cases linked to the cruise ship outbreak.

Key Dates in the Timeline

April 24
This is considered the most important starting date in the outbreak timeline. Twenty-nine passengers left the cruise ship before the hantavirus risk was fully understood. Because these passengers traveled internationally, officials began monitoring for possible infections from this point onward.

May 12
As of this date, all confirmed cases were still connected directly to the ship. No confirmed wider community transmission had been identified.

May 15 to Late May
This period is considered the earliest likely window for new symptomatic cases to appear among passengers who left the ship earlier, or among people they may have infected before showing symptoms themselves.

If unrelated people begin developing symptoms during this period, it could indicate that the virus spread before infected passengers became visibly ill.

May 19
Public health experts identified this as an important checkpoint date. By around this time:

  • Additional passengers infected on the ship would likely begin showing symptoms.
  • The earliest potential third-generation cases could also start appearing.

A significant rise in cases around this date would suggest the virus spreads more easily between humans than initially hoped.

June 5
This is considered a more likely timeframe for third-generation cases if symptomatic passengers infected household members or close contacts after leaving the ship.

For example:

  1. A passenger becomes sick.
  2. They infect a family member or partner.
  3. That person develops symptoms several weeks later.

End of June
Officials believe the end of June is the point at which they could confidently say the outbreak has likely ended, assuming no new cases appear.

Because hantavirus can have a long incubation period, health authorities may need several weeks of no new infections before declaring the situation contained.

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u/cybersphere9 — 9 days ago

How does Hantavirus spread?

Full text from the Atlantic Article, written by Dr Joseph Allen

A man goes to a birthday party, sits next to someone with hantavirus, catches it, gives it to his wife, and dies. His wife then infects 10 more people at his wake. Another guest at that same birthday party has no interaction with the index patient except to say “hello” as they cross paths, but that person gets sick too.

One index patient, 33 subsequent infections, 11 deaths, four waves of transmission.

This is from a meticulously documented hantavirus outbreak in Argentina in late 2018 and early 2019, published in the New England Journal of Medicine (NEJM). Nearly the exact same Andes strain of hantavirus caused the recent outbreak on the Dutch cruise ship MV Hondius. Yet from the moment this latest outbreak hit the news last month, public-health officials have been claiming that this virus is spread through “prolonged close contact.” The evidence is not nearly so reassuring.

In any outbreak, the single most important question is: How does it spread? The answer informs the guidance for everything else, including how to stay safe, which protective measures to put in place, and who should be notified during contact tracing. Get it wrong and everything else breaks down.

Read: ‘This is not going to be the next COVID’

We made this mistake at the start of the coronavirus pandemic, and the cost was high. Health officials thought the virus spread on surfaces (“fomite transmission”) and through large droplets that dissipate quickly and can’t travel six feet. That’s why we spent a full year cleaning elevator buttons and putting stickers on floors telling people where to stand. But these interventions did little to halt the spread of a disease that in fact traveled through small particles that lingered dangerously in poorly ventilated and enclosed spaces.

We’re now getting it wrong again. “This is not a respiratory disease,” Mike Waltz, the U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations, said about the hantavirus in an ABC News interview on Sunday, adding, “It’s very rare to see it transmitted between humans.” Transmission of the virus “requires close contact,” Jay Bhattacharya, the acting director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, insisted last week. The CDC’s official communications have continued to emphasize that “prolonged, close contact” is necessary for transmission, as have other public-health officials outside the Trump administration.

As an expert in what we call “exposure science,” I have spent a career conducting forensic investigations to understand how diseases spread and what we should do about it. As a member of the Lancet COVID-19 Commission, I chaired the Safe Work, Safe School, and Safe Travel task force, and was an early proponent of the theory that COVID spreads through the air. There was evidence early on of airborne transmission, which my colleagues and I tried to draw attention to. We modeled the early-2020 outbreak of the disease on the Diamond Princess cruise ship and found that 90 percent of the spread was through aerosols, not contaminated surfaces, but the CDC didn’t update its guidance until late 2020. I am alarmed to see the same pattern playing out now.

Hantaviruses usually originate in rodent feces. Someone cleans a dusty area that has rodent droppings, inhales the particles, and gets sick. Only the Andes strain of hantavirus is known to be transmitted from human to human. In the outbreak documented in NEJM, the virus spreads without physical contact or prolonged exposure. One patient gets sick after simply crossing paths with someone who was ill. Two others are infected while seated at tables meters away. One person infected five others within 90 minutes at one party. The NEJM authors suggested that the virus spreads through the air.

Although the NEJM evidence is clear, officials have kept repeating “prolonged, close contact,” so I wanted to be sure I wasn’t missing anything. Last week I spoke with a physician who was on the MV Hondius as a passenger but who jumped in to help treat infected passengers after the ship’s official doctor got sick and was evacuated. He told me that the original treating doctor and staff were definitely in close contact with the first patient. But the others who got sick? They had merely shared space in the dining room and the lecture hall, and had not had close contact. We’re now at 10 confirmed cases from the ship, which aligns with the prior outbreak dynamics: one person infecting many, no close contact required.

Every outbreak investigation involves careful clinical workups, painstaking epidemiology, re-created time-activity patterns, and genomic sequencing—but almost every time, without fail, the investigators ignore the actual space where the outbreak took place. Was the cruise ship’s ventilation system working? What filters did it have, and were they running?

Read: What happened on the hantavirus cruise, according to a doctor on board

This matters because medical teams treating patients need to know how they might be exposed. When infected passengers go home to quarantine, their households need to understand the risk. As passengers fly back to their home countries, contact tracers need to know which exposures matter. The doctor who treated patients on the cruise said on CNN that he relied on goggles, a gown, and hand-washing to protect himself. But given that this virus spreads through the air, an N95 mask and a strong ventilation and filtration system would have served him better.

This outbreak is not likely to spark a pandemic, mostly because the hantavirus is less contagious than influenza, measles, and SARS-CoV-2. But given just how little experience we have with this virus, any certainty is hubris. Thankfully, despite the flawed messaging, the system is broadly working: Officials are investigating, passengers are quarantined, the seriously ill are getting treatment, and the risk to the general public is low. International and national public-health authorities are acting responsibly.

But what happens next depends on how well public-health officials communicate what precautions people should be taking. If people mistakenly believe transmission relies only on “prolonged close contact,” they may take risks they will soon regret.

Public-health officials have to be more honest and more humble about how this virus actually spreads. An essential lesson from COVID is that officials should be candid about communicating that we are often learning in real time, and we should shy away from making bold pronouncements that may prove dangerously misleading weeks or months later. When it comes to preventing an outbreak from becoming a pandemic, insisting on the wrong answer to that most central question—How does it spread?—may well be worse than not having an answer at all.

u/cybersphere9 — 9 days ago

Tourist hotspot at 'end of the world' denies causing hantavirus outbreak

The leading hypothesis A landfill site on the outskirts of Ushuaia where tourists watch birds — waste attracts rodents, rodents carry Andes virus. Anonymous Argentinian officials have floated this as their primary theory. Locally it has gone down like a cup of cold sick.

Ushuaia's defence The provincial epidemiologist makes a genuinely substantive case, not just political deflection. Zero recorded hantavirus cases in Tierra del Fuego since 1996. Wrong climate, wrong humidity, wrong rodent subspecies — the long-tailed pygmy rice rat's endemic zone (a geographic area where a particular disease or organism is consistently present at a baseline level) is 1,500km north. Being an island with the Strait of Magellan as a barrier adds another layer of difficulty for rodent migration.

The actual likely origin The epidemiological reconstruction points to the Dutch couple — almost certainly patient zero — having contracted it two to four weeks before boarding, probably in the Patagonian provinces of Neuquén, Río Negro or Chubut. That's the established endemic zone. Their four-month road trip through Argentina, Chile and Uruguay before boarding on April 1st is the exposure window investigators are working through.

The investigation on the ground Argentina announced a team of experts to trap and test rodents at the landfill. Two days later they still hadn't shown up. The BBC visited the site and found birds circling piles of waste and no active investigation. Vintage.

The economic stakes 95% of Antarctic cruises depart from Ushuaia. Over 500 port calls annually. No cancellations yet but the season just ended — the real damage assessment comes later.

The Dutch couple can't fill in the gaps because they're dead. That's the brutal epistemological problem at the centre of this entire origin investigation.

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u/cybersphere9 — 10 days ago

Dutch hospital staff quarantined after possible hantavirus exposure and PPE breach

Twelve hospital staff at Radboud University Medical Centre will be in isolation for six weeks after failing to follow strict PPE protocols when treating a hantavirus-infected patient evacuated from the cruise ship MV Hondius

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u/cybersphere9 — 10 days ago
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Harvard Professor says official messaging contradicts hantavirus science

Harvard Professor Contradicts Official CDC Messaging on Andes Virus Transmission

Professor Joseph Allen, an Exposure Assessment Scientist at Harvard University, is publicly challenging the official public health messaging around Andes hantavirus transmission — and he's backing it with published literature and first-hand accounts from the ship.

What officials are saying That transmission requires prolonged close contact and is very difficult to pass between people.

What the science actually says Allen went to the primary literature expecting to find support for that claim. He didn't find it. The best available paper on Andes transmission does not support the prolonged close contact requirement.

What happened on the ship Initial cases involved close contact with treating medical staff — expected. But subsequent cases occurred among passengers who only shared a dining room or lecture hall with no close physical contact. The ship's doctor contracted it and had to be evacuated.

The birthday party precedent In a prior land-based Andes outbreak, transmission occurred between people who briefly said hello in passing at a 90-minute gathering. People at separate tables got sick. One attendee later died and passed it to his wife at his funeral — she then transmitted it to ten other people.

His bottom line Overall public risk remains low and this is not a COVID-scale event. However people currently in quarantine need accurate transmission information because if they believe only intense close contact matters, they will inadvertently create secondary transmission chains within their own households.

Ventilation and air filtration are relevant if airborne spread is confirmed — same principles that applied during COVID.

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u/cybersphere9 — 10 days ago

👋 Welcome to r/Outbreak - Introduce Yourself and Read First!

Welcome to r/Outbreak

Good to have you here.

If you've landed here, you're probably the type who reads past the headline, wonders how these things actually spread, and finds the intersection of biology, human behaviour, and global events genuinely fascinating. You might also be the type who binges pandemic films but spends half the runtime muttering about implausible transmission vectors. The world is stranger and more complex than the news cycle suggests, and outbreaks have a way of making that very clear very fast.

What we're here for

Tracking and discussing outbreaks as they happen around the world, with enough context to actually understand them. New pathogens, historical parallels, the occasional "wait, that's spreading where?" moment. We follow the evidence, favour credible sources, and try to generate more light than heat.

What good posting looks like here

Interesting links, genuine questions, informed discussion, dark humour. You don't need a science degree to contribute, just curiosity and a willingness to engage seriously with the material. If you're posting a video, a short summary in the comments isn't required but will earn you serious brownie points. Not everyone has the time or bandwidth to commit to a full watch. Personal anecdotes and inside scoops are genuinely welcome too. If you're a nurse who noticed something unusual, a traveller who just returned from somewhere interesting, or someone with a view from the ground that the media isn't capturing, that's exactly the kind of thing this community exists for.

What we're not

A panic feed. Or a place where fear substitutes for understanding. Fringe and contrarian takes are not automatically unwelcome here. Sometimes the heterodox position turns out to be correct, and groupthink has burned us before.

Getting started

Read the rules, then jump in.

Remember to wash your hands before posting.

With your help, we can make this subreddit go viral.

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u/cybersphere9 — 10 days ago

What is Hantavirus?

Hantavirus isn't new. It's an ancient rodent-borne pathogen that simply wasn't on Western medicine's radar until the Korean War, when roughly 3,000 UN troops developed a mysterious hemorrhagic fever near the Hantan River (the virus's namesake). Military activity disturbed local rodent habitats, stressing the animal population and increasing viral shedding, which exposed a vulnerable and immunologically naive troop population. Critically, it's believed that returning American troops may have carried the infection back to the United States, meaning the virus's presence in the Americas may itself be a legacy of that conflict.

What appeared to be a new disease was anything but. It was already ancient in that part of Korea, circulating silently in the local rodent population for who knows how long before a large vulnerable human population stumbled into it.

Hantavirus is a family of viruses with geographically distinct strains. The strain relevant to the current cruise ship situation is Andes Virus, originating in South America, and it has one characteristic that sets it apart from most hantaviruses: a demonstrated capacity for person to person transmission. Most strains require direct exposure to infected rodent material. Andes Virus doesn't strictly need that chain.

That said, it remains an inefficient transmitter with no current evidence of mutation toward greater infectivity, which is why pandemic risk is assessed as low.

Severity variation between individuals remains incompletely understood. Immune status, general health, and genetics all contribute. The cruise ship context compounds vulnerability: these voyages attract older passengers with greater baseline immune susceptibility, and prolonged time in a cold, poorly ventilated enclosed environment provided ideal conditions for slow cumulative exposure rather than explosive outbreak.

Returning passengers pose minimal risk to the broader public but warrant close individual monitoring given their age profile and a potential incubation period still running.

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u/cybersphere9 — 10 days ago