How does Crumb get the doubled-vocals sound in their live sets? Or am I hallucinating?
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How does Crumb get the doubled-vocals sound in their live sets? Or am I hallucinating?

Crumb - Fall Down @ New Guild Co-op

It is really apparent on this version of "Fall Down"^

It sounds like it could be a few things:

  • doubled vocal track: but I wonder how they pull this off with, they have tempo changes in a few songs, and they don't seem to always play at the same speeds. Is there a way to automate the timing of doubled tracks? Like how DJs can match tempos before fading into a new track?
  • overtone singing: Lila has a very breath-y undertone, I'm not sure if this is just my ears hallucinating two voices because of her singing style.
  • delay: Maybe I am hearing doubled vocals due to a delay effect, I don't know.

Forgive me if my terminology is off, I am no expert on this stuff.

Another Example:
Crumb - AMAMA (Live on KEXP)

u/ecscrogg — 10 days ago

Unrealistic Thought Experiment: With a cost cap in place, what do you think of slashing technical regulations?

***EDIT—***explaining the logic behind this idea:
A lot of modern technical regulations have evolved to keep cost down so smaller teams could compete—like getting rid of the MGU-H. Also exotic metal bans, active suspension bans, mass damper bans, FRICS, etc.

I think these regulations were totally necessary at the time for the health of the sport. But in my mind, a cost-cap is a better way to address these issues. Following from this logic, you would expect to see a more relaxed ruleset, but it feels like we have gotten the opposite. The cars are incredibly similar, and regulations are more complex than ever. My main point here is that the pendulum of overregulation should swing back given the new cost cap.

I recently watched a great documentary about Can-AM called "Speed Odyssey"

In the 60s-70s, can-am raced with an extremely relaxed set of regulations, resulting in faster lap times than F1 and incredible diversity-of-concepts amongst the cars.

Pre-cost cap, this is obviously untenable for modern F1. But with a cost cap, why not allow F1 teams to build whatever they want, retaining only technical regulations that are focused on safety standards?

here are my pros and cons of this (obviously unrealistic) idea.

Pros:

  • Extreme diversity among the car concepts—every team would likely be recognizable even without paint on the car
  • Extreme uptick in innovative designs (think 70s F1 with teams trying out new and wacky stuff)
  • Limited by cost-cap, so teams will likely choose certain areas to focus their innovations
  • A return to the (albeit romanticized) "pinnacle of motorsport", where these are truly the fastest cars you can build for $X amount of money.
  • (Maybe) more mechanical DNFs with experimental designs.
  • (Maybe) a return to high powered, high revving engines.

Cons:

  • Probably a complete loss of parity. There seems to be a split between F1 fans who want to see close racing and fans that are more interested in engineering. As an American fan, IndyCar supplies me with all the close racing I could ask for—so I fall more into the second camp (also, I think non-spec-series efforts for parity are futile anyways, look at Mercedes right now)
  • Teams that get it wrong with design would struggle even more to catch up, so more testing-time/cost cap bonuses would likely need to be dished out to lower-placed teams.

I can't think of anything else at the moment, but I am really curious to hear your thoughts!

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u/ecscrogg — 10 days ago