u/emily_in_boots

So we just got modmails from the admins that a number of our rules were being duplicated into comment guidance. I have so far disabled them all and I wanted to speak about why so you guys know why they do not currently meet our needs. I understand that you want us to move in this direction going forward instead of automod, and that you are looking to improve these tools - so here's why I didn't make the switch right now.

> 1. I can't copy and paste between subreddits. Keeping many of these filters up to date is a lot of work, and with automations, I can't make a change and then copy it everywhere. There is no way to copy rules between subs. Suggestion: Allow us to create public and private lists of rules, and then allow subreddits to subcribe to them. So say one user comes up with a list of words for ai (like a mod posted recently here), she could make this something you simply have to subscribe to, and then updates would be automatic if changed at the source level.

> 2. Right now, automations can either warn people, block submission, or report to queue. They cannot filter. This is a huge problem. Filtering is what we all rely on most of all. I remove very little and filter a LOT. Probably the only thing I just remove is redact spam. If you choose to warn people, they will go around it. For some things, it might be ok (e.g. We like to trigger off wedding related words in posts to remind a user to include a dress code). However, if a user is trying to make a disgusting sexual comment, and you pop up a warning, they'll just change the words until they can get it through.

> 3. Only automod right now can filter things before they send notifies. Devvit apps cannot. This is something the admins who work on devvit are aware of and u/pl00h mentioned this is something to work on. Devvit apps can filter at least, automations can't even do that - it's only a report, which means that the comment becomes viewable.

> 4. Some of these revealed sensitive information we do not want to share, including ways in which we detect people who violate our already significant comment guidance rules. There are certain patterns and characters that we look for that find them - we do NOT want to warn people about these.

> 5. Regex is limited to one expression per automation. We are limited to 50 automations. We have far more than 50 regex expressions in our automod that filter things. Automod can handle this easily. For comment/post guidance to be able to do this, it will need to be able to do this too. We need to be able to create automations with multiple regex expressions. We also need access to lookaheads and lookbehinds, which we use quite a lot. I think these are disabled because they cannot work real time due to computational overhead - and that's fine - but let us use them with the rules that are going to remove or filter.

These are areas in which post/comment guidance are really not able to match the functionality of automod, and fixing these issues would encourage many of us to migrate rules to the new system.

So our top post yesterday in outfits shows 4 crossposts.

It doesn't reveal where the crossposts are too though. Instead it says they are to "private or sensitive communities". I can see using PRAW that one of those was to a porn sub, but I can't see the others.

Do you have any idea how scary it is for women to find out that their personal photos are being shared and discussed somewhere and they can't even see where that is?

It seriously freaks out posters. Please let them know where their content is being shared to, or disable the ability to share to those locations altogether.

This is super, super creepy and would freak out any woman posting her photos. Someone really should have realized this when it was set up like this. Please ask some of the other women on the admin teams how they'd feel in this situation.

#THIS IS NOT OK

u/ingeekitrust

Starting today, devvit is returning u/[redacted] for some users. These are not banned accounts. They are active, not banned, not shadowbanned, and not banned in the subreddit. I don't know if they are blocking the bot or if it could be related to profile curation bugs.

Yet devvit is getting [redacted] as the user when checking it.

Another dev in the dev discord has experienced something similar and had to patch his app.

This is kind of a big problem for me - one of my devvit apps checks for removals by another mod (hive is what I use it with), and then persistently shadowbans those users.

So I've been getting a bunch of users all having content removed in some of my subs (longhair, femalehairadvice, womensstreetwear, shortynails, and curlygirl, where I use this bot).

It doesn't remove everyone, but I can't figure out why some are and some are not.

I rolled out a quick patch that now just ignores the user [redacted] (or any user that is not a valid reddit username consisting of alphanumeric, dash, underscore characters), and it removes the "redacted" entry from redis - but I want to understand what's going on so I can patch this more effectively and ensure that it's doing what it's supposed to do.

For any other mods using this, the most recent patch is not publicly approved yet - waiting on admins for that, but it's generally quick. The new one is 1.0.2 and hopefully fixes this. It should stop the unwanted removals but it's unclear at this point if it means that it will miss some users who should be shadowbanned.

Sorry for any inconvenience - waiting on the admins to let me know what's up with this, either here or through the dev discord.

EDIT: Version 1.0.2 was approved by the admins and can be installed. I'm not entirely sure for now if it will continue to correctly handle shadowbans for all removed content, but it should stop any false removals. If you use remove-user, please upgrade to 1.0.2. u/ingeekitrust u/safe_4_all u/Smallseybiggs

I may need to release more patches in the future if this is not a bug that's going to be reverted so the app doesn't miss any users - but for now I think the priority is preventing false removals.

So in one of my subs, I had a 16yo girl post a question about pregnancy (it's basically the old "Could I be pregnant?) question. It does have some details about what happened.

Following the sub's rules, she correctly tagged it as NSFW.

My question is - does it violate Reddit Rules for a minor to post an NSFW post of this nature? I didn't approve because this concerned me. I don't object to the idea of a 16yo asking health/informational questions. She's obviously having sex, and being informed about sex and its potential consequences is important, and something I don't consider harmful.

What's the right course of action here for us as mods?

We have an issue with a creep who takes posters and sends them nudes of themselves created with ai, and then deletes the chat. What can be done about this? Is there any way to report them?

So we have a user in several subs that we banned after reddit's adult content filter flagged her.

She claims she was hacked. Based on the history, I believe her. Her account shows nothing nsfw going back until one day there are a whole bunch of porn posts all at the same time as well as links to adult content platforms.

Is it possible for her to appeal this designation? Are those designations permanent or do they fluctuate and update over time?

I'm also concerned about unbanning her in my subs as I have seen reddit flagging lots of subs as NSFW for allowing adult content creators. Will this count against my subs if I do it and risk them being classified as NSFW?