u/fandango1979

Won constructive dismissal, lost whistleblowing and sex discrimination.

Tad confused as they found that protected disclosures were made, but that the detriments that followed were not related to the content of the protected disclosures. Even though he had an unblemished career with nothing but positive appraisals until he made those disclosures.

They also found that the respondents actions could be perceived as sex discrimination but they weren’t brought in time.

So now we have a PH for December and then remedy hearing March. Any tips on how to prepare for these? Many thanks

Hey, hope everyone is enjoying the sunshine. My husbands case finished in July. With liability being determined at the end of August (we are not required to attend, they’re doing it in private). Will they email us on the day or does it take a long time to get the result? (England) thank you

…have been received. I was under the impression that they should be factual and not hearsay/opinionated. Things like I was the driver, was not objective etc are throughout it 😆. Surely from their side, they’re not objective either! Seems very tittle tattle.

Not received a result yet but had an email to say it will need a 2 day remedy hearing if successful. This seems like a long time. Anyone else had similar? Thank you

I’ve just represented my husband in a case against fire service. I have brain cancer…not that it’s an excuse at all but it took me extra time to process everything and the neuro side effects are overwhelming at the moment. I’ve lost a stone in ten days. He had 30 years blemish free career until he whistleblew and they wanted rid. At the time it occurred the misogyny reports were in parliament and because the man he whistleblew on was sleeping with the female manager they sought revenge. I need to gain a bit of strength then I’ll put more on here about the experience.
All I can say is I loved the paperwork and build up but the two weeks absolutely destroyed me. Lost a stone, poorly and the tactics continued. Turning up en mass. Documents late at night. We had 3 witnesses that they did over 4 days. They gave us 4 days for 11 witnesses. Only one person told the truth. The rest made themselves look dicks with the corporate response and robotic same buzz word answers. Unfortunately for them they forgot what they had said in the grounds of resistance so their witness statements totally contradicted that and other evidence. Absolutely no accountability whatsoever. By midway second week I got really poorly from the stress and it exacerbated my neuro symptoms so I did weep a couple of times but the judge and panel were really patient with me.
My husband crumbled in the stand. But the evidence stands. And result end of August. Win lose or draw I have no regrets. I need to suss out how to do written submissions but at the minute the sight of my laptop makes me feel physically sick.
I saw a case a while ago for constructive dismissal where someone stayed in employment during notice period but not actually at work. I’ve lost the name but if anyone knows I would love to be reminded. Can’t thank you all enough for the support you have given me over the months.

Hi, fully aware that I could be exposing myself to any of the legal team from the respondents by posing this question but just want thoughts please.

Audio investigation recordings sent to me May 2026. Said no transcripts were available. They were recorded 2024. I assumed that they would have been listened to.

Barrister raised they hadn’t been agreed. This was discussed in case management and Judge their informally advised I produce a listening list. Which I did. Even putting the list of issues that I thought the time stamp referred to. Submitted that.

Then decided I would type up a transcript anyway. Again putting timestamps and list of issue I felt it supported. Sent that in.

They’re now saying that the transcripts aren’t agreed. I managed to argue the above points and Judge said that they can argue any errors at the end and if it’s found they I’ve made it up then that will be classed as vexatious.

I absolutely haven’t made anything up so I’m not concerned about that.

Tonight I’ve had an email from respondent asking for me to identify the parts in the audio that I will rely upon in cross examination for certain witnesses. I’m uneasy about this as it feels like I’m basically giving them chance to practice their answers.

They already have a barrister, solicitor, head of hr and another manager in there constantly passing notes to one another as well as no doubt assisting witnesses who are due to appear of what is happening, they too are witnesses.

So I guess my question is - is it a reasonable request for them to ask that?

Thanks

Now at the final hearing. Had it relatively easy up to this point. Now, wow, it’s blooming hard.

The barrister is crazy clever and the way they do cross examination with ease is admirable. Not going to lie, a witness was torn up yesterday. Not because they’re lying but the barrister just tied them up in knots to the point that he worded it so it sounded like other witnesses and evidence referred to sounded like the truth (even though there’s evidence to back up what the witness says!).

It’s also respondent heavy…with 2 of their witnesses watching, taking notes and passing to solicitor and barrister.

So, at this point I feel it’s not going to go our way and the only saving grace is that we can talk about it afterwards.

I guess what I’m trying to say is that you get offered a settlement before it gets to final hearing, seriously consider it.

Good luck to everyone.

Good afternoon. If a Respondent’s witness does not attend, am I still able to speak to the judge about that witness statement? Many thanks

Good evening/good morning! Just a question regarding witnesses. If for example the HR Director, HR Manager and HR Assistant are listed as witnesses, can they sit in during cross examination? I’m just thinking how unfair that would be for them to know the angle and to have heard their bosses responses. I’m not a fuss kicker upper so would love to hear your insight. Many thanks

I don’t suppose anyone has a 0113 direct number to the Leeds office do they?! I’m supposed to upload some documents today and they’ve not sent a link or responded to emails. The national number have been unable to help too.

I wanted to explore every avenue before blocking their email inbox up with a large document!

Many thanks

Final hearing in a couple of weeks. Currently on with the cross examination questions.

As I don’t work, I have plenty of time to prepare albeit to the detriment of family life. I have no idea how people do this for a living and completely take my hat off to the professionals. Especially the fact that you are working several cases at once.

I have been amicable throughout…not for a game plan but because that is just me and I know that all involved are just doing their job. However, the solicitor tone has now gone from friendly ish to off with bare minimum information, cold tone etc. I see this that I was lucky to have so long communicating with them in a nice manner especially after hearing of some people’s experiences from a group I am on, on Facebook. The barrister we are facing is also a part time fee paid employment judge…again trying to stay positive in the hope that they are a good person and will be aware of their responsibilities so won’t try any very dirty tactics. Well not as many anyway!

So now I am preparing for a few extra bits and I wondered if I need to prepare an opening statement?

And anything else you can think of that I should do or be prepared for please? Whether from a professional view/experience or as a litigant in person who has been there, done it and worn the tshirt?

Many thanks

Hi. So I did post previously about the respondent contacting someone in the bundle and asking them to contact the solicitor. That person made a recording. Which they sent to us (we had no idea). The recording supports the list of issues, several parts. So we have submitted it for disclosure but the respondent says it’s inadmissible.

After the failed ADR the other day, the judge said it is fine to contact people within the bundle or witness statements. We contacted one person who is named as part of the defence for one part of the list of issues. Sent a very polite message explaining there is a tribunal case and that x and y have stated z and can you confirm if this is true. He replied and said it absolutely isn’t. So those screenshots have been submitted, which again they don’t want to go forward.

The other part relates to their own investigation audio which they disclosed. I explained to the judge that this audio supports the list of issues and she said for me to compile a listening list so that the panel can listen in chambers. I’ve reduced it down massively…there were over 20 hours of audio and it’s probably a total of an hour max . They’re also saying that can’t go forward! Even though it’s what the judge asked for.

So…I’m going to do a supplementary bundle and let the judge decide if it is admissible. I realise I’ll probably have to give reasons so will prepare for that.

Does this sound reasonable? I know they’re objecting because it all supports the list of issues significantly. They disclosed it! And regarding the audio of the conversation, they initiated the contact with that person!

Any advice would be greatly appreciated

ADR today. Face on, suited and booted despite being behind a screen. Fake it til you make it 😆.
Going into it with an open mind. And reasoning behind the SOL.
Any last tips from anyone? Many thanks

…has not been provided. Dispute resolution next week and the Respondent has not sent it yet despite being due a couple of weeks ago. Why would they be so reluctant?!

Good evening. I hope you had a lovely bank holiday.

We have ADR coming up. Does anyone have any tips to offer from their professional experience or as a litigant in person?

Many thanks

Hi, so the respondents solicitor is now contacting people who support the case from claimants side. This is to verify texts and quotes that have been submitted in the bundle.

First of all, I’m assuming this is allowed. Second of all, are we able to do the same?

Thank you

Please may someone give me a little guidance with cross examination?

So I know we have to prove each item listed on the LOI.

Am I also allowed to point out contradictions in witness statements? The audio interviews and the witness statements completely contradict one another in some parts so I’m keen to show the tribunal that.

Any cross examination advice is greatly appreciated including best ways to compile your list of questions too!

Many thanks

We are approaching DRA and final hearing of 2 weeks duration.
I’ve had a relatively good relationship with the original solicitor involved who has been professional, communicative and fair.
Someone else has now taken over. And is not of the same approach.
Is this normal as we get close to the latter stages of the case?

Play silly buggers at this time. Witness statements exchanged. R solicitor wanted the position statement and SOL before they sent theirs despite cmo saying same day exchange.
Sent mine as they said theirs was ready…and they’ve sent invalid password.
Seems very silly given the most important documents have been exchanged….although they did send some blank ones across on that too.
I’ve spoke to this person for the best part of 2 years and agreed to extension after extension in the interest of being amicable and now left on read 😆😆😆.
It’s not like the position statements are going to align so I can’t see the big deal but clearly they’re liaising with the R right now and can’t reply!

After witness statements have exchanged, what happens behind the scenes please? Do these get emailed to respondent for them to review and have a discussion with the solicitor?
And then prep for cross exam?
Thank you