u/idontknowaskthatguy

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The fastest way to ruin your trading is to need it to pay your bills

I see this come up constantly. Someone has a few good months, maybe even a good year, and they start doing the math on quitting their job.

But the second your rent depends on your next trade, you are a different trader. You will feel it in every entry, every exit, every drawdown. Even if you think you won't.

I've traded with some guys who were sharp, disciplined, consistent - until they went full time without a financial cushion. Watched the pressure turn good traders into overthinkers and revenge traders within a few months.

If you're serious about trading for a living, the first thing you need to figure out isn't your strategy, but your income. Something steady that covers your bills whether you have a green month or a red one. That boring foundation gives you the freedom to actually trade well.

The dream may be quitting your job. To get there, you have to be trading without needing to trade.

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u/idontknowaskthatguy — 7 days ago

This question keeps coming up. Seen a few versions of it this week alone. Usually framed like AI is going to crack the market code, hoover up all the edge, and leave us little traders with nothing but scraps.

I don't buy it. Here's why.

The market has always changed. That's not new. What's maybe new is the pace. Over the last 20 years, regime changes seem to happen more frequently than the 20 years before that. Volatility clusters differently. Correlations shift faster. Strategies that worked for years suddenly stop working, then sometimes start again.

But that's still just the market doing what it does. It adapts, evolves, absorbs (some say it swallows).

Now people are worried that machine learning, generative AI, LLMs... whatever flavor you want... will finally "solve" the market and exploit it to drain the whole pond.

I think the chance of that is small.

The market isn't one game, rather thousands of games happening at once.

You've got hedge funds speculating, doing long/short, or extracting millions of pennies a day using HFT. You've got pension funds rebalancing. You've got companies hedging currency exposure for real-world business reasons. You've got market makers providing liquidity. You've got retail traders scalping the open. You've got algos arbitraging tiny inefficiencies. You've got macro funds positioning around central bank policy.

All of these players are doing different things, on different timeframes, for different reasons. Some aren't even trying to make money in the traditional sense, whether they're managing risk, or executing mandates (like tracking an index), or hedging other positions.

That's a lot of variables, tons of noise. A lot of moving parts that don't care what some AI model thinks the "optimal" trade is.

For an AI to truly dominate the market, it would need to:

  1. Understand all of these participants and their motivations
  2. Predict how they'll behave in novel situations
  3. Identify them and when they're trading, among all other traders, and when it will matter.
  4. Do this faster than the market adapts to its own presence
  5. Maintain that edge as everyone else adapts in response

That's a tall order. Markets are reflexive. The moment something starts working, it changes the conditions that made it work. Any edge, AI or otherwise, gets arbitraged away or forces adaptation.

And let's say some firm does build something that gets close. Let's say they find an edge. What happens? They deploy capital. The edge shrinks. Others notice the patterns. They adapt. The market shifts again.

This has always been the game.

Now the counterpoint. Some people argue that AI will create advantages so large and so fast that retail simply can't compete. That latency, data access, and compute power will become insurmountable moats.

There's something to that. Institutional players have always had advantages. Everything from better data, to faster execution, and of course more capital, smarter people ("have you met my quant?"). That's not new either. And yes, AI will probably widen some of those gaps in certain areas.

But here's what I'd say to that.

If you're a profitable retail trader, you're probably not competing directly with Renaissance Technologies anyway. You're not scalping microsecond inefficiencies or running massive statistical arbitrage portfolios.

You're trading patterns that work on your timeframe, with your personality. You have a different edge from the next guy. Maybe you just understand structure and have good patience and risk management. You can bob and weave, get in and out, and make it work for you. Maybe you just ride the waves created by the big boys.

Those things don't disappear because some AI got smarter.

If anything, AI will create new patterns to adapt to. New flows. New behaviors. And if you've been trading long enough, you know that's just another Tuesday. You've already adapted to algos dominating the tape. You've already adapted to zero commissions changing retail behavior. You've already adapted to meme stock manias and pandemic volatility and Fed intervention.

Trading means constant adaptation. The conditions change and you figure it out or you don't.

Let's be honest about something else. It's already hard to be a profitable retail trader. The numbers are grim. Maybe 5-10% make it long-term. AI isn't going to change that number much in either direction.

If you're already profitable, you know the drill. You adapt. You protect capital. You stay humble about what you don't know. AI is just another variable.

If you're not profitable yet, the same principles apply. The market will always change. You'll always need to adapt. Whether the change comes from AI or central banks or geopolitics or some new derivative instrument doesn't really matter. The skill is the same: read the conditions, adjust, survive, execute.

So no. I don't think AI is going to end retail trading. I don't think it will make profitability impossible. It might make certain edges obsolete. It might accelerate some regime changes. It might introduce new patterns to learn.

But it's not magic. It's not omniscient. It's one more player in a game that's already absurdly complex.

The traders who survive will be the ones who always survive. They know how to live to fight another day, or even another year.

That's the whole game. Always has been.

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u/idontknowaskthatguy — 1 month ago