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Intro — Joe's Botanicals, leaf-only vendor in Orange County, CA

Intro — Joe's Botanicals, leaf-only vendor in Orange County, CA

Hi all. We posted the DEA August 5 breakdown here a couple of weeks back, so we should introduce ourselves properly.

We're Joe's Botanicals, based in Orange County, California.

What we sell: leaf powder and capsules. Nine single strains across green, white and red vein. No extracts, no 7-OH, no enhanced blends. AKA GMP qualified, 21+ only.

Testing: our current lots are tested by Alliance Analytical Laboratories, an ISO 17025 accredited lab — alkaloids, heavy metals, full microbials. On 7-OH, they come back under 0.01% against the DEA's 0.050% plant-material threshold. Want the report for a specific lot? Email support@joesbotanicals.com with the lot number.

We can't discuss effects or usage here (FDA rules for vendors), so we stick to sourcing, testing, and legality.

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— Joe's Botanicals

u/joesbotanicals — 10 days ago

What the DEA's August 5 action actually covers and what it doesn't

There's a lot of noise about the DEA and 7-OH right now, so here's what the actual filing says.

The DEA filed two notices of intent on July 1 (published in the Federal Register July 6) to temporarily place 7-OH and three related synthetic substances into Schedule I. The order can't take effect before August 5 and would last up to two years. Nothing is banned yet — it's a notice of intent, not a final order.

What it covers: 7-OH above a set threshold, plus mitragynine pseudoindoxyl, MGM-15 and MGM-16, none of which occur naturally in the plant.

What it doesn't cover: botanical kratom with naturally occurring 7-OH below the threshold. For plant material the threshold is 0.050% 7-OH by dry weight.

So this is aimed at concentrated and synthetic products, not natural leaf. If you're a leaf vendor or buyer, the main practical impact is that your COAs should show 7-OH under that threshold, which natural leaf normally is, but "normally" and "documented" aren't the same thing.

Disclosure: leaf vendor here (Joe's Botanicals). Posting because there's more panic than fact going around.

Sources: Federal Register, July 6, 2026; DEA and HHS statements, July 1.

— Joe's Botanicals

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