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Was Nip Callin Out Big U Again??

Was Nip Callin Out Big U Again??

Am I tripping or was Nipsey shooting shots at Big U (Big Draws)
And if he was, then that Fatts shit smelling funkier by the minute.

Because if that's true, then the Big U calling shots on Nip's life
gets more clear with it.

u/jumpoff24 — 6 days ago
▲ 7 r/Tupac

The Shooter Theory: Big Dre vs Orlando

Police Interview with Big Dre: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fj4fPh9ryc4 (Keefe D always said that Big Dre was a scary dude, like a bitch, but listening to the interview, I don't believe that to be true by no metric. Big Dre was also a suspected known shooter)

Yafeu Fula Statement to the LVMPD: https://www.scribd.com/document/272643481/yafeu-fula-statement-1-redacted

I know we’ve spent the last three decades theorizing about who actually fired the shots that ultimately killed Tupac Shakur.

I’ve personally been digging into this for about 15 years, going through interviews, police statements, witness recollections, documentaries, grand jury testimony, and pretty much anything else I could find. And one question I’ve kept coming back to is whether the shooter was actually Orlando “Baby Lane” Anderson or DeAndre “Big Dre” Smith.

With the Keefe D trial currently happening, I’ve started going back through all of this material again. This time, I’ve also been using AI to help me compile, compare, and parse the different accounts, particularly when it comes to the physical practicality of the shooting.

Before anybody gets hung up on the AI part: I’m not treating AI as a source or claiming that an AI-generated probability proves who killed Tupac. We all know AI can get things wrong. I’m using it as an analytical tool to compare evidence and competing scenarios that I’ve collected independently.

And the deeper I’ve gotten into it, the more I’ve started questioning the long-standing assumption that Orlando was definitely the shooter.

The generally accepted seating arrangement in the white Cadillac was:

Driver: Terrence “T-Brown/Bubble Up” Brown
Front passenger: Keefe D
Rear driver’s side: Big Dre
Rear passenger side: Orlando Anderson

When the Cadillac pulled alongside Suge’s BMW, Tupac was in the BMW’s passenger seat. That put Tupac closest to Big Dre’s side of the Cadillac.

That’s where things get interesting.

Keefe’s version requires Orlando, sitting on the opposite side of the backseat, to take the gun and reach/lean across Big Dre to fire toward Tupac.

And Big Dre wasn’t a small dude. He was an extremely large man.

Meanwhile, Big Dre was already sitting directly beside the window facing Tupac.

Then you have Denvonta “Dirt Rock” Lee’s 2023 grand jury testimony. Lee wasn’t an eyewitness to the shooting, so that distinction matters. But Lee testified about a conversation he said he had with Big Dre shortly after Tupac was shot. According to Lee’s account, Orlando tried to reach across Dre but couldn’t get a clear shot, and Dre took the gun and fired instead.

Then there’s Yafeu “Kadafi” Fula’s original LVMPD statement from September 8, 1996, taken only hours after the shooting.

This one really caught my attention because Kadafi actually witnessed the shooting.

Kadafi told Detective Brent Becker that he saw the gun outside the Cadillac’s window. When Becker asked which window, Kadafi said:

>“It’s hard to tell. I believe it was the front, though.”

Becker asked:

>“The driver’s window?”

Kadafi:

>“Yeah.”

Later Becker specifically asked whether he thought the driver was shooting.

Kadafi answered:

>“Either the driver or someone shootin’ from the back out the front window.”

That’s a very interesting statement when you overlay it with the alleged seating arrangement.

Big Dre was sitting directly behind the driver.

Kadafi was also asked whether he could see the shooter’s arm:

>“Looked dark.”

Becker clarified:

>“When you say dark, dark skinned, or…?”

Kadafi:

>“Yeah. Dark skinned.”

Again, none of this proves Big Dre fired the gun. Kadafi couldn’t definitively identify which occupant was shooting, and Dirt Rock didn’t personally witness the shooting.

But now we have several things pointing in the same direction:

• Big Dre occupied the most practical firing position.
• Tupac was directly alongside Big Dre’s side of the Cadillac.
• Keefe says the gun initially went toward Big Dre.
• Dirt Rock later gave an account in which Orlando couldn’t get a clear shot and Dre fired instead.
• Within hours of the murder, Kadafi described the gunfire as appearing to come from around the driver’s-side/front-window area, potentially from someone firing from the rear.
• Kadafi described the visible shooter’s arm as dark-skinned.
• Keefe, meanwhile, maintains that Orlando leaned across Dre and fired.

After having the competing accounts and physical layout compared, the current analytical lean I’ve gotten is roughly:

Big Dre: 80%
Orlando Anderson: 20%

Again, those percentages aren’t forensic statistics. They’re simply a way of expressing which scenario appears more mechanically and evidentially plausible based on the information being compared.

What interests me isn’t really the number anyway.

It’s the fact that the Big Dre theory seems considerably more plausible than the historical narrative usually gives it credit for.

For decades, “Orlando killed Tupac” has almost become accepted as fact. But when you strip away that assumption and start with the 1996 eyewitness statements, seating positions, later testimony, and Keefe’s account, I’m not convinced the identity of the shooter is nearly as settled as we’ve treated it.

With Keefe’s trial finally putting many of these old statements under a microscope, I think this is worth revisiting.

What do you guys think? If you disregard the traditional Orlando narrative and look strictly at the available evidence and physical positioning, who makes more sense as the shooter: Orlando or Big Dre?

u/jumpoff24 — 2 months ago