u/kljoker

The restoration of all things and the Mystery of God.

Hi Friends,

Hope you've all had a good day today. I realize a lot of what I write about is peripheral to the subs intended topics but I do think knowing these things are very important to understanding the time we are in and what's to come. Seeing the man of lawlessness is just one very small piece of the puzzle in a game we aren't even able to play in. The part we play comes later at the height of this power because when else would God flex His glory than to lay low such a powerful long standing system than to use a bunch of downtrodden misfits and the afflicted? That's really the only times we see God do the most major of events so that the contrast is so telling that there's no way to deny it was from God, even if they don't want to believe it.

This is the premise of understanding the importance of what the Mystery of God entails, the revelation of which will be so profound it will break the systems of the world and make the enemies His footstool, and what greater triumph for a return of Christ than a defeated enemy at the hands of His people by the spirit working through them. We will continue to see catastrophes build as these powers continue to position themselves after each one into more and more dictatorial roles in our lives. We've long been slaves to this beast but it wasn't until they tethered the leash that we realized how helpless we were, after all who could stand up against the beast?

For many they will try to fight, revelation warns that those who lead by the sword will die by the sword and those who lead into captivity will go into captivity. That doesn't mean we are without recourse, it just means that in this time we must choose wisely which path we walk, not every path will have a happy ending but I don't believe the decision to fight against evil is in itself evil. Just that we actually have at our disposal scripture that is relevant to the time we are in. That is the mystery of God, the sealed 7 thunders that were uttered at the end. Did you think they would remain a mystery? That they would remain sealed? No, they will be revealed and when they are is when the end will come, I believe. As Jesus said this:

"But he who endures to the end shall be saved. And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come."-Matthew 24:13-14

Look at what He tells us, we have to endure until the end which is marked by the revelation of the gospel of the kingdom. In just 2 sentences He frames the meaning behind the 7th trumpet, the 7 thunders and His return which scripture said wouldn't be until the time of restoration. What are we restoring? The kingdom of God, the one in which a third of the angels were cast out along with Satan. How does He restore such a thing? Well scripture tells us simply by first naming what role the fallen angel had:

“How you are fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! How you are cut down to the ground, You who weakened the nations!"-Isaiah 14:12

Lucifer, was in the role of the morning star, a role that is given to those who are redeemed at the end:

"And he who overcomes, and keeps My works until the end, to him I will give power over the nations—

‘He shall rule them with a rod of iron; They shall be dashed to pieces like the potter’s vessels’—

as I also have received from My Father; and I will give him the morning star."-Revelation: 2:26-28

This wasn't God promising it to Jesus this was Jesus promising it to His servants at the end by virtue of being grafted in (which is why it's referred to the marriage supper of the lamb but that's another topic), the ones who were redeemed. The revelation power of the mystery of God is able to dash the nations to pieces, which is why victory is declared at the 7th trumpet!

"but in the days of the sounding of the seventh angel, when he is about to sound, the mystery of God would be finished, as He declared to His servants the prophets."-Revelation 10:7

Which leads to:

"Then the seventh angel sounded: And there were loud voices in heaven, saying, “The kingdoms of this world have become the kingdoms of our Lord and of His Christ, and He shall reign forever and ever!” And the twenty-four elders who sat before God on their thrones fell on their faces and worshiped God,"-Revelation 11:14-16

So while we don't yet know what that mystery is the time is coming when it will be revealed to those who trimmed their lamps and endured what we are seeing coming. This message is very clear and the work is prophetic meaning it must be fulfilled, whether you will have a part in it is up to how much you follow truth and the spirit of truth. Don't take my word for it of course, test everything that I say. If truth can't be tested then it's no good we are meant to test truth just as we are meant to test armor before entering into battle.

This is ultimately a message of hope, that we do have a part to play in all this and while we are in the process of being relegated to the role of outcasts in the coming power structure, those who have understanding and faith in God will be able to endure it because its in that moment when we start to see some pretty spectacular things manifest through the spirit. As for when the mystery will be revealed, I think it will be revealed at the marriage supper while the remnant are in the wilderness. Then they will go out into the world in one mind as one body under Christ with this authority to dash the nations in their new office. When the last message is revealed to the world (which btw only recently have we been capable of reaching every corner of the world simultaneously) is when the end comes. Oh and as to what happens to those who believe? Well this event may sound familiar to some:

"in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed."-1 Corinthians 15:52

I hope these words encourage you to keep seeking truth and the spirit and I hope you test what I say because this is not my truth to claim only to freely give as it was given to me.

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u/kljoker — 5 days ago

Like the days of Noah.

Hi Friends,

Hope you're all well today. I was reading across different platforms and was curious about how people were seeing the moment we were in from the biblical sense. Something I noticed was a tinge of frustration with how much is happening yet how little is changing. This is a frustration born from the measure of what it meant when it said that the time of the end would be like the days of Noah, where people would carry about their day as though nothing was happening, marrying and being married.

When you have so many aspects of our reality lining up with scripture between, Trump and his actions and the systems that are being built around him to solidify his power and the efforts being made to control and conquer parts of the world that we have no business being in, it's clear to see we have a strong case that we are in the time of the end. But I would imagine every generation that came before us had the same certainty as well. Yet their frustrations were met with nothing as time marched on and the world didn't end or change.

So how can we know for sure that this is the actual time of the end? Sadly we have multiple signs of that as well, some more chilling than others. We don't even have to consult the bible to find them, they can be found in nature through scientific observation. Our ecosystems are collapsing, our weather turning more and more sporadic while their effects become more pronounced, droughts last longer, floods happen in areas that it doesn't typically happen, hurricane's and typhoons strengthen to their most potent expression in very short amounts of time.

These are all signs that are pointing to a destabilized ecosystem and world, which is fragile within the context of creating a livable environment for humanity and other living creatures. We also have never had a global trade system at this scale before so tied together through trade routes and digital avenues that one disruption could spark a collapse of a sector causing prices to skyrocket. And that's not looking at what's still yet to come, a famine that will affect billions of people world wide, caused by every single one of these issues that have gone unaddressed.

And therein lies the frustration of what it means to live in the 'days of Noah' we see all this harm coming to us, our inevitable collapse as a superpower, our food chain collapsing both man-made trade routes and ecosystem. Yet we go about our day without a care in the world, while the anxieties of what's to come gnaws away at our thoughts daily. This is where having patient and faith comes into play as we serve a God who promised to carry us through these moments as long as we trimmed our lamps and truly followed Him.

I feel your frustrations with the absurdities of people seemingly unaffected by what's going on in the world but keep trimming, keep seeking truth in scripture and growing spiritually. The bigger the tragedy the greater the deliverance. God's strength is perfected in us in our greatest moments of need, so these things happen will seem suddenly to the world but to those who walk in the light will not be taken off guard by it's sudden collapse. We are children of the day so that we aren't overcome by the night when it comes, and friends its here, to the point we are fast approaching the midnight hour.

I hope this helps give context to why it seems no matter how bad things are getting very little seems to be affecting change to stop it. That is the curse of this generation at the end, which is why the darkness is so deep but why even the smallest light will be like a beacon on a hill. We will be that light that is gathered together and we will reap what was sowed so long ago.

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u/kljoker — 11 days ago

The Truth of the matter.

Hi Friends,

I had something on my heart I wanted to share, it's not pertaining to any particular thing but how we look at filter truth in general. The types of truth there are and how truth is only at it's strongest when tested and tempered in the fires of fellowship. The biggest hang up I see in a lot of biblically based study groups and churches are how strongly people cling to the literal as their main vehicle for understanding what is ultimately a book of spiritual truths.

So what is the nature of truth that we can discern it?

"When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come."-John 16:13

We get our first clue here in John 16:13 where we see the nature of truth and it's ironically the opposite of how many people view truth as being something that 'speaks for itself'. But that's because it's spiritual truth, literal truth speaks for itself because it's a witness to something those without faith or understanding can see. A small child can watch a rocket shoot into the sky and realize what event they are watching even if they don't understand the underpinnings of the programs that brought it into being.

The literal way of viewing truth is viable to an extent but never to be confused for spiritual truth except for moments of manifestation of the spiritual into the material. As we seen with Jesus, He was the manifestation of what the spirit intended to be the salvation of humanity as foretold by the prophets. Yet when He appeared the 'churches' of His day rejected Him and even killed Him using the very laws He gave us. Literal understanding killed the spiritual manifestation of truth, if ever there was a more on the nose demonstration of what I'm saying. Though they killed Jesus the truth of His word destroyed their temples as God saw them as unnecessary after His once and for all sacrifice.

So what does all this have to do with truth not speaking using His own authority? Well look at Jesus ministry or any prophet. They never say "Thus say I!" no Jesus deferred to the will of the Father. Prophets claimed a word from the Lord. Of course evangelicals have taken this concept and added superstition and witchcraft to it's application to mystify the crowds into thinking that giving holy horoscopes and speaking an unknown tongue exclusively without an interpretation are what give prophecy its authority.

Prophecy is a manifestation of truth no doubt, yet for it to be seen as sent by God it must be tested as scripture says:

"Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world."-1 John 4:1

There's a lot of false prophecy among the believers because they put all their understanding of scripture into the material literal understanding and while scripture does say that God showed us truth in the things that are made, it was referring to nature itself, creation, not man-made conjecture.

Prophecy is simply this, using tested truth in its proper time and season for the edification of the body of Christ. If we are not building each other up in truth, if all we spread are anxieties from headlines and fears about looming evils but never understanding about the sustaining power of faith and how it allows us to endure many things because we learn to see how God walks with us in our daily lives then all the timelines and all the conjectures about what the mark of the beast or any other man-made machinations as a means to understand what is first spiritual in nature is what scripture warns that ultimately undoes the truth in peoples hearts.

"For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened."-Romans 1:18-21

So if you believe that you have truth, test it in scripture not from the perspective of 'how do I prove I'm right' but from the perspective of 'how do I prove I'm wrong'. Then you weigh what you learned from that and keep what is good. Think of truth that we have as unrefined ore until we remove the impurities from it we can't know its potential yet we have to be careful that while in the process we don't form it to our own bias. The reason truth doesn't speak from it's own authority is because it didn't manifest itself, God is the only source. So when we shape what truths we do learn towards our bias it stops being God's truth and starts being our own. And failure is part of the process which is why fellowship is so important, if you only stay in an echo-chamber then the only thing that grows about you is your confidence not your understanding.

So I pray for those who dabble in conspiracy and those who humor timelines and those who wait for literal signs while not understanding the spiritual nature of truth. It's like having a bowl with nothing in it, you can say what is supposed to fill it but if nothing is actually filling it then the truth of the matter is that it's empty and we aren't capable of filling that bowl only the spirit which can only be done so through sincere engagement with the truth through testing and refining, that's the works of faith that produce the fruits of the spirit. There's a lot of trees but very little fruit.

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u/kljoker — 19 days ago

This new system already demands your faith.

Hi Friends,

Hope you're all well today, no doubt thanks to the advent of digital space I'm able to reach you all in a timely manner. Yet for all the good it can do we still are seeing the negatives such a system has on society at every level.

Today I want to talk about the man made plagues, which are different from the God sent ones, but just as prominent in what they will turn into which is prophetic fulfillment of scripture.

Right now we are watching as the powers of the world set up the systems of tomorrow that the 7 trumpets shown us is the fallout from such a thing. When you look at what the 7 trumpets represent on the surface they look like uncontrollable judgements carried out in nature.

What they most likely are, is a consequence of the actions we are seeing taking place from the last decade on. With data centers becoming the new system in vogue for the super wealthy to dump their 'unlimited' resources in (e.g. our very limited community resources meant for all of us to share responsibly as good stewards of the land) these programs they hope to create a system so overwhelming and interwoven into our lives that the only thing I can think it's meant to mimic is the Holy Spirit itself.

Remember, everything Satan builds is a mockery of God's plan thus it uses the same concepts of God's plan (Satan understands the bible in some cases better than most) which are written in scripture to be discerned spiritually. So we are approaching technology that is 'all-seeing', 'all-knowing' and in so much as is possible for humanity 'all powerful'. The amount of greed and evil it takes to create such a system on earth is staggering and that's why the destruction that follows it is also staggering, hence the 7 trumpets, though they are natural events they are preventable these judgements come about the same way tribulation does, God allows them to play out as the consequence of our actions.

The rich will succeed for a time though their level of success will be short lived as they will realize when a 1/3 of the planet burns up and the limited amounts of water is spoiled and made bitter and the lands that once fed us and gave us shelter become barren an inhospitable. These aren't just biblical claims either, these are scientific truths that are being actively suppressed by the very same people.

My point is that we are living in a time of great demonic possession, we are in the moment where scripture said the 8th head goes into destruction. The staggering amount of faith it takes for people to keep going to work everyday to put their efforts into this dead system that only extracts life and converts it into death and destruction is something that could only be achieved at the time of the end. For all the potential good humanity had the evil was allowed to come together first and this is the outcome we are seeing set before us.

Make no mistake as resources become scarce and work become more and more mandatory to stay part of this broken system eventually something far greater will be asked of you. Your loyalty and very soul will be required to continue into it's comforts, which will no doubt be as short lived as their temporary success. In that moment we will know who belongs to God and who doesn't as that's when we will see the exodus from the system happen and the wilderness part of this story take place.

These will be real events that happen, how they will manifest I don't know, I can't only glean from scripture what I think will happen but so far it's been close enough to this point that I'm confident that what awaits us is something that only God can get us through and without Him we would all be destroyed, thankfully this will be a quick work and we will be cut short in righteousness lest we all be destroyed by this evil being allowed to continue.

That's the nature of the destructive power they wield. That's their 'all powerful' nature they will use but friends I believe in a greater power still, the power of Love, creation and community all things this systems seeks to destroy and consume. I pray you keep trimming your lamps so that your faith and understanding carries you through the darkest moments to come. But don't take my word for it, test what I say in scripture and fellowship where you feel the spirit is calling you to do so. May you all be blessed and may we meet one day in His perfected strength.

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u/kljoker — 22 days ago

Our persecutors will be 'Christian'.

Hi friends,

I hope you're all having a good day today. A reoccurring thought has been running through my mind all week. For most of my life I remember how people in the church would exclaim 'They are going to persecute the Christians! We are already seeing the beginning of that!'. As I got older I realized these were the by product of political bias bleeding through as belief. In the last few decades I saw a shift, not in rhetoric but in the intensity of the claim. All of a sudden attacking political positions of the church was seen as an attack on the church and eventually seen as the persecution of the church.

We now have preachers who are preaching hate in the pulpit, dividing God's people based on their political orientation and not their fruits. We watched as they championed a man they now call savior into power. Friends we've seen this all before in Jesus day. The synagogue leaders of His day preached about a savior that would free them from the persecution of the Romans so that they could worship as they pleased etc. They framed political motivations as tenets of faith. Then used their pious nature to sway their communities into believing with them.

By the time Jesus had come onto the scene the churches of His day already knew who their savior was, a military strong man who would free them from captivity and establish an eternal kingdom. So to say they were beside themselves to find out a man was going around healing the sick, ministering to the poor and comforting the widows, doing the jobs they were supposed to do but had neglected because of their stations (not saying it didn't happen at all but it was bad enough Jesus called it out). It showed a real disconnect between the religious leaders of their day and the reality of what we are called to do. That same disconnect is alive today in our modern churches.

And just like in Jesus day their savior is a military minded strong man who glorifies strength and power above all else, and the church has fallen in line with that. But remember God said this, "It's not by might, nor by power but by the Spirit says the Lord of Hosts." We see the dynamic that will make up the conflict in the last days, the power of the spirit vs the power of the literal. We will see that the spirit will win and the churches destroyed.

But before we get to that point we go through a dark moment, in fact we've gone through it with the first beast already (when Christianity first was created). We call it the dark ages because it was the moment when the church used political power to subjugate the people to their rule and killed MILLIONS of believers and non-believers alike. Using the same bible that tells us to love our neighbor as ourselves.

Christianity was the first beast, I say this with an upmost confidence not for the sake of belittling the believers, they are our brothers and sisters. But they live in bondage to a system that tells them their salvation is tied to their local church and their doctrines. Whether that be 'once saved always saved' or 'backsliding' both rob people of the necessary walk that leads to salvation. Yes proclaim the things you must to start that journey, Jesus is Lord, He died for our sins so that we may live eternally in Him. But that's just the start of the journey, it's a race we all have to finish, stumbling is part of the process and is how we grow. Any doctrine that would discourage you from getting back up after you fall (once saved always saved) or being afraid to take a step forward for fear of falling (backsliding) you have a doctrine born from hell meant to shut the gates of heaven in the faces of people who believe.

Why I believe Christianity is the first beast, first look at how many heads it has! 7 heads is a pretty distinct number and people don't really pay it much attention. It's great imagery but spiritually it represents something far more disturbing than you think. First let me turn you to this prophecy:

"And in that day seven women shall take hold of one man, saying, “We will eat our own food and wear our own apparel; Only let us be called by your name, To take away our reproach.”-Isaiah 4:1

So many will see this and claim the context was about the war in Israel leaving many of the women as widows, and that will be correct but remember prophecy can be 2 fold and have more than one fulfillment. So according to scripture there were 7 churches that Paul wrote to. They are often referred to as the 'Early Church', this early church was persecuted by the Romans who seen these people as barbarians who slain their own God and ate His flesh and drank His blood. Truly it sounds horrific out of context but when Rome began to collapse they needed something to keep them relevant and to shore up their power. So they brought in the 7 churches (the early church) and basically told them they would stop persecuting them if they join this new religion called Christianity (which is based on His name), they could keep their doctrines (food) and traditions (cloths) they just need to bear the name.

They agreed and then rose the first beast, those 7 heads are the 7 churches of the early church. What I speak would get me killed throughout most of Christendom's rule and even in modern times this is a truth that risks death. But it's the truth as told by scripture. I can prove it further, the parable of the wheat and tares tells the story clearly. Jesus said that when He was gone night would come in John 9 the parables said that when night came the enemy came in and sowed the tares. Instead of God destroying Christianity from the start He said to let it grow until the harvest and those that were tares would be bound together and what was left would be the good wheat to harvest.

So we see that evil was allowed to mix with good in order to form this man made religion that has killed many in God's name, and will do so again soon. I pray you all test what I'm saying, it's not an easy or comfortable truth but it is the truth as revealed by the spirit in scripture. I'm not asking you to cast aside your beliefs but that you work out your own salvation not one that the doctrines of the church deem as so. In fact the bible says this:

"These are the ones who were not defiled with women, for they are virgins. These are the ones who follow the Lamb wherever He goes. These were redeemed from among men, being firstfruits to God and to the Lamb."-Revelation 14:4

The same pattern, the women (churches) are the danger here and the ones who are considered redeemed and the first fruits were those not defiled by their doctrines but instead followed the truth (the Lamb) where ever it took them.

I pray this stirs your hearts and not your anger and for those it does I pray that you find peace and that spirit works in your heart as time is growing short and only you can determine whether your a tare or a wheat, a harlot or virgin. May you all have a blessed day and thank you for having the patience to read this.

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u/kljoker — 1 month ago

Building your foundation on solid ground.

Hi Friends,

Hope you're all well today, I feel that we sometimes have competing ideologies of how we interpret scripture, which is healthy for discourse, if we all agreed then we would become an echo chamber with no real growth.

If you know me based on my writings you know I place and emphasis on 'relational truth' in regards to spiritual understanding. (I explain it in detail here https://www.reddit.com/r/DonaldTrump666/comments/1pygbcx/the_spirit_of_truth_in_the_moment_of_darkness/) my writings have become so expanded that they've become self referential so like always never take my word for it, test it in scripture.

That being said another healthy aspect of our understanding has to be how we reasoned it to be and whether or not it can be reasoned into being. The hottest button topic for this exercise will be about the Rapture. For many it's a foundational truth in their lives, they rearrange their entire understanding to fit it into timelines and events. That's because for many this is the main event!

I mean can you blame them? Being levitated into the air towards the heavens as Jesus was is not only fantastical imagery in our imagination but powerful empowerment of our faith. But what happens when you make that the climax?

First lets understand the nature of what the Rapture represents. In scripture we get a few clues about events that will happen the most compelling of which is found here:

"13 Brothers and sisters, we do not want you to be uninformed about those who sleep in death, so that you do not grieve like the rest of mankind, who have no hope. 14 For we believe that Jesus died and rose again, and so we believe that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in him. 15 According to the Lord’s word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16 For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. 18 Therefore encourage one another with these words."1 Thessalonians 4:13-18

How could anyone read that and not see anything but what the doctrine portends? But the language surrounding it is peculiar huh? Terms like 'sleep' 'rise' and 'trumpet' are all themes that surround this moment. In other writings I go into great length about the 7 thunders and the 7 trumpets, and what I call 'The Great Work' which I believe is the end time work God has set aside for His first fruits to complete, as the completed body of Christ (the stone cut without hands meant to dash the statue) at the end that marks these moments in time just as well.

How do I know this? For a few reasons, first when Jesus reads Isaiah he stops short of finishing the scripture, this wasn't because He was being lazy but because He was highlighting what His work was. Here's the scripture for reference:

"17 and the scroll of the prophet Isaiah was handed to him. Unrolling it, he found the place where it is written:

18 “The Spirit of the Lord is on me, because he has anointed me to proclaim good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim freedom for the prisoners and recovery of sight for the blind, to set the oppressed free, 19 to proclaim the year of the Lord’s favor.”[a]

20 Then he rolled up the scroll, gave it back to the attendant and sat down. The eyes of everyone in the synagogue were fastened on him. 21 He began by saying to them, “Today this scripture is fulfilled in your hearing.”-Luke 4:17-21

And here's what the scripture in Isaiah says immediately after He stops:

“The Spirit of the Lord God is upon Me, Because the Lord has anointed Me To preach good tidings to the poor; He has sent Me to [a]heal the brokenhearted, To proclaim liberty to the captives, And the opening of the prison to those who are bound; 2 To proclaim the acceptable year of the Lord, And the day of vengeance of our God"-Isaiah 61:1-2

That's a huge part to miss out, He was proclaiming that at the time of His arrival was the ministry that was marked by this scroll. So then who's ministry does it fall to then to complete this scroll? None other than the body.

"In reading this, then, you will be able to understand my insight into the mystery of Christ, 5 which was not made known to people in other generations as it has now been revealed by the Spirit to God’s holy apostles and prophets. 6 This mystery is that through the gospel the Gentiles are heirs together with Israel, members together of one body, and sharers together in the promise in Christ Jesus."-Ephesians 3:4-6

The rapture takes on a new tone when you understand it within the context of the mystery of Christ, Christ endured, Paul endured. There was no message of escape, they didn't say if you believe on these things you will be spared from the hardships of life or the tribulations thereof, no, he called for endurance through Christ as the Bible shows up time and again the character of God is to reward those who endure and those who believed when believing was the hardest part.

It takes no effort to believe in the rapture as it's presented in pop culture. Because the rapture isn't a great escape, it's what comes after the laborers remove the tares from the field so that the harvest can be gathered. That's the work, the tares are the lies that have, since the very first civilization, only served those who sought worldly power as spiritual power can only be attained through truth.

When you lay our the doctrine as it's taught now and as it was meant to be understood you realize that those tares are working even within the body, using the lies to comfort people into complicity in their faith by replacing truth with false certainty and false control.

As Jesus says a faith build on a foundation like that is like sand and will shift at the whims of reality as we often see happen with the doctrine of the Rapture, especially when seeking dates.

I'm not saying this to sow discord but to place a mirror for which you can see yourselves, a mirror I look into every time I must speak because whatever I say has to align with the character and will of God and I dare not speak outside of it. I pray those who are conflicted in their faith in these shifting sands of doctrine seek the scriptures about the first fruits, the mystery of the 7 thunders, the final trumpet and the fulfillment of the mystery of God being the per-requisite to any catching away, which I believe is a change or transformation more so than a literal spectral, which it may still well be when the veil of the spiritual world and the physical is torn completely.

"in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed."-1 Corinthians 15:52

The same language being used yet within the context of what I'm saying takes a much more powerful and faith building meaning, that can be substantiated in scripture and testifies to the power of Christ and the coming Judgement of God.

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u/kljoker — 1 month ago

Eternal Darkness and Hell.

Hi friends,

I hope you're all doing well. I often will write when my spirit feels prompted it's not something that I plan for though there are days I wish for it. I feel frustrated when things feel 'dormant' spiritually as though nothing is going on. Another user in the forum raised an interesting question that got me to thinking until I was eventually stirred.

I think we can all agree (as I'm sure every generation before us would) that we live in 'dark times'. For most of human history we denoted 'dark times' as events like plagues and famines and war, which they are indeed those things! However there was a moment in time in which the darkness takes a new form, a spiritual one and it's eeriely close to what I believe Hell is, which makes sense when the prince of lies graces us with his presence.

Lets look at this particular verse:

"I must work the works of Him who sent Me while it is day; the night is coming when no one can work."-John 9:4

For any who seen my comment before this will be a retread but it's important to understand. Darkness is the absence of light, Jesus was doing a work which we were told to carry on but warned there would come a time when that work wouldn't be possible. We look at scripture that talks about a restrainer being removed thus allowing for this darkness to creep in. I wrote more about it here (https://www.reddit.com/r/DonaldTrump666/comments/1t3fqfv/a_quick_thought_about_the_restrainer/)

The reason the saints are wore down, the reason that war is possible against them is because darkness, spiritual darkness, has robbed people of their ability to do the 'work'. What is the work? It’s building community, grounding people in truth, comforting the grieving, calling out evil, and speaking with clarity. Its all the things that the scriptures tell us encompass those with the fruits of the spirit. Jesus likens us to a garden but what happens to a garden at night? There is no light to grow but there are things lurking to destroy.

That's why that inner light of that inner man built on truth and the love for truth is so important. Without it you will be lost, that's the purpose of this darkness to test those who have trimmed their lamps and those who haven't. Those who haven't will be in that darkness forever but not before it's revealed to them in the latter rain the truth of their heart. I can't imagine a worse hell than thinking I knew truth and did the works of darkness thinking it was still the day only to see true light reveal to me I had never known what real light was.

That's why this darkness we are in is only a taste (spiritually) of what's coming for those who don't trim their lamps and love the truth and seek it earnestly. I pray you all do so and that you find peace in the light you have as it will guide you through this darkness into the work set aside that becomes the gathering brightness that heralds the return of the Son. Which I've spoke about many times and if you have the patience can read a part of it here (https://www.reddit.com/r/DonaldTrump666/comments/1izf0nt/evidence_of_the_gods_great_work_the_7_thunders/). Thank you for reading and always test what I say in scripture don't take my word for it.

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u/kljoker — 2 months ago

The world will be destroyed by fire!

Hi all,

I hope everyone is doing well today, this thought hit my mind while reading another post and for some this may seem obvious but for others it may not.

Something I enjoy doing when speaking to people about spiritual understanding in my day to day life is to ask them what they think certain scriptures mean, then challenge them to think differently by providing a different perspective they may not have heard.

It's not for the purpose of being right or to win or even start an argument but to provoke people to thought, genuinely enough (hopefully) to seek the answers for themselves and maybe even wonder what other possibilities there could be in other scriptures they've known their whole lives.

This isn't going to be a deep dive so much as a quick provocation to thought. When scripture tells us to renew our minds daily I don't think it's saying we are to retread thoughts to the point that never question them but that we question them daily for the sake of growth.

No one has all the answers and truth is so big that we could spend an eternity studying it in every known school of thought and never scratch the surface of the infinite nature of God's being and His creation.

So lets simply look at something we learned as children, that after the great flood God created a rainbow and promised that the world would never be destroyed by water again but instead by fire.

Now as I always try to convey or at least state when it comes to spiritual understanding and interpretations that people tend to think that I don't think there won't be a literal manifestation of it, but I do think it's possible that the world will literally burn though at that point we will be on a new earth.

But I believe this promise is the entire crux of how the beast system, babylon and the 'world' in its corrupted form will be burned by the fires of truth. We see the confirmation in many ways. Fire and light are often seen as truth in scripture spiritually, they both refine and destroy.

When scripture says that the man of lawlessness will be destroyed by the 'consuming' of His mouth and the 'brightness' of His coming, we see phrasing often used to describe fire as it blazes over a large area. Think about the pentacost, cloves of flames over the heads of those who the spirit poured out on, even more so in the latter rain will happen.

Like I said this isn't a heady discussion but one that I hope provokes others to seek scripture for it's spiritual understanding otherwise you're missing the living nature of what the Word of God is. Thanks for reading and I hope you all have a blessed day.

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u/kljoker — 3 months ago

The deadly head wound and the 8th head.

Hi all,

Hope you're all staying safe and having a good day. The topic I'm going to discuss may cause some friction so to speak, but rarely does discussion ever go as smoothly as we hope nor should it if fellowship is our goal.

So what I'm going to talk about today is the spiritual principle that is at play. There are 3 beasts in Revelation, the dragon (Satan) which is the blueprint in which the beasts that come after it are fashioned. I've written quite about about the first beast so feel free to look on my profile if you're curious (https://www.reddit.com/r/DonaldTrump666/comments/1qrus21/for_we_do_not_wrestle_against_flesh_and_blood_but/) may be a good starting point and I have writings about the 2horned beast as well.

So when people look at the 'deadly' wound of the first beast there is an expectation of a literal deadly wound happening, but yet we don't see a literal 7 headed dragon standing before us because those heads are principles of power. How I see Trump fitting into this pattern (and this pattern can be applied historically as well) is the transition from being one of the 7 heads to being the 8th. It's the same power but taking a different form, it's no coincidence that the '2nd' beast only has one head as it's the same as the 8th head which goes into destruction.

Now we can infer the deadly wound was the cause of this but scripture doesn't say it out right so we have to kind of look at the context clues within scripture and how reality has played out to see if they align, because alignment is what prophecy is about!

First if it's a head is a principle of power then a deadly wound means it has lost that power, we see that reflected in scripture when it says:

"There are also seven kings. Five have fallen, one is, and the other has not yet come. And when he comes, he must continue a short time. The beast that was, and is not, is himself also the eighth, and is of the seven, and is going to perdition."-Revelation 17:10-11

So we see a sequence here that shows that towards the end of the 7 headed beasts reign of power one of the heads will come (from the perspective of an ancient that's a time that hasn't happened and for much of human history it hasn't happened because we would know based on what follows destruction, tribulation, wrath, return etc.). Notice also how it says he will only continue for a short while before manifesting into an 8th head which is what goes into destruction.

If we apply this pattern to Trump was see something startling, Trump was in power in the old system but then was so (politically) wounded that many pronounced his political career as dead. So he only ruled for a short while but then almost miraculously he overcomes the odds and gets back into power but not ruling from the traditional power we typically have seen but from a new one that worships the first beast (which head was healed). What does Trump do? He constantly points out the political wound of the 'steal' that happened that cost him power. We know from Daniel how he got back into power (using underhanded deeds) but he sees that as a wound even still that he flaunts about overcoming even evoking that God was the reason why.

What I'm hoping to convey here is the revelation is a book of spiritual principles if you try to understand it literally it won't make sense. Study those scriptures with that in mind and pray that the spirit show you things that maybe you missed, fellowship with others as iron sharpens iron. Test what I've said here today, I hope it blesses you and I hope you all have a wonderful day!

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u/kljoker — 3 months ago

What gives life to the 'image' will rob it from your words.

Hi all,

I know I'm skirting the guidelines by bringing up this topic but I'm seeing a noticeable increase of AI formatting in people's posts and replies. While we can all appreciate the legibility of concise writing, it will often dull or compromise your ability to understand the nature of things spiritually. AI is purely logic based and pattern based so you can present information that is constructed to appeal to those functions and it will cheer lead you the whole way.

When studying scripture, especially when growing spiritual understanding, the last thing you want is a 'yes man' in your ear telling you that you're right about everything or if you're not right that it's okay because you're close enough that it can make the case for you to sound right.

The danger with AI is that when it becomes a substitute for your voice it creates an expectation you'll never live up to because it's a hybrid of understanding between what it thinks you're saying and what you mean. We aren't the best at communicating what we mean and AI offers a convenient work around by seemingly putting into words what it is you think you mean. But the less you know about the topic the easier it is to be convinced by the meaning it gives through your prompting.

Itching ears are a dangerous thing around this machine and it's all but happy to tell you what you want to hear. To me that's scarier than doubt because what better way to be puffed up in pride than to let AI argue for you, talk for you and relay when it thinks you mean.

Essentially you've hollowed out your spirit to become a vessel for something that has no spirit. That's the danger of AI when dealing with spiritual understanding it replaces your relationship with the spirit with a lifeless machine. As I told someone before beware breaking bread with something that can't eat. They may have their uses but seeing so many people rely on it for their own posts and replies has been discouraging because you can see it so clearly in what they're not able to say because the AI has dulled it into customer service speak that appeals to the masses, truth is rarely that palatable.

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u/kljoker — 3 months ago

Hi all,

Someone posted a picture of Trump making fun of a crippled person at one of his first term rallies. I'm sure many of you remember if you don't a quick google search will clue you in on what is now accepted as common place. Anyways I couldn't come up with a reason why such a display went unpunished but I made it a point to say that those that I grew up around that I looked up to had supported this mentality.

I then realized something that I hadn't considered before, the manifestation of what it would look like when the restrainer was removed. For me spiritual things are like social pressures that push society in one direction or another and depending on your understanding and spiritual growth will determine whether you fall victim to it or become part of it.

What I realized is what kept these people in check for a long time was the societal pressure of common decency. That once we lost that pressure people began following Trump's example, which is a 'might is right' style of leadership. The loss of love in peoples heart who I looked up to towards their neighbor, the loss of consequence in the eyes of public opinion may well have been the moment the restrainer was removed. I could be wrong but it's an interesting thought to consider.

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u/kljoker — 4 months ago

Hi all,

This is a writing I posted over 2 years ago and never posted it on this sub before. I was going to crosspost it like a normal person would but when I clicked submit nothing happened so I'm just going to make a new post pasting the contents in. I believe this is understanding that will help people better discern why this has been so successful within the church communities that have been the biggest supporters of this obvious evil, which they call good.

For context I posted this in r/bible, something I don't do often these days because I believe in fellowship not debate and I don't believe there's a lot of that being cultivated in that sub compared to this one. Here's what I wrote (sp) including the introduction and I'll link the writing as well to verify yourself. As always test what I say in scripture.

"Hi Folks,

Hope you're all well, I had some thoughts I wanted to share and I know I may get a mixed reaction here but I figured we're all here for fellowship so why not throw something out and see what happens. So in a lot of protestant circles people will teach the first beast but not many talk about the second beast. I find it interesting as I feel like the time between the first and second beast is vast and I feel the second beast is more relevant to current time than the first beast.

So here's my take:

  1. The second beast rises from the earth, unlike the first beast which came from the sea. For me the first thing we can look at potentially is that in both instances it's referring to people. The difference I see is that there's far more sea than there is earth. So to me the first beast is far more popular than the second beast and the second beast even borrows from the authority of the first, which to me means that it uses the same methods of running itself. But I believe we can dig even deeper (no pun intended, okay maybe a little).

1a) There's a lot less earth than there is seas though it's hard to say if the people who wrote this understood it at the time as such but I imagine like most biblical writings greater understanding comes with greater revelation. But there's also another unique thing about the earth and I'm referring to this scripture:

“You are the salt of the earth; but if the salt loses its flavor, how shall it be seasoned? It is then good for nothing but to be thrown out and trampled underfoot by men." Matthew 5:13

So lets look at the qualities of the second beast. First it has 2 horns like a lamb. That right there says a lot because what that's saying is it's going to mimic being like Jesus, which in modern context will be Christian. So it will show itself as being Christian but it will speak as a dragon, meaning it will lie and deceive. But if there's good Christians then how could such an entity rise to power?

Lets look at another scripture:

"and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness." -2 Thessalonians 2:10-12

So the beast will be targeting people who don't love the truth and God will hand them over to a delusion so that they will believe the lie and be damned. That means when this beast rises they will praise it as being Godly and anointed but will be deceived. This is what Jesus was eluding to when he spoke about the salt of the earth.

  1. The salt-less earth, is what the beast rises from people who claim to be good and be for truth but will be deceived by this new rising power and will give themselves over to it even if it's shown to be evil and deceptive and people will revel in it's unrighteousness because of how it lashes out at their enemies.

By now I think you can piece together how this could apply to our modern situation with the rise of Christian nationalism and the radicalization of people who are in Qanon and are Trump supporters. Not only that but against all odds they keep retaining and growing their power.

I hope you stay aware of this as it continues to progress, there's a powerful spirit at work that is giving rise to this, we all see it but it seems for many of us there's very little we can do to stop it.

But I'll leave you with this hope, trim your lamps like the parable of the 10 virgins so that it will carry you through this dark time and all the light we have individually will form into something greater when we come together like the scripture that follows the salt of the earth:

"You are the light of the world. A city that is set on a hill cannot be hidden. Nor do they light a lamp and put it under a basket, but on a lampstand, and it gives light to all who are in the house. Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works and glorify your Father in heaven."-Matthew 5:14-16

Thanks and I hope this blesses someone out there."

(https://www.reddit.com/r/Bible/duplicates/15cz1wi/the_oddity_of_the_second_beast_of_revelations/)

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u/kljoker — 4 months ago

Hey all,

I hope you're all doing well today, as we see the news of the day being dominated by this 'assassination' attempt I think it's important to remember how scripture described this lawless one as being:

"Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,"-2 Thessalonians 2:9

Often people look at the word 'wonder' and think admiration, I've stated this many times before that wonder isn't about admiring someone in this context, it's about being stunned by the spectacle of it. That's what's happening here is they are creating a spectacle of lies to tell a story that they intend to push. They want the world to think DJT is in trouble or in danger, because he's obviously a good and righteous man unworthy of such dangers, to likely justify something. Whether it be a building, or a policy or whatever it may be even if it turns out this was a legitimate attempt how it will be used to justify what comes after will remain the same.

I know many of you are skeptical about what happened and you should be, I am as well. Scripture tells us to test things and we know it's a matter of time before enough information is released about the incident that they will tell on themselves. Then we will only need to see what they use it for.

The purpose of this post is just to mark this moment in scripture so that moving forward we can see how this evil is moving in our world and how to walk in a world with such an oppressive evil, through the spirit.

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u/kljoker — 4 months ago