u/kljoker

Hi all,

Hope you're all staying safe and having a good day. The topic I'm going to discuss may cause some friction so to speak, but rarely does discussion ever go as smoothly as we hope nor should it if fellowship is our goal.

So what I'm going to talk about today is the spiritual principle that is at play. There are 3 beasts in Revelation, the dragon (Satan) which is the blueprint in which the beasts that come after it are fashioned. I've written quite about about the first beast so feel free to look on my profile if you're curious (https://www.reddit.com/r/DonaldTrump666/comments/1qrus21/for_we_do_not_wrestle_against_flesh_and_blood_but/) may be a good starting point and I have writings about the 2horned beast as well.

So when people look at the 'deadly' wound of the first beast there is an expectation of a literal deadly wound happening, but yet we don't see a literal 7 headed dragon standing before us because those heads are principles of power. How I see Trump fitting into this pattern (and this pattern can be applied historically as well) is the transition from being one of the 7 heads to being the 8th. It's the same power but taking a different form, it's no coincidence that the '2nd' beast only has one head as it's the same as the 8th head which goes into destruction.

Now we can infer the deadly wound was the cause of this but scripture doesn't say it out right so we have to kind of look at the context clues within scripture and how reality has played out to see if they align, because alignment is what prophecy is about!

First if it's a head is a principle of power then a deadly wound means it has lost that power, we see that reflected in scripture when it says:

"There are also seven kings. Five have fallen, one is, and the other has not yet come. And when he comes, he must continue a short time. The beast that was, and is not, is himself also the eighth, and is of the seven, and is going to perdition."-Revelation 17:10-11

So we see a sequence here that shows that towards the end of the 7 headed beasts reign of power one of the heads will come (from the perspective of an ancient that's a time that hasn't happened and for much of human history it hasn't happened because we would know based on what follows destruction, tribulation, wrath, return etc.). Notice also how it says he will only continue for a short while before manifesting into an 8th head which is what goes into destruction.

If we apply this pattern to Trump was see something startling, Trump was in power in the old system but then was so (politically) wounded that many pronounced his political career as dead. So he only ruled for a short while but then almost miraculously he overcomes the odds and gets back into power but not ruling from the traditional power we typically have seen but from a new one that worships the first beast (which head was healed). What does Trump do? He constantly points out the political wound of the 'steal' that happened that cost him power. We know from Daniel how he got back into power (using underhanded deeds) but he sees that as a wound even still that he flaunts about overcoming even evoking that God was the reason why.

What I'm hoping to convey here is the revelation is a book of spiritual principles if you try to understand it literally it won't make sense. Study those scriptures with that in mind and pray that the spirit show you things that maybe you missed, fellowship with others as iron sharpens iron. Test what I've said here today, I hope it blesses you and I hope you all have a wonderful day!

Hi all,

I know I'm skirting the guidelines by bringing up this topic but I'm seeing a noticeable increase of AI formatting in people's posts and replies. While we can all appreciate the legibility of concise writing, it will often dull or compromise your ability to understand the nature of things spiritually. AI is purely logic based and pattern based so you can present information that is constructed to appeal to those functions and it will cheer lead you the whole way.

When studying scripture, especially when growing spiritual understanding, the last thing you want is a 'yes man' in your ear telling you that you're right about everything or if you're not right that it's okay because you're close enough that it can make the case for you to sound right.

The danger with AI is that when it becomes a substitute for your voice it creates an expectation you'll never live up to because it's a hybrid of understanding between what it thinks you're saying and what you mean. We aren't the best at communicating what we mean and AI offers a convenient work around by seemingly putting into words what it is you think you mean. But the less you know about the topic the easier it is to be convinced by the meaning it gives through your prompting.

Itching ears are a dangerous thing around this machine and it's all but happy to tell you what you want to hear. To me that's scarier than doubt because what better way to be puffed up in pride than to let AI argue for you, talk for you and relay when it thinks you mean.

Essentially you've hollowed out your spirit to become a vessel for something that has no spirit. That's the danger of AI when dealing with spiritual understanding it replaces your relationship with the spirit with a lifeless machine. As I told someone before beware breaking bread with something that can't eat. They may have their uses but seeing so many people rely on it for their own posts and replies has been discouraging because you can see it so clearly in what they're not able to say because the AI has dulled it into customer service speak that appeals to the masses, truth is rarely that palatable.

Hi all,

Someone posted a picture of Trump making fun of a crippled person at one of his first term rallies. I'm sure many of you remember if you don't a quick google search will clue you in on what is now accepted as common place. Anyways I couldn't come up with a reason why such a display went unpunished but I made it a point to say that those that I grew up around that I looked up to had supported this mentality.

I then realized something that I hadn't considered before, the manifestation of what it would look like when the restrainer was removed. For me spiritual things are like social pressures that push society in one direction or another and depending on your understanding and spiritual growth will determine whether you fall victim to it or become part of it.

What I realized is what kept these people in check for a long time was the societal pressure of common decency. That once we lost that pressure people began following Trump's example, which is a 'might is right' style of leadership. The loss of love in peoples heart who I looked up to towards their neighbor, the loss of consequence in the eyes of public opinion may well have been the moment the restrainer was removed. I could be wrong but it's an interesting thought to consider.

Hi all,

This is a writing I posted over 2 years ago and never posted it on this sub before. I was going to crosspost it like a normal person would but when I clicked submit nothing happened so I'm just going to make a new post pasting the contents in. I believe this is understanding that will help people better discern why this has been so successful within the church communities that have been the biggest supporters of this obvious evil, which they call good.

For context I posted this in r/bible, something I don't do often these days because I believe in fellowship not debate and I don't believe there's a lot of that being cultivated in that sub compared to this one. Here's what I wrote (sp) including the introduction and I'll link the writing as well to verify yourself. As always test what I say in scripture.

"Hi Folks,

Hope you're all well, I had some thoughts I wanted to share and I know I may get a mixed reaction here but I figured we're all here for fellowship so why not throw something out and see what happens. So in a lot of protestant circles people will teach the first beast but not many talk about the second beast. I find it interesting as I feel like the time between the first and second beast is vast and I feel the second beast is more relevant to current time than the first beast.

So here's my take:

1. The second beast rises from the earth, unlike the first beast which came from the sea. For me the first thing we can look at potentially is that in both instances it's referring to people. The difference I see is that there's far more sea than there is earth. So to me the first beast is far more popular than the second beast and the second beast even borrows from the authority of the first, which to me means that it uses the same methods of running itself. But I believe we can dig even deeper (no pun intended, okay maybe a little).

1a) There's a lot less earth than there is seas though it's hard to say if the people who wrote this understood it at the time as such but I imagine like most biblical writings greater understanding comes with greater revelation. But there's also another unique thing about the earth and I'm referring to this scripture:

“You are the salt of the earth; but if the salt loses its flavor, how shall it be seasoned? It is then good for nothing but to be thrown out and trampled underfoot by men." Matthew 5:13

So lets look at the qualities of the second beast. First it has 2 horns like a lamb. That right there says a lot because what that's saying is it's going to mimic being like Jesus, which in modern context will be Christian. So it will show itself as being Christian but it will speak as a dragon, meaning it will lie and deceive. But if there's good Christians then how could such an entity rise to power?

Lets look at another scripture:

"and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness." -2 Thessalonians 2:10-12

So the beast will be targeting people who don't love the truth and God will hand them over to a delusion so that they will believe the lie and be damned. That means when this beast rises they will praise it as being Godly and anointed but will be deceived. This is what Jesus was eluding to when he spoke about the salt of the earth.

2. The salt-less earth, is what the beast rises from people who claim to be good and be for truth but will be deceived by this new rising power and will give themselves over to it even if it's shown to be evil and deceptive and people will revel in it's unrighteousness because of how it lashes out at their enemies.

By now I think you can piece together how this could apply to our modern situation with the rise of Christian nationalism and the radicalization of people who are in Qanon and are Trump supporters. Not only that but against all odds they keep retaining and growing their power.

I hope you stay aware of this as it continues to progress, there's a powerful spirit at work that is giving rise to this, we all see it but it seems for many of us there's very little we can do to stop it.

But I'll leave you with this hope, trim your lamps like the parable of the 10 virgins so that it will carry you through this dark time and all the light we have individually will form into something greater when we come together like the scripture that follows the salt of the earth:

"You are the light of the world. A city that is set on a hill cannot be hidden. Nor do they light a lamp and put it under a basket, but on a lampstand, and it gives light to all who are in the house. Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works and glorify your Father in heaven."-Matthew 5:14-16

Thanks and I hope this blesses someone out there."

(https://www.reddit.com/r/Bible/duplicates/15cz1wi/the_oddity_of_the_second_beast_of_revelations/)

Hey all,

I hope you're all doing well today, as we see the news of the day being dominated by this 'assassination' attempt I think it's important to remember how scripture described this lawless one as being:

"Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,"-2 Thessalonians 2:9

Often people look at the word 'wonder' and think admiration, I've stated this many times before that wonder isn't about admiring someone in this context, it's about being stunned by the spectacle of it. That's what's happening here is they are creating a spectacle of lies to tell a story that they intend to push. They want the world to think DJT is in trouble or in danger, because he's obviously a good and righteous man unworthy of such dangers, to likely justify something. Whether it be a building, or a policy or whatever it may be even if it turns out this was a legitimate attempt how it will be used to justify what comes after will remain the same.

I know many of you are skeptical about what happened and you should be, I am as well. Scripture tells us to test things and we know it's a matter of time before enough information is released about the incident that they will tell on themselves. Then we will only need to see what they use it for.

The purpose of this post is just to mark this moment in scripture so that moving forward we can see how this evil is moving in our world and how to walk in a world with such an oppressive evil, through the spirit.