u/largese

Seriously. Forced training, almost nonexistent guidance, everyone carrying two or three roles, and there are always fake fabricated crises because managers don't want to just decide and be done with it. Then somehow management is shocked when new people leave after 18 months or less.

Has most office work become like this now, or do I just have bad luck? Maybe there are fields that are organized and know what they're doing? I know job-hopping has become much more normal now, and I'm slowly turning into a frog being boiled on low heat.

I'm saying this because I genuinely want the best for you: ask for a higher salary. You have the right to do that. Even if they say no, you're still in the same place you were before you asked. I know most posts here are people looking for advice, but I'm just going to give you advice and that's it.

Most of the time, the offer you get is not the highest number in their range. It's usually closer to the lower end of what they were already planning to spend, especially for women. It sucks to say this, but we really do get lowballed more than men, and they're often expecting you to just accept. But roughly 8 times out of 10, if you ask respectfully, there's room to negotiate. If you don't ask, you could literally be giving up money that was available in the first place.

So here's a simple template you can adjust when you receive an offer email.

"Hello (hiring manager),

Thank you so much for the offer, I really appreciate the opportunity.

Before moving forward, I wanted to ask whether there is any flexibility in the compensation for this position. After looking over the offer and taking into account the cost of living in (city), typical pay for comparable roles, and (add a quick note about your experience/skills that make you valuable), I would feel more comfortable with a range of (salary range). I'm confident I can bring strong value to the team, and I'd be happy to find a number that feels fair for both sides.

Thank you again for the opportunity, I'm excited about the possibility of working together."

That's it. Seriously. Ask the question. And get the highest pay you can.

Unemployment keeps rising. People can barely cover food for the household and rent.
And somehow we've reached this stage: entire factories being raided and shut down because the employees are the "wrong" kind of white people.

The way employers drag out the hiring process for average salaries is truly incomprehensible to me.
I mean, has anyone gone through 4 or more interview stages for a mid-level position and felt in the end that the effort was worth it? Honestly, I feel like it drains my energy so much for such a small reward at the end.

This story isn't about the interview itself so if there's a better place to post this please let me know and I'll delete it here.

I applied internally for a temporary "special assignment" supervisor position. The position is being rushed to be filled because it's needed immediately, I mention this because one of the requirements to interview was apparently to have a presentation of some kind prepared. They did not inform me I needed a presentation and they said they were skipping that step, but they wanted me to give a short speech on a safety topic.

As an associate, I've noticed we have been short on necessary supplies, and we were being told by administration that our supplies were "not a priority", so... I said I'd like to make my speech about equipment. The two managers nodded, wrote something down, and I went head first into a spiel about how safety cannot be achieved without the proper equipment.

I learned within two days that not only was our equipment ordered, but the manager I did the interview with (my bosses boss) sent out an apology email, stating his regrets on not taking action sooner about the situation (he knew we weren't getting our supplies).

Since I influenced him so much, I hope I get the job...

There's an old saying that we are merely custodians of this world for the next generation, not its owners. But it seems many of you have forgotten that part.
You destroyed the economy and the entire planet for your short-term gains. You never stopped to think about the kind of world you're leaving for your children and grandchildren.
And please, spare us the lectures about God and personal responsibility.
This is exactly the reason why places like this sub are growing every day. The anger has been suppressed for years, but now it's finally exploding.
Honestly, I hope people keep quitting their dead-end jobs. I hope this whole thing leads to a general strike, just so you can finally taste a bit of the anxiety and despair we live with.