Did Alexander really tame Bucephalus because the horse was afraid of his own shadow?
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Did Alexander really tame Bucephalus because the horse was afraid of his own shadow?

It is one of the most famous stories about Alexander the Great, and it happened before he was a conqueror at all.

The Story

A Thessalian horse breeder named Philoneicus brought an extraordinary stallion to Philip II of Macedon. The horse was called Bucephalus. He was large, black, and apparently worth a fortune. Philip Freeman gives the asking price as thirteen talents, enough, he says, to support a man for a lifetime.

There was one problem. Nobody could ride him.

Philip's experienced horsemen tried, but Bucephalus reared and refused to cooperate. Eventually Philip decided the horse was useless and ordered him taken away.

Then the young Alexander spoke up.

He thought everyone was giving up on a magnificent horse simply because they didn't understand him. Philip challenged his son to do better. And this is where the story gets interesting.

Alexander had apparently noticed something the experienced horsemen had missed. Bucephalus became frightened when the sun was behind him because his own shadow moved across the ground in front of him.

So Alexander turned the horse toward the sun. No shadow in front of him. He calmed Bucephalus, climbed onto his back, and slowly began riding. Then he let him run.

When Alexander returned, Philip was supposedly so overwhelmed that he kissed his son and told him that Macedonia was too small for him. Freeman tells the story in essentially this form.

It's a great story. Maybe a little too great.

So did it really happen?

Our main source for the full story is Plutarch's Life of Alexander, written centuries after Alexander died. Adrian Goldsworthy also traces the account directly to Plutarch, specifically Alexander 6.1–5.

And when you look at the story as a whole, it almost feels written to explain the man Alexander would later become.

Experienced men see an impossible horse. Alexander notices what they don't. They try to control it. Alexander understands it. They give up. Alexander takes the risk.

Then Philip finishes the scene by effectively predicting that his son will one day need a kingdom larger than Macedonia.

It's almost a miniature version of the Alexander legend. That doesn't mean the story is false.

Bucephalus certainly wasn't just a character in this childhood anecdote. Ancient sources continued to associate the horse with Alexander much later in his life. Freeman cites Plutarch, Diodorus, Arrian, Pliny and Aulus Gellius for traditions surrounding Bucephalus.

What we can't really know is whether the childhood encounter happened exactly as Plutarch tells it.

Perhaps Alexander really did notice that the horse was frightened by his shadow.

Perhaps a real story became better every time it was retold.

And perhaps Philip's perfect prediction about his son's future was remembered because everyone already knew how that future turned out.

Personally, that's what makes stories like this so interesting. Somewhere underneath the legend there was a real boy and a real horse. The difficult part is figuring out where the history ends and the storytelling begins.

I researched this while working on The Horse - Bucephalus, the first episode of Witnesses of History. The podcast tells Alexander's story through fictional first-person witnesses, and for this episode I imagined the scene through a stable apprentice (Nikanor) watching Alexander and Bucephalus. The witness is fictional. The story surrounding Alexander and Bucephalus comes from Plutarch.

What do you think? Do you believe the shadow story probably happened, or does it feel too perfectly written in hindsight?

Sources:
Philip Freeman, Alexander the Great (2011), Chapter 1
Adrian Goldsworthy, Philip and Alexander: Kings and Conquerors (2020), Chapter 9
Plutarch, Life of Alexander, 6

u/maged_atia — 20 hours ago

What exactly is a brushed coin? Should I avoid this Taras dolphin brushed coin?

I’m new to ancient coin collecting and I love Taras (Tarentum ) history and want to buy its dolphin coin.

I found this coin at a cheaper price compared to others (though the photo isn’t clear but i see some sharp details especially in the reverse side)

But I saw in the details that it was brushed .. and I am not sure what exactly is done during brushing and is this the reason it’s sharper or much cheaper than the others in the market or there is something else that I don’t understand.

What i also don’t understand is that 7.69 gms which is heavier than most of the other coins that are more expensive

u/maged_atia — 14 days ago

My first coin, ideas for displaying it while well preserved?

I finally put my hands on my first ancient coin
Antigonus I, 310-301 BCE, Kolophon Drachme , Price 1809

I know it’s small but do you have any ideas of displaying it while being well preserved?

u/maged_atia — 20 days ago

Which would you buy: Lifetime Alexander Drachm or a 100 year later tetradrachm if they were at the same price?

I am new to coin collecting. This will be my first coin to buy and I am not sure which one to go for, hope you can help me decide

The first one: 336-323 BC . AR Drachm. Miletos mint. Good VF .. I also like the details of the head of Herakles and I like the frame around Zeus and how centralized it is.

The second one: IONIA, Magnesia ad Maeandrum. Circa 225-200 BC. AR Tetradrachm. VF .. Not as detailed as the first one but it's a Tetradrachm for almost the same price (it's still an auction so not sure how far it can go.. but they both currently are at the same price)

What do you think? Thanks

u/maged_atia — 1 month ago

I’d love your feedback as I am Writing an immersive Alexander the Great history Fiction by people who lived it

I have been searching for an immersive podcast that can immerse me into history through the eyes of people who lived it (fictional history) and i didn’t find anything similar to what I have in mind.. I wanted to feel that I am there.. how did it feel to be a potter in Thebes, a clerk in Macedonia, a scribe in Babylon.... not only the soldiers and kings.. so I decided to create a Podcast and want to get some input and feedback

Every episode would be 10-15 mins.. narrated by an ordinary person who was there when the real event happened (a Macedonian soldier, a Persian noble, a Phoenician sailor, an Egyptian temple scribe, a royal courier, a Greek mercenary fighting for Persia, … you get the point)

I am starting with Alexander as I have been reading about that time for years.
So here are my questions followed by my thoughts on what the episodes would look like following Alexander ..

- what do you think of the idea? Would you enjoy something like that?
- Do you think there are any missing parts/ episodes that i can add?
- Any thoughts on improving any of the chapters/ episodes?

Here are my thoughts of how it would be like:

Intro
E01: The Horse - Bucephalus (by a Stable boy)
E02: The Heir - The weddings (by Palace Servant)
Bonus A: A Shadow of Persia (introducing Persia through the eyes of a Sailor from Sidon)
E03 - The Last Theban - Alexander invading Thebes (by a Theban Potter)
Ledger I: The Empty Treasury (by a Macedonian clerk discussing how the debt was)
Asia
E04: Across the Water - Asia ( a 19 yr old macedonian soldier crossing the Hellespont)
E05: The River Granicus (Persian cavalryman)
E06: The King (a Macedonian Companion at the Granicus )
Bonus B - The Traitor ( a Greek mercenary fighting for Persia)
Bonus C. The Persian Greek (a Greek vineyard owner from Miletus)
E07. The Great King (a royal scribe in the court of Darius III)
Ledger II. The Gold of Sardis (a Macedonian clerk)
E08: The Hunter Becomes the Hunted (Companion Cavalryman)
E09 - The King's Flight at Issus (Royal Bodyguard of Darius III)
Bonus D. Left Behind (servant of Queen Stateira)
E10: Thunder at Issus (Companion Cavalryman)
Bonus E. The Reader of Omens (A 17-year-old apprentice to Aristander of Telmessus)
Tyre
E11. The Island - Tyre (Tyrian stoneworker)
E12. The Engineer (Macedonian military engineer)
E13: The Sea King (Phoenician sailor serving in Alexander's fleet)
Elsewhere I. Carthage - The Last Ship (A young Carthaginian merchant)
Ledger III. The Sea of Gold (by a Macedonian clerk)
Egypt
E14: The Last Pharaoh (Temple Scribe of the Great Temple of Ptah)
Bonus F. What we Carried (Greek Egyptian Merchant of Naucratis)
E15: The City in the Sand - Alexandria (apprentice surveyor)
Bonus G. The Oracle of Amun (frontier caravan guide from Paraetonium)
Ledger IV. The Missing Column (by a Macedonian clerk)
Persia
E16. The Great Gathering (Persian Royal Inspector)
E17: The Night the Moon Grew Dark (Babylonian Temple Scholar)
Bonus H: Keepers of The Fire - The Magi (Persian Magus apprentice)
E18. Gaugamela… Dust ( Persian King's Kinsmen)
E19. Gaugamela… Thunder (Companion Cavalryman)
Bonus H: Freedom - The Spartan Revolt (Spartan Farmer and Father)
Elsewhere II. The Other Alexander - King of Epirus (Harbor Customs Clerk of Taras)
E20: The Tablet - Babylon (Babylonian Temple Scribe)
E21: The Keys - Susa (Persian Treasury Official)
Ledger V - Persepolis (by a Macedonian clerk
Bonus: Home (Macedonian Camp Blacksmith)
Episode 22 — The Last King (Persian Noble Cavalry Officer)
Bonus. The Price of Duty ( parmenion’s death by a Royal Courier)
Bonus - The Tomb of Cyrus (Caretaker of the Tomb of Cyrus)
Bonus - The Last Immortal (Veteran of the Persian Immortals)
Bonus - The Merchant (Persian Caravan Merchant)
Central Asia

I am still thinking about the next episodes, What do you think?

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u/maged_atia — 1 month ago
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Writing an immersive Alexander the Great history/ story by people who lived it, I’d love your feedback

I have been searching for an immersive podcast that can immerse me into history through the eyes of people who lived it (fictional history) and i didn’t find anything similar to what I have in mind.. I wanted to feel that I am there.. how did it feel to be there for different people.. not only the soldiers and kings.. so I decided to create it and would appreciate your feedback

The idea is simple, every episode would be 10-15 mins narrated by an ordinary person who was there when the event happened (a Macedonian soldier, a Persian noble, a Phoenician sailor, an Egyptian temple scribe, a royal courier, a Greek mercenary fighting for Persia, … you get the point)

I am starting with Alexander as I have been reading about that time for a long time.
So here are my feedback questions followed by my thoughts on what the chapters / episodes would be following Alexander ..

- what do you think of the idea? Would you enjoy something like that?
- Do you think there are any missing parts/ episodes that i can add?
- Any thoughts on improving any of the chapters/ episodes?

Here are my thoughts of how it would be like:

Intro
E01: The Horse - Bucephalus (by a Stable boy)
E02: The Heir - The weddings (by Palace Servant)
Bonus A: A Shadow of Persia (introducing Persia through the eyes of a Sailor from Sidon)
E03 - The Last Theban (by a Theban Potter)
Ledger I: The Empty Treasury (by a Macedonian clerk)
Asia
E04: Across the Water - Asia ( a 19 yr old macedonian soldier)
E05: The River Granicus (Persian cavalryman)
E06: The King (a Macedonian Companion)
Bonus B - The Traitor ( a Greek mercenary fighting for Persia)
Bonus C. The Persian Greek (a Greek vineyard owner from Miletus)
E07. The Great King (a royal scribe in the court of Darius III)
Ledger II. The Gold of Sardis (a Macedonian clerk)
E08: The Hunter Becomes the Hunted (Companion Cavalryman)
E09 - The King's Flight at Issus (Royal Bodyguard of Darius III)
Bonus D. Left Behind (servant of Queen Stateira)
E10: Thunder at Issus (Companion Cavalryman)
Bonus E. The Reader of Omens (A 17-year-old apprentice to Aristander of Telmessus)
Tyre
E11. The Island - Tyre (Tyrian stoneworker)
E12. The Engineer (Macedonian military engineer)
E13: The Sea King (Phoenician sailor serving in Alexander's fleet)
Elsewhere I. Carthage - The Last Ship (A young Carthaginian merchant)
Ledger III. The Sea of Gold (by a Macedonian clerk)
Egypt
E14: The Last Pharaoh (Temple Scribe of the Great Temple of Ptah)
Bonus F. What we Carried (Greek Egyptian Merchant of Naucratis)
E15: The City in the Sand - Alexandria (apprentice surveyor)
Bonus G. The Oracle of Amun (frontier caravan guide from Paraetonium)
Ledger IV. The Missing Column (by a Macedonian clerk)
Persia
E16. The Great Gathering (Persian Royal Inspector)
E17: The Night the Moon Grew Dark (Babylonian Temple Scholar)
Bonus H: Keepers of The Fire - The Magi (Persian Magus apprentice)
E18. Gaugamela… Dust ( Persian King's Kinsmen)
E19. Gaugamela… Thunder (Companion Cavalryman)
Bonus H: Freedom - The Spartan Revolt (Spartan Farmer and Father)
Elsewhere II. The Other Alexander - King of Epirus (Harbor Customs Clerk of Taras)
E20: The Tablet - Babylon (Babylonian Temple Scribe)
E21: The Keys - Susa (Persian Treasury Official)
Ledger V - Persepolis (by a Macedonian clerk
Bonus: Home (Macedonian Camp Blacksmith)
Episode 22 — The Last King (Persian Noble Cavalry Officer)
Bonus. The Price of Duty ( parmenion’s death by a Royal Courier)
Bonus - The Tomb of Cyrus (Caretaker of the Tomb of Cyrus)
Bonus - The Last Immortal (Veteran of the Persian Immortals)
Bonus - The Merchant (Persian Caravan Merchant)
Central Asia

I am still thinking about the next episodes, I’d appreciate your input and feedback

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u/maged_atia — 1 month ago