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Pairs of Birds in missions
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Pairs of Birds in missions

I am making a list of pairs of birds that appear during missions. Have you seen more? Please tell me.

CHAPTER 3: CLEMENS POINT

Advertising, the great American pastime:

  • When you approach Rhodes tavern, two bluejays fly to a crate near the back door.
  • When Hosea starts talking, they fly away to a water tower overlooking a train.

Blessed are the peacemakers:

  • A single vulture is waiting at your lookout point. When you get close, it flies away toward an oil rig (this one is probably just set dressing).
  • After you escape the cellar, the same two bluejays are waiting outside to your right on a pallet.
  • They fly away, first towards your horse, then again towards the train that spawns later in the mission.

The above two missions are noteworthy because they are very easy to miss, the birds have no obvious purpose, and both times they seem to be pointing towards a train.

CHAPTER 5: GUARMA

Savagery Unleashed:

  • I can't find a songbird here, but I include it because in the code "A_C_SONGBIRD_01" is listed alongside assets that are loaded into the scene.
  • The only other time a bird is referred to this way in the source code is when it can be found during the mission.

Hell Hath no fury:

  • The most well known one. Two songbirds appear at start of level.
  • After the level is over, they land on a wall next to Arthur in the walking interactive cutscene, and fly away after Arthur gets to a certain point and coughs.
  • This cutscene only plays the first time you complete the mission. You can't see it on replay.

EPILOGUE, PART 2: BEECHER'S HOPE

  • Home improvement for beginners: Two bluejays appear on roof. They fly away at separate times as you pull shack down.
  • A New Jerusalem: A single Bluejay lingers in almost every scene.
  • The Best of Women: When Abigail arrives at the house two blue jays can be spotted sitting together on a barrel in front of the house.

WHAT THESE BIRDS AREN'T

A lot of people think they represent dead party members (the single bluejay in A New Jerusalem is commonly said to be Arthur, the songbirds in Guarma are said to be Hosea and Lenny).

This explanation persisted because there wasn't really a better theory at the time.

I hope you agree that within the context of Beechers Hope, the two bluejays are more likely to represent John and Abigail's relationship (they separate when the house falls down, there's only one when John is alone and when Abigail comes back, the birds are reunited).

But this explanation doesn't make sense for the Bluejays that appear in Chapter 3 in missions that don't have anything to do with John or Abigail.

TL;DR: HELP ME FIND PAIRS OF BIRDS IN MISSIONS BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE A BETTER LEAD THAN POINTING AT EVERY ROCK AND GOING "THIS KIND OF LOOKS LIKE A BIRD"

u/mothrider — 11 days ago
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Fussar's Henchmen Can-Can Dance easter egg

In the mission "Hell Hath No Fury" where you destroy the warship in Guarma, two Western Tanager Songbirds appear at the beginning so I thought I'd investigate further.

The first time you complete it, there's an interactive cutscene that plays (where you can only push forward to walk) where they appear again. This cutscene only plays once (making it hard to investigate) and the code for it is stored in smuggler2_outro.c

I believe this script also contains code to spawn several Fussar henchmen, have them perform a Can-Can dance and then possibly die at the end.

func_21()returns the string to load the animation:

char* func_21(bool bParam0)
{
if (bParam0)
{
return "script_shows@cancandance@p1";
}
return "cancandance_fem0";
}

And func_6() handles the logic (also spawning a bunch of blood puddles at the end of the function).

Has anyone (or can anyone) figured out how to get this to trigger?

I think it's something simple like waiting half an hour without moving forward but I don't have a Guarma save file to test it.

u/mothrider — 15 days ago