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What GEO tools are you actually using vs just renamed SEO tools?

Okay, I gotta say I do agree with the majority here that most tools calling themselves GEO platforms right now are just rebranded rank trackers. Buuuuuut, to play devil's advocate, I still don't think that means they all are.

Introducing... my test 😉.

What I do is check whether it shows prompt level visibility and citations or just keyword overlap. If it's the latter, it's SEO with a new name. If it tracks which prompts surface your brand across ChatGPT, Perplexity and AI Overviews, logs citation sources and shows share of voice shifts over time then it's worth a second look in my humble opinion.

Does anyone else have a tried and trusted, foolproof test for whether an AI tool is actually legit or legit trash?

TLDR; if a tool isn't giving you prompt level visibility, what are you paying for? You might as well run the manual checks yourself...

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u/nick-profound — 7 hours ago

Brand name prompts trigger ChatGPT shopping at 3.1%. Open ended 'best X for Y' prompts trigger at 12.1%

Most brands optimizing for ChatGPT Shopping are optimizing for the wrong queries.

The instinct is to make sure your brand name pulls product cards. Nike running shoes. Dell XPS 15. Makes sense on the surface. But we tracked ~2 million prompts through Profound and the data inverts that logic completely.

Open ended prompts like 'best running for flat feet' or 'lightweight business laptops with strong battery life' trigger ChatGPT Shopping at 12.1%.

Brand direct prompts trigger at 3.1%.

Which means the AEO content strategy for ecommerce should be weighted heavily toward unbranded problem framed queries.

Is your AEO content mix actually balanced toward unbranded problem queries or still leaning brand first?

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u/nick-profound — 1 day ago
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ChatGPT visibility is pulling 762K prompts a month. AEO finally has its keyword equivalent

I get why it's hard to know where you stand with AEO . SEO has always had keyword volume and rank tracking working together. You know how much demand exists. It hasn't been the same with AEO, but I think that's changing.

We're now seeing actual prompt volume data from hundreds of millions of real AI conversations. 'ChatGPT visibility' is pulling 762.1k monthly prompts. 'Google AI overview' is at 642.1k. 'AI search optimization' comes in at 367.4k.

You can cross reference that volume against your own visibility to see what's working. High volume prompts where your brand barely shows up? Your content brief is probably a comparison page or a direct answer piece targeting that exact query. If it's a category level prompt you're missing , that's an earned media and third party presence problem not a content problem.

I run this as an automated pipeline in Profound Agents now. The prompts volumes node feeds into Visibility Score data, gaps surface automatically then a prioritized list comes out the other end.

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u/nick-profound — 1 day ago

ChatGPT's entity update quietly crushed brand visibility. 85% of brands saw declines. Here's what happened

I know this was a while ago, but it's still relevant to now. For those of you who don't know, here's what happened.

In mid Oct last year, ChatGPT started tagging brands as structured entities in its responses, a new Entity ['brand'...] field. The average number of brands mentioned per ChatGPT response dropped from 6-7 before the update to 3-4 after. Which meant fewer brands surfaced per answer/more competition. 3% of brands saw drops of more than 10 percentage points. 58% saw moderate declines between 2 and 10 points.

The update made the platform more selective. If your visibility dropped in October and you didn't notice, you've probably been building strategy on a broken baseline ever since.

Did anyone else catch this at the time? Did you recover? Are you still trying to figure out what happened?

Full breakdown: https://www.tryprofound.com/blog/chatgpt-entity-update

u/nick-profound — 7 days ago

If your AEO tool has a fixed keyword index, you're missing most of what your buyers actually ask LLMs

Got a little test for you all! Before you trust your AEO volume numbers for Q1 planning, do this...

Take 10 specific long tail prompts you know your buyers ask. Not head terms, you want it to be the specific conversational ones. Run them through whatever AEO tool you're using.

Take note of what comes back. If your tool returns zero on long tail queries you're not measuring real prompt demand but the overlap between your tool's index and reality.

We just fixed this in Profound's Prompt Volumes. Projected volumes now calculate on the fly for any keyword, regardless of whether it's in the index. Type anything in and it searches the full database. Most here: https://www.tryprofound.com/blog/prompt-volumes-keyword-volume-projection

But honestly, I'd do the audit first regardless of which tool you use. The results will tell you a lot. Let me know how you go!

u/nick-profound — 11 days ago
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AEO reporting is not a "build the deck from scratch every Monday" problem anymore. Most teams are still treating it like one

Still noticing a lot of reporting being done from scratch. From what I can gather it's a hangover from when AEO data was limited and everyone was still figuring out what to measure.

But rebuilding the same report every week isn't the best way to skin this cat. It's a waste of time. You also end up looking at slightly different numbers, data ranges, filters and views of the data.

What I recommend is creating dashboards that map directly to the questions your stakeholders ask. For leadership, that might be visibility score, share of voice and top citation sources. For practitioners, maybe it's visibility by topic , platform, region, competitor set etc.

Build the view once, save the filters and make it the source of truth instead of everyone working from their won version of the data.

Are you still building weekly decks or have you moved to a dashboard first reporting cadence?

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u/nick-profound — 13 days ago

We ran a controlled experiment on Markdown vs HTML for AI bots. The results were...underwhelming

We A/B tested 381 pages across 6 sites over 3 weeks. Markdown pages saw roughly one extra median bot visit. LLMs have been trained on billions of HTML pages. They're extremely good at parsing it.

That's it. The format you serve them in is probably not the lever you're looking for.

What other AEO "hacks" have you tried that turned out to be a waste of time? Would love if we could start building a list of things people can avoid so we don't all fall into the same trap.

Full study here: https://www.tryprofound.com/blog/markdown-vs-html-ai-search

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u/nick-profound — 13 days ago

Reddit is the most-cited domain in AI search. Here's what the data actually says

I'm aware the "Reddit is important for AEO" conversation has been doing the rounds right now. I know it's getting cited. You know it's getting cited. An alien on Mars also knows it's getting cited.

Don't get me wrong Reddit does indeed dominate. It sits at 3.11% of all citations across major AI platforms. YouTube is second at 2.14% Wikipedia third at 1.35%. Reddit ranks #1 on Perplexity, #2 on ChatGPT, Google AI Overviews and Grok.

But how? Lots of talk about Reddit being important but where's all the talk about what specific content is getting pulled or how you can use that knowledge to your advantage?

At work, Josh Blyskal (AI strategist) and Sartaj Rajpal (researcher) analyzed 4 billion AI citations in collaboration with Reddit. What they found is the type of content getting pulled id clear question and response format. Specific problem, direct solution. Natural conversational language. No marketing speak. Balanced honesty beats positive spin. Positive and negative brand sentiment get cited at nearly identical rates (5% v 6.1%).

Full research can be found here: https://www.tryprofound.com/blog/the-data-on-reddit-and-ai-search

u/nick-profound — 18 days ago

40-60% of AI search citations change month to month for the same query. Here's why that matters for your strategy

Based on what we found in our citation drift study, my advice would be to start tracking directional trends over at least 90 days before drawing conclusions.

Don't treat your competitive set as fixed. Build a monitoring system that runs consistently. The advantage goes to whoever can tell the difference between normal volatility and a real shift. You can't do that without continuous data.

More specific advice here: https://www.tryprofound.com/blog/ai-search-volatility 

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u/nick-profound — 18 days ago
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Here's what I'm prioritizing in my marketing strategy for 2026

Two weeks ago I celebrated my first year anniversary at work.

It's been a year of growth for me (personally and professionally). A dream come true really. It's weird to think that when I joined Profound there were about 20 of us and now there's 130 and we just hit a billion dollar valuation.

One year and so much has changed in AEO, so I wanted to do a bit of a roundup of what I've personally learned this year (and I hope some of you will do this same)!

What I've been focused on in the last year:

  • Understanding the citation supply chain/ which sources AI trusts in each category and why. 
  • Building systems that run automatically instead of doing things manually. I do still believe (now more than ever) that if  you're still doing anything manually in 2026 that's a sign you have room to automate.
  • Getting in front of as many marketers as possible - I've taken about 50 demos personally and led them all. Nothing teaches you faster than the questions buyers actually ask.

What I’ve learned:

  • Prompt coverage is the metric most teams aren't tracking but should be. Which specific questions are you winning and which are you losing? 
  • Off-site authority matters more than owned content. 85% of AI brand mentions come from third party pages. The content you don't control is doing more work than the content you do.
  • Measurement is broken and most teams don't know it. UTMs show maybe 3% of AI driven leads. The attribution gap is getting wider.

What I’m focused on going forward: 

  • Building the marketing engineer discipline with people who build systems not just campaigns
  • Helping brands understand their citation supply chain before they spend a dollar on content
  • Zero Click NY next month, getting this conversation into more rooms

Would love to hear from everyone else as well. I think it's helpful to share this with each other as we go!

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u/nick-profound — 19 days ago

Walmart gets 8.78% of ChatGPT Shopping buy links. Target leads total presence. Here's why that matters.

Back at it again with another update everyone. Just analyzed 22.5 million ChatGPT Shopping buy offers.

Walmart owns the rank 1 buy link slot at 8.78% of offers. Target tops total presence across all positions at 7.16%. In other words: Walmart wins the "first click" position and target wins breadth, which is interesting.

Another good insight is that the shopping carousel is extremely unstable. ~95% of product titles appeared in fewer than 30% of runs for the exact same prompt. The median carousel size is 5 products, but ranges from 1 to 67.

I think this breaks a lot of the mental models retailers still have from Google Shopping and SEO more broadly. This isn't a static ranking system where you get position #1 and defend it for six months. The model is rebuilding the shopping experience from scratch every single run.

Retail teams, I'd love to hear from you about how you're thinking about this internally?

Source: https://www.tryprofound.com/blog/chatgpt-retail-target-walmart

u/nick-profound — 19 days ago

YouTube citations are video-first, not channel-first. Here's what that means for your content strategy

We extracted ~700k social platform citations from ChatGPT responses and looked at how YouTube gets cited. 85% of YouTube citations point to specific videos. Channel pages account for just 5%. ChatGPT is citing a specific video that directly answers a question. Not a creator or a channel. Channel authority matters less than individual video optimization. Title, description, content structure. That'll get a video into AI answers. You don't need thousands of subscribers.

Think of it like Reddit. 99% of Reddit citations are individual discussion threads not subreddit pages. Be specific at the content level. Don’t pump out content on YouTube or karma farm on Reddit and expect to get cited. 

Full breakdown of social citation patterns here: https://www.tryprofound.com/blog/chatgpt-reddit-youtube-citations

u/nick-profound — 20 days ago
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People keep saying AEO is just SEO with a new name. I disagree...

I'll be upfront. I came from paid media not SEO.

I get on some level that I don't really have a say in the whole "AEO vs SEO debate". To some of you I never will. That's fine. I'm not sad about it - the distance is what gives me a cleaner perspective on what's really happening here.

My experience in paid was all about the customer journey. I spent time trying to understand what the customer is doing at every stage. Meeting them where they are, that's what drives the different in how you spend and what you build.

At work I try to look at AEO through that lens too. Here's what I see: 90% of the B2B buying journey is complete before a buyer contacts a vendor. 81% already have a preferred vendor in mind before they ever talk to sales.

My opinion?

Is AEO "real"? Is it just a rebrand of SEO? Is AEO the right term?

Who cares!!

At the end of the day the buying journey is changing and AI is intercepting it in a very real way. Put yourself in the shoes of your buyer - they're starting their research in ChatGPT not Google. They can get restaurant recommendations without leaving Perplexity, shortlist software vendors without visiting a single website, form an opinion about your brand before you ever get a chance to tell your own story.

Call "AEO" what you want. Hell, call it Tuesday for all I care. Just make sure you understand that it's not SEO/what's really happening so that you can be part of it.

That's my take.

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u/nick-profound — 24 days ago

AI search results change 40-60% every month. Here's how to actually measure your visibility.

For anyone frustrated that their Ai visibility looks different every time they check...we ran the numbers. Got a few updates.

~80,000 prompts per platform. 40-60% of cited domains completely change month over month for identical questions. 6 months out that hits 70-90%. AI search is probabilistic by design, the randomness is frustrating but intentional. It's not your fault. The best way forward is to track trends over time. Try and aggregate across multiple data points before drawing any conclusions. Avoid reading too much into individual snapshots.

Full study if you want the methodology: https://www.tryprofound.com/blog/ai-search-volatility

u/nick-profound — 24 days ago
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What SEO and marketing strategies are going to matter in 2026 and beyond?

Okay, sorry folks bit of a longer post but I think it's important and useful!

Around Feb last year, a buddy of mine from work (Josh Blyskal - he's an AI Strategist) did a deep dive on why he think traditional SEO isn't enough in 2025/what the future will look like. I revisited it today to see what he got right. He was on the money about a few things.

For instance, the lack of correlation between Google rank and ChatGPT citations. Josh pointed out that last year for commercial queries like "best men's running shoes" the link between Google rank and ChatGPT citations was -0.98. That holds up. He also point that smaller sites with well structured editorial content outperforming bigger brand names in AI answers. We're still seeing that in our data.

In saying that, that were a few things that shifted faster than either of us imagined. Most notably ofc being Reddit. Citations within ChatGPT went up 800% in 3 months. LinkedIn also jumped from outside the top 20 to the number 1 most cited domain for professional queries.

With that in mind I want to put a few of my own predictions forward for the rest of 2026. This is what I think will matter most:

  • Prompt coverage becomes a standard KPI: teams that can't tell you which prompts they're winning and losing will be in the same position as teams that couldn't tell you their keyword rankings in 2015.
  • Brand becomes the most important signal in AI search: whether your brand is consistently referenced across the sources AI already trusts will be the most important factor. 
  • Off-site credibility over owned content: 85% of AI brand mentions come from third party pages. The content you don't control is doing more work than the content you do.
  • Comparison and alternative pages will be the highest ROI content play: if someone asks ChatGPT "best X for Y" and you have no comparative content, it pulls from whoever does. You're handing competitors the narrative.

Interested to hear what everyone else thinks. What's your list of predictions for the rest of the year?

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u/nick-profound — 25 days ago

Everyone using GEO in their marketing strategy... what's working and what's not?

I'll go first. Comparison and alternative pages are indeed the strongest content play... by far. People are right on that. Markdown formatting on the other hand did basically nothing despite what I keep hearing.

What about you? The more specific the better! Let's stay away from the classic "make your content retrievable"...

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u/nick-profound — 1 month ago
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Feeling lost with all the new AI search changes? Here's how I'm thinking about it

I work in AI search full time - there's a LOT of changes, all the time. How are you all keeping up?

For me, Josh's approach of asking "what time is it?" has helped, so I thought I'd share it with you guys (he goes into more detail in the Profound University course but this is the TLDR version).

He goes:

  • Don’t know where to show up in AI answers yet? It’s set up time. Pick 10-15 prompts your customers would actually ask. Type them into ChatGPT. Log what comes back. That's your starting point.
  • Tracking but don't know what's missing? It's analyze time. Look at who's showing up where you aren't.
  • Can see the gaps but nothing is shipping? It's generate time. One page. This week.
  • It’s working but exhausting? It's engineer time. Make it repeatable.

Does anyone else have a system like this for staying on top of it all?

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u/nick-profound — 1 month ago

If you sell software, ChatGPT Shopping is not your channel. Here's the data!

We analyzed 100 million ChatGPT prompt runs to understand what triggers the Shopping surface.

What triggers Shopping is naming a shippable product. Apparel, electronics, home goods, personal care - that's a 2-6x lift over baseline. Saying "I want to buy" doesn't do much.

Think about it like this: does the head noun in the prompt describe something you'd find on Amazon? If yes, Shopping activates. If the noun describes a service, software, or concept, it won't trigger regardless of how purchase-oriented the language sounds.

Four categories are effectively zero: software, services, travel, financial products. No amount of prompt engineering changes that. If you sell in any of those categories, this surface isn't your channel right now.

TLDR: don't optimize for purchase intent language, optimize for category and product specificity. For instance, someone asking "best running shoes for flat feet" is more likely to trigger Shopping than someone asking "I want to buy new shoes."

Full research here if you want to dig in: https://www.tryprofound.com/blog/chatgpt-shopping-prediction

u/nick-profound — 1 month ago
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How do you actually optimize for AI search in 2026? Here's what is actually working...

I've been doing heaps of talks and conferences for work lately. Went to BrightonSEO last week, got Zero Click NY next month. Lots of travel, lots of fun 😉…but also lots of time to think. 

Being in rooms with so many practitioners that know more than I do has made me question where I stand/what my opinion is on AEO/where I see AI visibility going. Specifically I've been contemplating what separates the brands winning in AI search from the ones still waiting to see how it plays out?

I’ve narrowed it down to 3 main contenders based on the conversations I had: 

  1. They know their citation supply chain: which specific domains and pages are being cited for their most important prompts and whether their own content is in that mix or whether someone else's pages are carrying them.
  2. They track citation share not just visibility: showing up in AI answers and being the actual source powering those answers are two completely different things. The brands winning know the difference.
  3. They read sentiment before it becomes a problem: AI engines are being directly asked to evaluate brands. Stale third party content shapes those evaluations whether you like it or not. The winning brands are monitoring what's being said and where it's coming from.

I want to hear everyone else's theories too. What's working for you in 2026? What's not?

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u/nick-profound — 1 month ago

What is one thing you wish you knew before starting to optimize for AI search?

Pretty much just the title! I'll start to get the ball rolling.

I wish I'd known how fast you see results. I've published content and seen ChatGPT pick it up and start citing it within 2 days. It changes how you think about publishing content. The feedback loop is tighter which also means you can test and iterate faster than anything I'd done before in search.

What about you?

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u/nick-profound — 1 month ago