[CA] Officer Testimony and The Presumption of Innocence

I sat for jury selection for a gun possession charge in Superior Court several years ago, and it raised questions for me around the weight that’s given to officer testimony in the absence of other evidence.

During voir dire, the prosecutor proposed a scenario where she was accused of failure to stop at a stop sign somewhere in the desert on her way to Vegas. In this hypothetical, I got her to clarify, there were no third-party witnesses and no camera footage or other physical evidence. The only witness was the police officer making the citation, and the accused (the prosecutor) maintained her innocence.

Under these circumstances, I said I couldn’t reach a guilty verdict.

My internal reasoning was this: during instructions, the judge made it clear that a charge alone is not evidence of guilt, and the burden of proof fell on the prosecution. I asked if there was any additional evidence from any source other than the citing officer, but there was none.

If a person maintains their innocence, the word of a cop should not carry more weight than a person’s presumption of innocence, especially in the absence of other evidence. That would seem to violate the idea that a charge does not prove guilt.

For context, the defense had opened with an illustration (in the literary sense) using “possession of a ham sandwich” to get across that all elements must be present to prove possession. I inferred that the defense would make the case that the prosecution lacked proof of the elements.

In the end, the prosecution used a peremptory challenge to dismiss me. But I’m curious: does the way I interpreted the instructions and the answers given by prosecutor align with the way due process rights are intended to function?

I would love to hear your insight on this—and maybe even peremptory challenges—in the comments!

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u/pamiskindofabitch — 2 days ago

Is police testimony enough to meet the burden of proof for guilt under criminal law?

I was called for jury duty years ago and the experience brought up questions that bug me to this day.

During voir dire, the prosecution proposed a scenario where a person was accused of failure to stop at a stop sign. In this hypothetical, I got her to clarify, there were no third-party witnesses and no camera footage. The only witness was the police officer making the citation, and the accused maintains her innocence.

Under these circumstances, I said I couldn’t reach a guilty verdict.

My internal reasoning was this: during instructions, the judge made it clear that a charge alone is not evidence of guilt. If a person maintains their innocence, the word of a cop should not carry more weight than a person’s presumption of innocence.

In the end, the prosecution used a peremptory challenge to dismiss me. But I’m curious: am/was I misunderstanding the law?

If I remember correctly, it was a weapons charge possession case, so I could only infer that there was no actual physical evidence in the case they put forward either.

Thanks in advance!

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