TORN: Golden vs. Irish Setter for active first time dog owners
Hi everyone,
My partner and I are looking to get a dog, but we are completely split on breed choice and would love some input from people who own or have worked with these breeds. This would be our first dog together so we want to ensure we make the right decision for them just as much as for us.
Here is our situation and what we are looking for:
Activity & Endurance: My partner wants a serious running partner for 5k-10k runs and long-distance hikes. We need a dog that can easily keep up without running out of steam.
Trainability: I personally really want a dog that I can highly train. I love the idea of building great obedience, fun trick work, and solid off-leash recall.
Future dog: We know we want a second dog down the road, specifically a Border Terrier.
We originally looked at Golden Retrievers and Irish Setters. We eventually set our mind on Goldens and decided to go to a show to meet some owners and get to know more about the breed and hopefully find reputable breeders. When we were there we met some Irish setters, so we're now torn again.
In addition to this we're uncertain as to whether a show or working golden would be most suitable for our lifestyle. Because my partner is looking for a running and hiking partner we were worried a show line wouldn't have the stamina. Then we're worries about the things we've read about Irish Setters being challenging to train. I think we're looking to find the balance between a loving and affectionate dog, that is active but also highly trainable and can settle at home.
For owners of Irish Setters or Goldens:
Irish Setter owners: How realistic is high-level trainability/trick work and reliable off-leash recall on trails? Also, I understand their nature means they like to run ahead and do scent work but is it at all possible to train them to walk by your side?
Working Golden and Show Golden owners: How do they handle long-distance running, and how is their "off-switch" at home compared to show lines? Would you recommend a show or working line given our situation?
How do you think either breed would handle living with a Border Terrier in the future?
Thank you so much in advance for any insights!