u/rawyamen

It seems a bit unrealistic to me, right now i don’t exactly know what an engaged view is, but i heard its someone watching for more than 30s.
I feel like previously it was much less strict, i would think if someone clicked your video and watched 15-20s youtube wouldve probably counted that as a normal public view before the update.

So i personally don’t think the current “engaged views“ are 100% comparable to the previous public views before the update.

My videos seem to also be doing slightly worse when comparing only the engaged views number to previous public views videos. With around only 50% of the current public views being engaged views (could also just be a bad period on the channel to be fair).

What do you guys think ? Are the current “engaged views“ fully equivalent to the previous normal views ?

Besides the new requirements to get in the program in the first place, something i don't hear people talking about enough in the new YPP rules is how even if you're already a member in the YPP, you will still need to maintain 10M shorts views every 90 days to make anything from shorts.

I feel like that eliminates a huge chunk of mid sized long form creators from making any money from shorts. Which lowers the incentive much more if you know you're making them for free. Small long form youtubers are probably not making any considerable money from shorts anyways, big youtubers will still be able to pull 10M views even if shorts are passive to them. But midium sized youtubers are the ones in that spot where you can make decent extra money from shorts, but not enough to maintain 10M views if you're not focusing on them.

If you're a midsized youtuber with primarely long form content, most just post shorts occasionaly and it's nice to get one that blows up every once in a while where you make a few hundred bucks. But now i think it's pretty much impossible to have that anymore, 10M shorts views in 90 days is a lot even as a midsize youtuber if shorts aren't your primary focus. And it sucks knowing that if you have something like 6-7M views in shorts, you will make nothing out of them now, instead of 600$-1000$ before which is a considerable amount of money and a nice incentive for a lot of people.

I really don't know where they were going with this, i feel like it decentivizes a large group of creators from making shorts. let me know what you guys think.