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Our cancellation survey shows 60%+ of churning users cite "my business is closing" and I'm fairly sure most of them are lying. How do you get honest churn data?
We have a cancellation flow where we ask churning users to select the reason they're leaving before they can cancel. Standard stuff: too expensive, missing features, not using it enough, switched to a competitor, and one other option, "my business is closing." The options are randomly placed in the questionnaire.
For months I assumed "business closing" would be a fringe response. It's not. It consistently shows up as the top answer, somewhere between 55% and 65% of cancellations depending on the month. That's not a business closure rate. That's people clicking the option that requires the least explanation and feels the least confrontational.
The problem is we can't act on it. If the real reasons are price, competition, or a feature gap, we're completely blind to it because the data is buried under a pile of polite exits. We've thought about removing "business closing" entirely to force people into the honest answers, but I'm worried we'd just shift the noise to "not using it enough" which is equally vague.
We've also tried following up by email after cancellation asking for a 5-minute call, with a small incentive. Response rate is around 3%, so basically nothing.
A few things I'm genuinely curious about from people who've dealt with this:
Is this "business closing" skew something most SaaS products see, or is it specific to certain customer segments? We serve small businesses so maybe that's part of it.
Has anyone removed or restructured the options and actually seen the data quality improve? Or did it just shuffle the dishonest responses around?
Is there a different moment in the flow, or a different format entirely, where you've gotten more honest feedback from churning users?
I'm not looking to add friction to make cancellation harder. I genuinely want to understand why people leave so we can fix it. The current data just isn't helping.
I stopped trying to get new customers for 30 days and it was the most profitable month I'd had in two years
Earlier this year I hit a wall. Leads had dried up, the ads weren't converting the way they used to, and I was spending probably 15 hours a week on outbound stuff that was going nowhere. I run a small service business, been at it about six years, and I'd always operated like growth meant finding new people.
Somewhere in March I basically gave up on acquisition for a month. Not on purpose at first, I just stopped because I was exhausted and needed to breathe. I spent those weeks actually calling existing customers to check in, fixing a few things that had been quietly annoying people for months, and setting up some basic follow-up sequences for people who had bought once and disappeared.
By the end of the month my revenue was up 22% compared to the same month the previous year. Almost entirely from existing customers buying again or upgrading, and from referrals from people I'd reached out to. I had not run a single ad. I had not sent a single cold email.
I think I knew logically that retention was cheaper than acquisition, but I had never actually felt it until that month. Now I have a rule where I spend at least one full day every two weeks doing nothing but contacting people who already know me. Not pitching, just genuinely checking in and being useful. The business feels calmer and the revenue is more predictable than it has been in years.
Anyone else had a moment like this where the thing you stopped doing taught you more than the thing you started?
We lost a big client and spent three months convinced it was our pricing. It wasn't.
About eighteen months ago we lost our biggest account. A regional property management company we had been doing facility maintenance for over four years. They gave us two weeks notice, no real explanation beyond going in a different direction, and we spent the next three months assuming it came down to price because a competitor had been undercutting us on bids for a while.
So we cut our rates. Not drastically but enough that it hurt. We went into the next six months slimmer than we should have been and the new contracts we won at those rates were honestly not worth the work. I was frustrated and a little bitter about the whole thing.
Then one of the managers from that property company left and ended up working for one of our current clients. I ran into her at a job site and we got talking. I asked point blank what happened. She said the decision had nothing to do with price. Apparently we had missed three routine reporting deadlines the previous quarter, and the person handling their account on our side had stopped following up when issues got raised. The decision to leave had been made internally two months before they told us.
That hit differently. We had a process problem, not a pricing problem. We had solved the wrong thing entirely and taken a margin hit we did not need to take.
Since then we have a review trigger that fires anytime a client goes quiet for more than three weeks. It sounds simple but it has caught two situations that I think could have gone the same way. The lesson was not about being cheaper. It was about not letting the relationship go silent.