u/snusmumrikk_1

i know that when changing from a major key to another, the distance on the circle of fifths tell you how distant the jump is. my question is what happens when you want to go to a new key that is not major. like phrygian, or dorian. do you then use the relative major keys to figure out tonal distance? you can go to the modes of major keys close to your current relative major? this is sort of esoteric stuff to me, would appreciate your input.