Wonder if any of the family knew the things J did.

I was wondering to what extend the family (Smurf and the guys) knew of all the bad things J has done throughout the seasons.

Sleeping with his teacher as a minor and getting her arrested for it
I know that Nicky and Smurf were aware of that he was sleeping with her but I wonder if the others did. And especially wether any of the family, or Nicky for that matter, ever found out about how he set her up to be arrested.

Nicky's drug bender and shooter herself
I don't think any of them ever knew what happened with Nicky. J just told them that Nicky was gone that one morning and they sounded surprised. I wonder if they ever figured out she was drugged out on (Craigs Billy's) heroin and then shot herself with one of Smurfs guns and that J had brought her to the hospital but protected the family by leaving her alone. I am also surprised that J never really brought that up or took form of revenge for that specifically, although it likely contributed to his long con in the finale.

Killing Morgan
Smurf eventually figured it out that it was J, clearly by that scene of her giving J the watch from Baz. But I don't think any of the others ever found out he killed her.

Killing Mia (and Tupi)
The others knew Mia vaguely as being associated to Pete and the fact that her and J had a relationship and that she stayed at the house for a while, but I wonder if they ever found out that she died (and that Pete shot Tupi at the same time) and more importantly that it was J who executed her in cold blood with the approval of Pete nonetheless. And then paid Pete to get his of her body.

Also curious to know what they would have thought of that knowing that betrayed and stole from J (which was his main reason) but also that she was the one who killed Baz.

Killing Smurf
They were all present for this ofcourse but I wonder what they really thought of this. Initially they all seemed not so resentful over it, realizing that Smurf wanted to die either way, but both Deran and Pope clearly were very upset towards J about it in later episodes. Them possibly not knowing that he killed people before and also the fact that J in fact made that promise to Smurf that he would shoot her if she ever lost her mind like that.

Setting up Angela to do drugs
Pope knew J set her up when Angela told her where J took her and then Angela connected the dots herself as well that J was manipulating her the whole time and setting her up to relapse. Wonder what the other guys would have thought about this.

Killing Penny
Ofcourse Pope found out and was disgusted by it...

Here a couple of the main things, but I am sure I am missing out of a lot of stuff.
Things like stealing from Smurf, selling/transferring the buildings, buying that bowling alley and laundromat, how he slept with Olivia to get access to her mother for the festival heist, etc.

Long post, my apologies. I wonder what your takes are on this!?

And what do you think would have changed in the dynamic between them and J if they know more about how ruthless, manipulative and dangerous he really was. Because except Smurf, I think they were in most part oblivious to the fact that he was the most dangerous one of them all.

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u/tms88 — 7 days ago

AK watch party

Anybody up for a full 6 season watch party? One episode a day, just talking about everything in that episode. Pretending we don't know future episodes yet. Just us geeking out and being fully into this incredible show one episode at the time...

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u/tms88 — 19 days ago

The significance of the watch in s3e13

What are your thoughts about the significance of the watch Smurf gives J towards to end of s3e13?

She's giving all the guys several properties as a way to gain their trust and share some of her assets/empire she previously kept from them.

But for J she has this expensive luxury watch as an extra present. Engraved with a message in the back mentioning how smart he is. She says it's a gift to thank him for the way he stepped up while she was in prison.

But as soon as he sees the gift, his entire demeanor and mood shifts. I've always wondered what exactly it was. At first I thought it was fear. It being a sign that she was on to his plans and ambitions. But then later he whispers her those threats that he's going to take everything away from her as she's asleep.

So it's not so much fear but it seemed to trigger something way deeper inside him that made him so much more angry and determined.

What do you think? Was there a deeper meaning behind the watch itself?

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u/tms88 — 1 month ago

C-17A Globemaster circling low over Norwich area

This RAF C-17A Globemaster III has been circling around at betweem 300m and 500m alt for over an hour now. Residents must be fuming at this point. Curious why they would do these kinds of training sessions (i assume?) late in the evening above residential areas instead of over sea just minutes away.

u/tms88 — 3 months ago