u/vizzyargonthedev

Image 1 — What are your theories as to why Beatrix's propaganda worked better on Sora's parents than on literally any other Imperian citizen?
Image 2 — What are your theories as to why Beatrix's propaganda worked better on Sora's parents than on literally any other Imperian citizen?
Image 3 — What are your theories as to why Beatrix's propaganda worked better on Sora's parents than on literally any other Imperian citizen?
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What are your theories as to why Beatrix's propaganda worked better on Sora's parents than on literally any other Imperian citizen?

My theory is that Emperor Levo wasn't a very good emperor either, and that Sora's parents had to deal with him and held a higher level of disdain for him than most Imperians did, which would make Beatrix already more favorable than not, making Sora's parents' trust easy to gain. Then, Beatrix, with her lies, propaganda, brainwashing, and manipulation cemented it in their minds. Living like this for so long would only fuel their love for Beatrix's seemingly better rule, while a reasonably acquired "this is so much better than before" mindset would fuel their disdain for Levo's previous rule, which in turn, fuels their love and loyalty towards Beatrix's rule, something they didn't realize was a lie this whole time. Beatrix's framing of Zeatrix falsely showed that even though Levo wasn't good, Beatrix would still serve justice to anyone, even family. Telling them that Beatrix was evil with proof that honestly could have been faked with the level of technology of their world, and especially Imperium, is asking them to reframe their entire mindset in a matter of moments. The reason they are unable to do this would tie into whatever their specific problems with Emperor Levo were, because if Levo had wronged them, Beatrix's rule had to be nothing but justice in their minds, which isn't entirely logical, but it makes sense given that every other Imperian also believed Beatrix's lies, albeit not as deeply as they did. Then coming to accept that they were wrongdoers after being deceived by a higher power and after being wronged and justice never being served to them? Practically impossible.

My evidence for this theory is how Levo acted and what his problems truly were, and also what traits he had. We didn't see him on screen for long, but it's surprising how easy it is to put the pieces together. Levo was anti-outsider and xenophobic because he believed Imperium was the greatest civilization due to its technological advancements. This kind of nationalism creeped into every part of his life, turning into straight-up arrogance, which would naturally make him feel he was better than all Imperians simply because he ruled over them, a position he didn't earn, but was born into as a the head of a monarchy. We can see he clearly rejected Ras not only because the dragons willingly shared energy with Imperium, but because he couldn't bear the prospect of being instructed, advised, or seen as equal with someone he considered to be an inherently lesser being than himself. He neglected his own daughter, Beatrix, and fueled her rage until the point where she had the idea to kill him. (not justifying Beatrix's actions, just explaining) This kind of arrogance could not have possibly been restricted in any manner, as Levo was the sole, supreme leader of Imperium, able to enforce his will upon anyone in Imperium. If his own daughters weren't free of his arrogance, how could Sora's parents have been?

Levo's arrogant nature would almost certainly result in actions done for personal gain and not the for the well-being of the people of Imperium. If anyone spoke out against him or criticized him in any way, Levo's arrogance would only make him use his power as Emperor to suppress them, criminalizing any form of political dissent. This, by nature of the concept of political dissent, would mean the rights of free speech and freedom of the press (in basic terms, free speech in the form of news media) are also stripped away. People would obviously have been jailed due to any form of criticism. While Levo did not banish people nor torture dragons like Beatrix, he was still a propagator of totalitarianism and dictatorial at heart, though it was not as loud. He obviously didn't need to hurt or jail many people because most of his problems were simply bad traits like arrogance or things like xenophobia, which I feel most Imperians would agree with. Also, his power was legitimate, and he never had to stage a coup to get it or frame anyone, so there would be no one to force in order to validate his authority. His dictatorial nature would be practically silent to most of Imperium.

The specifics are hard to guess, and I can only speculate what the events at any level of detail higher than what I have already spoken of really were.

In simpler words, my theory is that Sora's parents had some deeper problem with Levo, whether it be a form of criticism they participated in that got them punished, or something they did that was a "crime" by Imperian standards but completely fine morally, or something of that nature, something punishable in Imperium that they shouldn't have been punished for, and was petty and stupid. This would make Beatrix more favorable, and the lies would cement it in their minds. Now, after Beatrix is exposed as a dictator, Sora's parents are being told to accept that they did wrong after being wronged, that they were supporting someone evil after that person had technically alleviated the harm of an evil from them. This logic is obviously just the clear idea at a first glance, and it may seem slightly arrogant and self-serving, but it is logical nonetheless. Besides, brainwashing has proved to significantly lower someone's ability to understand the reasons behind their own actions, leading to the fact that after all this, Sora's parents don't have the ability to fully understand what they did wrong, and they don't even have the ability to fully understand the problems that led them to do those wrong things. They don't understand their actions nor their trauma. Just because Beatrix is gone doesn't mean that Sora's parents automatically lose all their brainwashing effects.

Senator Percival should probably look into getting rehabilitation for people like these instead of just punishment, because dear Lord some of these Imperians are brainwashed so bad. Just living under his just rule wouldn't solve those problems, because removing the thing that's brainwashing someone won't undo the brainwashing that has been done. Percival is a teenager, and he is absolutely capable of leading, something beyond anyone's wildest expectations, but he needs to stop thinking about the Loyalists as just criminals and also victims in their own sense. None of those who are culpable in this entire ordeal have to entirely be an aggressor. Sora is entirely a victim, but Sora's parents could have had problems of their own, Dr. LaRow seems to feel lost without serving Beatrix, The Loyalists could all just be really mentally instable people who need help, and Beatrix herself was still a victim to her father neglection and favoritism of Zeatrix. No one who is more than 0% in the wrong has to be 100% in the wrong.

Even Dr. LaRow with her smarts wasn't safe. Though I feel she won't side with Beatrix much anymore, she seems to know when Beatrix should back down. LaRow seems to really only serve Beatrix because it gives her power as well.

Now this doesn't mean Sora's parents are intending to reconnect automatically, maybe the time they take away from Beatrix's rule and the Loyalists will open their eyes while they're still serving Beatrix. Who knows? This is mostly "wishful thinking and plausibility with evidence" so let me know what you think about it, and give me your theories too.

EDIT: LOL i just noticed i'm being downvoted, i wanna know how many people actually read this entire thing and how many people read like 2 sentences and just said "this guy thinks emotional abuse is okay"

u/vizzyargonthedev — 9 hours ago

i'm not brainrotted or anything, but when i saw this moment i had to take the opportunity even if it goes against all that i stand for lol

I'M SORRY GUYS I HAD TO 🙌

u/vizzyargonthedev — 4 days ago
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maybe a hot take? idk: lowkey we should keep cole single for a while

cole and vania have been confirmed to be platonic friends, nothing more. but lowkey, i like that. i feel like there needs to be one ninja to not be in the romance sphere, and cole's been rocking that since day 1. we didn't even get a person he potentially could canonically have feelings for until season THIRTEEN. and he ended up only being friends with her.

i honestly feel like cole being single and also not having anyone in mind for romance is a trait that has a really nice charm. i don't want him to be aroace tho because at some point it'd be more than logical to give a cole a girl or something but right now, i'd rather just not.

arin and sora not having feelings for each other is good because ninjago needed one platonic friendship to stay platonic, and i feel like ninjago can teach people a lot if cole stays single

(and besides his love for cake is too strong lol)

u/vizzyargonthedev — 4 days ago
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I'm confused: Is Doc Wyatt on Twitter or Bluesky?

The first picture is @DocWyattOfficial on Twitter, but I knew Doc Wyatt wasn't on Twitter anymore, but on BlueSky, and I knew his account was @otherland71, so I though it was fake and went to his BlueSky account and saw that it was suspended? @DocWyattOfficial said that his BlueSky account got hacked, so it could be real. Idk help me out here people.

EDIT: i noticed "Official" is spelt wrong, it says "Ofical" so idk if this is real and that was just a spelling mistake on Doc's part or if this is fake

u/vizzyargonthedev — 7 days ago
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lowkey whether or not sora's parents get redeemed in dr s4 p2, i just want to see them used to touch on how emperor levo was like. just kinda curious about it

levo probably wasn't much better imo, he was still anti-outsider and a little xenophobic, kind of arrogant, thought that technology made imperium better than every other civilization, held other realms and nations with little regard for respect, and showed favoritism of zeatrix over beatrix. not that it justified beatrix's actions, it only validated her anger, and explains her actions.

given all that, it's safe to say he was also authoritarian as well, not just in the regular sense of a monarch. he probably criminalized political dissent and punished people for saying things against him. that'd make sense since he was arrogant.

he rejected ras' offer for probably only two reasons: because the dragons shared their energy with imperium, and because ras was an outsider and levo probably didn't like the prospect of being advised or instructed by someone he considered an inherently lesser being than him.

given that, levo would be basically just beatrix but a little less extreme, minus the one big difference that he didn't torture dragons for their energy.

this all would probably tie into sora's parents young life under levo. maybe levo's harshness made beatrix more favorable at first and then the lies and propaganda that covered beatrix's evil cemented it in their minds. that could be a plausible explanation for why beatrix's indoctrination and brainwashing/propoganda worked better on sora's parents then on the other imperians.

u/vizzyargonthedev — 8 days ago

pedantic ninjago au creators/fanfic writers, what are your crazy ideas that you would put in ninjago going forward if you were a writer? (image unrelated)

meme from https://www.reddit.com/r/NinjagoMemes/comments/1ndxuv2/ninjago_writers_be_like/

here's mine:

I would add a cult which was founded and is led by an Oni who was a friend of Mystake during the Oni-Dragon War, founded partially out of a belief that forgiveness is weakness and delusional and people do not have the ability to change their ways. The main goal of this cult is to ressurect the Omega and his army so that the Oni can reachieve their former glory (kind of like how Kalmaar just wanted power and "make my people great again" type thing), and they need to sacrifice someone to bring back the Omega, someone who has meddled with evil forces before. Not necessarily anything about the oni, just any evil force. the greater the evil of that force, the more likely they can resurrect the Omega. Knowing the ninja would get involved if it's someone who has been redeemed like garmadon, and to clear things up, much of the rank-and-file are humans and hybrid oni-humans, but they have multiple full-blooded oni in their ranks, some of which are high ranking generals from the oni-dragon war, so they do have the power to sacrifice garmadon that's their power level, but they choose Harumi because of her slight connection with the Overlord, because her actions got Mystake killed and the leader was her friend so partially out of vengeance, and mainly out of a delusional belief that the ninja want revenge against harumi and if they caught wind of the situation, as long as they didnt know what the sacrifice was for, they would rather have harumi dead or banished and face whatever was resurrected head on.

this probably would happen late in dragons rising or after it because ras and his master are the big bad of this installmet of ninjago. lmk what you think about my idea and give yours

u/vizzyargonthedev — 8 days ago
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i've seen a lot of hate towards the zane deaths that i kind of get, how do you think the writers should make another zane death but one that's way more impactful?

my idea is that someone destroys his memory card or something idk

u/vizzyargonthedev — 10 days ago

Wu probably caused the Merge because it would help against a threat, possibly Lord Ras' master. The crazy thing is, how powerful and evil does a single entity have to be for something as cataclysmic as the Merge to be worth delaying it, not even stopping it?

just something i thought about, nothing much

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u/vizzyargonthedev — 14 days ago
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the land of lee has to be a future plot point

realms are astronomically large, so i think the land of lee deserves to be realm unlike what i've seen, it's just that the ninja only needed to go find arin's parents, so they had no reason to go explore the rest of the realm, and there are probably people out there. i'd like to think there's a network of large villages that make up a kindgom, like the kingdom of araluen from ranger's apprentice (only read book 1 tho lol), and that the land of lee isn't really called the land of lee at all, maybe it's got a different name, or maybe different tribes and nations could have their own name for the realm because there's probably no centralized nearly sole civilization like ninjago or imperium. this needs to come back to light

imagine if this is where harumi ended up that'd be... interesting

u/vizzyargonthedev — 20 days ago
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my favorite thing about dragons rising

this came to my attention more after NinjaCole on youtube mentioned it, but now i see it more myself.

the original series didn't do a very good job at portraying the ninja as a found family of sorts, even though it seemed like that was what they were intended to do. a team? totally. a group of really, really good brother-like friends? yes. but more brothers-in-arms than just brothers.

with the added focus on the relationship between teacher and student, dr has made the ninja feel more like a family to me. it resulted in jay coming back to nya even tho he lost his memory.

it's subtle at first, and it sort of still is because of all the action that's been going on, dr has some of the most powerful villains in all of ninjago, but yeah that's my favorite thing about dragons rising.

u/vizzyargonthedev — 27 days ago

saw the thumbnail of this video by mainbeach on youtube, never watched but i feel the concept of lloyd garmadon throwing it down with emmet brickowski is really neat

if i get enough likes on this post (and if i become more competent with my tasks) i may take my gamedev passion and try to make this a reality because THIS FREAKING NEEDS TO EXIST

u/vizzyargonthedev — 2 months ago