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What was the biggest issue with BTCFi, though?

Historically, Bitcoin holders who wanted exposure to DeFi had to rely on bridges, wrapped BTC, or custodial solutions.

That introduced counterparty risk and also diluted the “native Bitcoin” narrative that a lot of BTC maxis care about.

Babylon is probably the only project that pushed BTCFi discussions more toward native staking models.

It introduced the idea of native Bitcoin staking without needing BTC to leave the Bitcoin network in the traditional wrapped model, which started to change how people think about BTC participation in DeFi.

But the next evolution could be even bigger: TBVs (trustless Bitcoin vaults / native BTC collateral structures depending on implementation).

If Bitcoin can be used as native collateral across ecosystems while still preserving its core design principles, BTCFi stops looking like an experiment and starts looking like foundational infrastructure.

I’m curious, where people think this goes, is BTCFi actually approaching product-market fit, or are we still early in redefining what “native Bitcoin utility” even means?

What was the biggest issue with BTCFi, though?

Historically, Bitcoin holders who wanted exposure to DeFi had to rely on bridges, wrapped BTC, or custodial solutions.

That introduced counterparty risk and also diluted the “native Bitcoin” narrative that a lot of BTC maxis care about.

Babylon is probably the only project that pushed BTCFi discussions more toward native staking models.

It introduced the idea of native Bitcoin staking without needing BTC to leave the Bitcoin network in the traditional wrapped model, which started to change how people think about BTC participation in DeFi.

But the next evolution could be even bigger: TBVs (trustless Bitcoin vaults / native BTC collateral structures depending on implementation).

If Bitcoin can be used as native collateral across ecosystems while still preserving its core design principles, BTCFi stops looking like an experiment and starts looking like foundational infrastructure.

I’m curious, where people think this goes, is BTCFi actually approaching product-market fit, or are we still early in redefining what “native Bitcoin utility” even means?

We’re already seeing BTC slowly move beyond simple holding.

• Store of value
• Collateral in DeFi
• Cross-border settlements
• Institutional reserve asset
• Self-custodial yield strategies
• AI + machine payments eventually?

Or will BTC mainly become an asset that big players keep accumulating for decades?

We’re already seeing BTC slowly move beyond simple holding.

• Store of value
• Collateral in DeFi
• Cross-border settlements
• Institutional reserve asset
• Self-custodial yield strategies
• AI + machine payments eventually?

Or will BTC mainly become an asset that big players keep accumulating for decades?

Most discussions about quantum computing focus on one thing: breaking wallets.

But the real impact might be more subtle and happen earlier than people expect.

First, it’s not just a security issue. It could create inequality. Some users and institutions will prepare early, while others won’t, leading to uneven protection across the system.

Second, the risk is mostly invisible. Everything works fine… until it suddenly doesn’t. That makes it harder to react compared to normal crypto risks.

Third, it challenges a core assumption. Crypto relies on the idea that certain math problems are practically impossible to reverse. Quantum computing doesn’t just attack systems, it questions that assumption itself.

And finally, the biggest risk might be timing. Not the technology, but how slowly ecosystems react. Upgrading infrastructure and coordinating changes takes years.

By the time it becomes urgent, it might already be too late for a smooth transition.

So the discussion isn’t just about “will quantum break crypto.”

It’s about who prepares early, who delays, and how the system adapts before that transition arrives.

Bitcoin was originally created to be peer-to-peer digital cash, but after more than a decade, it’s still mostly seen as a store of value.

Is it because of volatility that makes it hard to use for everyday payments? Is it slow adoption and scaling issues? Or did its role naturally shift over time?

Today, many people treat Bitcoin more like “digital gold” — something you hold long-term because of its fixed supply and strong security, rather than something you spend daily.

So the real question is: is Bitcoin still evolving into money, or has it already settled into being a long-term store of value asset?