I have recorded a video in BSL (British Sign Language) explaining Farage vs Binface for any Deaf residents of Clacton to know to vote for tomorrow!

Hello lovely people of r/deaf! Back again with my penultimate post!

Last post went a bit off the rails in the comments section. I think perhaps there were some misunderstandings. I am well aware that my opinions about sign language writing are the minority opinion.

But I want to write this to show what is possible ~ so that people can make informed decisions about whether they want to write in sign languages, and if they do choose which systems in an informed way. And even if you don't want to learn one, feel free to stick about and learn something new in the process :)

So in this post I want to show actual uses of sign language writing in real life rather than just theories or proofs of concept. Because I think some people periceve this to be just some random thing nobody in real life ever uses. While they are correct that it's rare - I would quibble with "never", so let me show you what uses of SL writing IRL I have found!

As per usual this is the mirror image of my blog which can be found here: https://lukapona.blogspot.com/2026/06/how-to-write-sign-language-part-6-sl.html

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 Whether you are new to sign languages or a native signer who has signed your entire life - you probably haven't heard about sign language writing systems. Spoken languages around the world have writing systems so surely sign languages can too? Well, many have been tried and used in brief corners of the world but none have been widely adopted by Deaf communities.

 I recommend these resources if you want to learn more about all of those attempts and their histories:

• Sign Language Dictionary - Writing History
• The Hunt for The Perfect Sign Language Writing System (© 2025 Zrajm)

 But in this mini-series of posts I want to explain the different types there are so that you, intrepid future sign language writer, may better understand the options and pick which to learn or make.

 In the last part I talked about the uses of sign language writing systems. And wow that one was very divisive over on Reddit! In this post I want to go through some uses I have found in real life.

Part 1: Logographies (Reddit Post & Comments Section)

Part 2: Pojectional Systems (Reddit Post & Comments Section)

Part 3: Parameter Alphabets (Reddit Post & Comments Section)

Part 4: History, Grammar and Gloss (Reddit Post & Comments Section)

Part 4.1:  Deaf People Before Deaf Schools - An Open Letter to Helen Scarlet Fever 
(Reddit Post & Comments Section) 

Part 5: Useful or Useless? (Reddit Post & Comments Section)

Part 6: SL Writing IRL <= You are here

Setting the Scene

Sign language writing systems are, admittedly, niche. But I think many people might be surprised in what places they have found purchase. And it is from such niches that any successful writing system will might eventually flourish.

So let me take you on a journey across the world, from Brazil through America to Britain - to show you where sign language writing systems have already been used in real life.

 To make it clear I will not include dictionaries, grammars, sign language classes, other learning materials, proofs of concept and most academic work, unless there is a clear reason why it should be an exception. I want to find natural organic uses of sign language writing, ones that show the potential it has.

Sutton Signwriting in Brazil (and more)

 Sutton signwriting is perhaps the most internationally adapted and successful writing systems. It was pushed heavily across multiple sign languages. There are examples like Bibles being written in it, the UN declaration of Human Rights, ASL + LIBRAS + Tunisian SL Wikipediaes and other books.

The Bible in SignWriting

The Universal Declaration of Human Rights in Signwriting

A Page From the TunisianSL Wikipedia

A SignWriting Book (Snow White)

• Museum of the Bible
• SignPuddle & Article 1 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights (ASL) written in Sutton SignWriting
• M537x541S30a00482x483S33e00482x483S16c48479x461S18551504x460S18535510x522S29a04522x482S37a0a456x470S3770d456x510 - Wp/tse - Wikimedia Incubator
• SignWriting Shop
• More here: SignWriting Library

 But in most places it has mostly flown under the radar. The primary major exception being Brazil. In Brazil the main national sign language is LIBRAS. There signwriting is far more widely taught, known and accepted. It is taught in 12 schools and 18 universities! It's unclear precisely what capacity they use it in (as I am unable to read Portuguese) but it appears they mainly use it to help teach LIBRAS to Deaf children and perhaps also hearing learners.

SignWriting on the Side of  School

• Brazilian Sign Language - Wikipedia
• A arte de escrever em libras

 Here are some items found with SignWriting from Brazil:

A physical book printed in SignWriting (O Sonho De Isabella)

A physical book printed in SignWriting (inside)

Water Bottles with Sign Names Written in SignWriting

Thanks to Nulpoints for helping me find these images, originally sourced from the Sutton Signwriting Whatsapp group.

 Additionally SignWriting is popular in Deaf academia, so much so that an entire dissertation was written and accepted in SignWriting in 2015.

The Cover Page

The Abstract / Introduction

A Comparison of the Same Page in Both LIBRAS and Portuguese (the whole thing is like this)

• SignWriting Symposium

 This is all to say that Brazil, and to an extent the rest of South America in its wake, have adopted SignWriting more than anywhere else on the globe.

 But this comes with a caveat. While some parts of the Brazilian Deaf community have adopted it, others do not use it. It is not the language of ever-day Brazilian Deaf people despite being taught for quite a while now.

The SI5S Boom and Bust in the USA

 In around 2013 Si5S made an explosion onto the scene! Originally conceived of in 2007, it wasn't until 2013 that the textbook was published. This kicked off a wave of interest and support for it.

 This video is from roughly that time, where Robert talks about and shows examples of people using the writing system. He talks about other Deaf folks asking him to write their life stories, and about teaching Deaf children, and them being "hungry" (in his words) to learn.

Robert Arnold Augustus at TEDxIslay

 Additionally across social media there was a flood of posts using and supporting Si5S, promoting workshops in classes across the country.

Si5S Superbowl Advert

People posing with their Textbooks

People posing with their Textbooks

  Thank you to Nulpoints for finding these images from old social media posts (I believe mainly Facebook).

 Additionally at one point Si5S was adopted and taught within Gallaudet. I have heard this from multiple people at this point, although the support doesn't seem to have spread much beyond the classroom and these nameplates.

>When I was at Gallaudet, sign language writing systems were a mandatory part of the curriculum. Every Gallaudet student learns si5s (or in the past, Stokoe).
[...] 
faculty nameplates in the ASL and Deaf Studies department. 

Creating a writing system for (American) Sign Language? : r/aslr/asl

 But just as quick as it had exploded onto the scene it fizzled to nothing. I believe this is only in part due to the internal fracture between Si5S and ASLwrite - though I haven't heard much about it's creator in the intervening years. More importantly I believe it just lost momentum. While it is remembered today by some, it is a far cry from the impact that its creator and early adopters had hoped.

The Stokoe Birth Certificate in the UK

 One lovely story of sign language writing comes from Britain. Both parents were Deaf, I am unable to find out where the baby was or not. She was named: Hazel UbOtDDstarL.

Also to be clear about this section - all information and images I have used are in the public domain. Beyond what is already out there - we should respect Hazel UbOtDDstarL's privacy.

Right: Hazel UbOtDDstarL , Left: Someone* Signing \"SMILE\" (*possibly either the linguist, or her father)

Hazel UbOtDDstarL's Birth Certificate

• The BSL Birth Certificate | AIMS

 The parents even faced a legal battle, originally being told no at the Registry Office (as UK naming law allows refusal of names that are "impossible to pronounce"), but hired a solicitor who helped them secure the right to name their child as they'd like in their native language.

 "UbOtDDstarL" means "big smile", and is this sign here: BSL SignBank. They consulted with a BSL linguist to produce this, though it isn't stated who this person is, as they are just labelled as "a linguist" by most publications. The version of Stokoe being used is likely the ASCII adaptation which can be found here: Stokoe notation - Wikipedia

• U = chin
• b = prone arm as an orientation (aka palm down) (this is on the left side of the handshape in ASCII Stokoe, but on the right side in regular Stokoe)
• O = O handshape
• t = towards the signer.
• DD = most likely a typo
• star = * (open up)
• L = L handshape

Thank you to Nulpoints for helping to check my work on this.

 Unfortunately the DD seems to be a typo or mis-understanding from this part of the Wikipedia page (or whatever reference the linguist used):

Likely origin for the DD typo

The Ds shown here are meant to be stand-ins for the Dez (aka handshape) and are meant to be replaced with something else. Additionally I presume that '*' was changed to 'star' due to UK naming laws which refuses names with symbols/punctuation.  Thus the name would read: "UbOt*[L]" or "UbOtstarL" to remain compliant with UK naming laws.

Thus a more typical Stokoe rendition would look something like this:

Nulpoint's rendition using the Stokoe Font in Latex

 That being said - it's still a lovely name and it's via these sorts of mistakes that language evolves. Hazel UbOtDDstarL will be around 13 at this point, and I hope she is living her best life :)

While this didn't exactly trigger a wave of people doing the same - it definitely offer's a format for how people could incorporate their sign names into their legally recognised names if they wanted to. I could change my name to "Olivia Ow" (Ow being O handshape + shake, the BSL for "olive") or "Olivia cvz55vz" (in reference to my long hair) for example.

The ASLphabet Homework in the USA

 A random use of written sign language I found in the wild was this use of ASLphabet in a child's homework! Sadly the original Reddit post has now been deleted but these are the pictures I got from it.

Homework in ASLphabet

Anyone can tell me is my kid (grade 1 Deaf school) did her work correctly? : r/asl**r/asl

 This is a fascinating example of sign language writing in use in an actual real life educational setting - occurring seemingly spontaneously. I can't tell if this is linked to any wider examples, though it doesn't seem to be so far as I am aware.

 But it demonstrates the principle that a writing system could indeed be useful in education. The children were, in-fact, able to match the handshapes to the relevant signs - demonstrating they had learnt the glyphs and were gaining phonological awareness.

 I have reached out to someone purporting to be the maker of said worksheets, and will update if I hear anything back from them.

 Additionally I have found a website called ASL Clear, which seems to be an educational website using ASLphabet to teach educational signs alongside videos!

ASLclear Website

Conclusions

Sadly this isn't much, but I think it demonstrates what could be. These are the useful niches that people have found sign language writing useful within, and from which it can grow. Even spoken languages started out used only within niches - by traders and priests who found it useful to keep track of goods and myths, and from there more and more of society began to use it.

 Perhaps the hurdles to sign language writing are too high ever to leap. Or perhaps they just need the right combination of when, where and how. I think it shows us that we need to learn the lessons of these systems and take what works. Either we can build upon what we already have, or building something new with these foundations.

 I'd suggest though, that we do need to consolidate. Notice that these different occurrences are spread out quite far and wide and across numerous different systems. Ideally we would come together and write to one another. Create a community of sign language writers who use the systems in our everyday lives to show how useful they can be. 

 But the looming question remains... which system to choose? More on that in my next, and final, instalment! ;)

Also - as Reddit only lets me post 20 images in a post I will be sharing a few more images in the comments.

There has been a lot of hype and exaggeration over the recent news about putting the show to tender. Lots of "Dr Who is cancelled" and "this is the wilderness years 2.0" - said with equal lament and glee. I want to put that to the side for the minute and discuss it reasonably.

Lets assume that some production company wins the tender and produces new Dr Who within a few years. In that scenario I have a few questions:

1. What companies do you think would be likely to even try for and win the tender? Sure Badwolf Studios could come back or some other similar BBC team - but ignore them. If someone from outside comes in... who? Why?
2. Is this a good thing do you folks think?

I have been seeing people say that Dr Who needs a shakeup for a while. People tired of the same three writers passing the baton to themselves. Would this be that?

Or would it be like the movie? A bit of a flop all things considered (I quite like the movie, but it didn't do well). Is handing Dr Who to an outside company too much of a risk?

Hello all! I hope you are well!

I am jan Olipija, and I am trying to get a new collaborative worldbuilding project going called Seedling Worlds. I have previously been involved with other projects such as Ponderworlds and Tyuns, and I have always felt like a similar project but scifi would be fun.

Project Details

• Medium-hard scifi - so no FTL or science fantasy, bother other than that you have pretty much free reign.
• Space for spec-evo, alt-history and self-insert concepts.
• Rules light / interaction light - we may add a "game" layer on top but I want to keep it a space where you aren't obliged to interact if you don't want to.
• Interstellar Politics - I want this to be a project where we are able to do interstellar politics with one another

Lore Details

• In the late 20th century the world was dying. Thus at the dawn of the year 2100, just before total collapse, Seed Ships were launched to terraform and colonise worlds across the galaxy.
• Since then contact between most of these worlds has been lost, as the seeding was very haphazard.
• Three bands emerged. The Wild Band - isolated for millions of years - evolution took its course. The Antique Band - isolated for thousands of years - history took its course. The Young Band - isolated for a few centuries at most, colonies that still remember their origins clearly.
• Now a new alliance has formed - the Stargazer Constellation. It aims to map and chart all Seedling Worlds throughout the galazy.

If you are interested - please check out this document: Seedling Worlds Master Doc

I also have set up a Discord server here: https://discord.gg/uC7YdgTMvd

And here is an example of a world, Eyeth: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tU_PAQEZoRn6Tto6SmdMEv1nTWETYvOV4tgfRLuegvc/edit?usp=sharing

Flag of Eyeth

Here are some maps of the galaxy:

Galaxy - Growth Bands

The Stargazer Constellation's FoundinG Worlds.

I have planned quite a bit for this project, and have some hopefully fun event ideas. But this is my first advertisement for people to join from :)

If this interests you then I welcome you to join!

Hi, back again! I have had this written up for a while, but took a bit of a break from this series before I posted the last few parts. This entry is me arguing why I think a sign language writing system would be a good thing. What it would bring to the lives of DHH people, other signers and the Deaf community!

As per usual this is a mirror of my blog which can be found here:

https://lukapona.blogspot.com/2026/06/how-to-write-sign-language-part-5.html

More than ANY other post I would LOVE your feedback here. Even if you completely disagree with everything I have to say, I would love to see you tell me so in the comments :)

EDIT: I didn't realise I had to say this but please don't be rude. This isn't a topic that should be that divisive. We can and should be able to disagree without resorting to rudeness.

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Whether you are new to sign languages or a native signer who has signed your entire life - you probably haven't heard about sign language writing systems. Spoken languages around the world have writing systems so surely sign languages can too? Well, many have been tried and used in brief corners of the world but none have been widely adopted by Deaf communities.

 I recommend these resources if you want to learn more about all of those attempts and their histories:

• Sign Language Dictionary - Writing History
• The Hunt for The Perfect Sign Language Writing System (© 2025 Zrajm)

 But in this mini-series of posts I want to explain the different types there are so that you, intrepid future sign language writer, may better understand the options and pick which to learn or make.

 In the last part I talked about history, grammar and gloss - where I went over the historical recognition of sign languages and many of the unique aspects of sign language. In this part I want to go over a question which is at the heart of this debate, should sign languages be written?

Part 1: Logographies (Reddit Post & Comments Section)

Part 2: Pojectional Systems (Reddit Post & Comments Section)

Part 3: Parameter Alphabets (Reddit Post & Comments Section)

Part 4: History, Grammar and Gloss (Reddit Post & Comments Section)

Part 5: To Write or Not to Write <= You are here                  

The Issue

Often when I talk about sign language writing, people say some variation of the following:

>"Sign languages shouldn't be written."

>"Sign languages can't be written because they are visual and use the face too!"

>"Writing is not a part of Deaf culture."

>"I don't need sign language writing, I can just record myself signing instead!"

>"I don't need sign language writing, I can just use English!"

 I have thought back and forth about what the best way to present this part would be. Perhaps an argument from both sides? Perhaps a history of writing showing how many people felt the same way about spoken languages when writing them was first becoming popular.

 Ultimately though I think it writing is a tool, and we use tools to solve problems. So the best way to demonstrate is to present the uses of writing as a tool.

 So I want you to imagine some hypothetical scenarios. In them I am a Deaf person and either my first and preferred language is a sign language. Also in these hypotheticals sign language writing is in an "in-between" state. Some people have adopted it, others haven't. This is not a utopia, just a version of our modern world with sign language writing known by a decent number of people in the Deaf community.

 I will be referring to "English" and "sign language" throughout this. By "English" I mean any spoken language - though I primarily mean English as I assume most readers are from the anglosphere, and by "sign language" I mean the sign language of any country such as ASL, BSL etc.

Use 1: Writing Notes for Later

 I want to write down a note for myself for later. Perhaps it is a shopping list, to-do list or "don't forget to..." note.

1. I could use English (or the spoken language of wherever I live) - but I'm not the most confident English user. The thought is also in sign language, and I have to translate out of sign into English in order to write it, and later translate it back into sign to read it.
2. I could use simple or broken English - this could be fine for something simple, but what if the note has complicated instructions?
3. I could use Gloss - at least this keeps the thought in sign, but this often sacrifices clarity.
4. I could record a video note for myself - but now I have one or more video files I have to watch again later to remember my note.
5. I could write in sign language - and remind myself exactly what I was thinking / what was signed.

 This is based on my real life experiences in training and a workplace. I have found writing notes like this to be very useful.

Shopping List (BSL, written with Icoglyphs)

Use 2: Writing Notes and Posters For Others

 Lets say I work or volunteer in a Deaf school or Deaf Club. I want to write a note, or make a poster, to be posted up for others to read. I know that not all the people in the deaf club are fluent in English.

1. I could write in English - but many here won't be fluent in English.
2. I could write in simple or broken Engish - but this would only be marginally better.
3. I could write it in Gloss - this could sacrifice clarity.
4. I could write in sign language - this might make easier for those fluent in sign to read out the messages without having to translate.

 This assumes, of course, that many people have been taught how to read the writing. In this case probably a bilingual sign in both English and sign language would be ideal!

Poster/Notice (BSL, written with SLwrite)

Use 3: Sending Messages

 Lets say I wanted to send a message to my Deaf friend. A text, instant message or an email. I know that my friend is also not confident in English. 

1. I could write it in English - but neither myself nor my Deaf friend are fully comfortable in English. There is a lot of room for misunderstandings.
2. I could try to write it in simple or broken English - better but what if the message I need to send is complicated instructions?
3. I could try to write it in Gloss - same as above but could sacrifice quality.
4. I could record a video message and send that - ideal, but requires a strong internet connection, along with time to set up a camera and record the message.
5. I could write in sign language - this would be perfect! Easy for me and easy for my friend to understand!

Texting (ASL, written with SLDWS)

Thank you to Nulpoints for providing the text for these texts :)

Use 4: Important Transcriptions (e.g. Evidence)

 I am in a situation where I need to know EXACTLY what was signed by a Deaf person. Perhaps a last will and testament. Perhaps a court room with a Deaf witness or defendant. Perhaps a meeting at a Deaf organisation. I know that I will need this as evidence for later.

1. I could record the person in question - that's fine, advisable in fact, but not very easy to pull parts from as quotes.
2. I could translate it into English via an Interpreter and write down the English - the Deaf person may have said something that was misinterpreted. That's not good.
3. I could write it in Gloss - again this is going to lack clarity and if I need to quote it later, other people might think that the Deaf person is unintelligent and thus unreliable.
4. I could write it in sign language - this would be perfect for transcribing exactly what was said in a way that can be quoted later.

  

Court Transcript (really it's Jack and Jill) (Classifiers / VV - written with Sutton Signwriting

Use 5: Writing A Long Text

 Let's say I wanted get a long form idea I have out of my head. Maybe it's a story. Maybe it's an essay or presentation. Maybe it's a script.

1. I could write it in English - but as I have said up above, I don't feel confident in English. Or maybe I do (or could get it edited), but it's not the language I want the story to be in. This choice, of course, would reach the widest audience.
2. I could record myself signing it - this is good and could reach a decent audience of Deaf people, but watching anything that is too long is tiring. What if I want to make something long? Like a multi-hour story that can't be watched all at once?
3. I could write it in sign language - This is perfect for longer works, as someone could read it at their own pace. Though this is always going to be more niche than writing in English, but niche can be good!

 This is from my own experience - writing long form stories to read back later makes it easier to tell them. I have even had a few occasions where I have whipped out my laptop, and read a BSL story of my own. Having it written in BSL has helped me remembering the wording and imagery much better than having to translate it.

 This also comes from my discussions with a Deaf professor - who told me that they dislike watching long videos in sign language despite teaching Deaf studies at a university level, and would prefer to read English. With a video you cannot easily stop and start again the next day. You cannot slow down on a tricky section and speed up on an easy one. You cannot skim-read nor key word search. With written English you can do all those things - and would likewise be able to with written sign language.

Lord of the Rings (BSL, written with Icoglyphs)

Use 6: Artistic Expression & Fun!

 Let's say I am a Deaf artist. I have ideas for stories and self expression and creativity. But all of that is happening in my head in sign language. I don't want to use English to express myself. I create stories in VV. I paint some paintings. But I want to record my stories in a way for others to read them too. I also want to write films and have other Deaf actors sign the signs I imagine them signing in my head.

1. I could just write it in English - that reaches the widest audience, but just doesn't feel right to me. Plus I first have to translate it into English then other Deaf readers or performers have to translate it back into sign.
2. I could record everything - but again what if it is too long to reasonably watch?
3. I could write in sign language - this would be perfect for me!

 This has also been my own experience. I find writing in BSL really fun! I also write in both English and Welsh and all three languages feel different to write and I feel like three different people when I express myself in each.

Use 7: Learning Sign Language

 Let's say I am learning sign language for the first time either as a Deaf child or a deaf later learner of sign. This is going great but I am having trouble remembering signs and grammar. I keep defaulting to English and fingerspelling.

1. I could write in gloss - but this has many problems as shown in the previous part of my series. It also can confuse learners as they struggle to see English and sign as two separate languages.
2. I could sketch little pictures of each sign, or what they mean - but I'd have to be really good at sketching and I can't sketch that quickly.
3. I could write in sign language - with which I could make flash cards for vocabulary. I could also write out sentences on a whiteboard or computer and correct them them to learn how to use grammar well!

A Classroom (ASL, written in Signfont)

Use 8: Learning to Read and Write

 Once again I am a Deaf child learning to read and write for the first time. I find it difficult because I cannot hear the English words (well). I keep making lots of spelling mistakes and struggle to form sentences, and am a very slow reader, and am delayed for my age.

1. I could push through with English and hope I get better.
2. I could be taught to read and write sign language first, learn the skillset needed to both read and write in my first language. From there I can transfer those skills back to learning how to read and write in English.

 Research shows that literacy in a first language boosts literacy in a second language. This is especially useful in small minority language communities.

• Do early literacy skills in children's first language promote development of skills in their second language? An experimental evaluation of transfer.
• Impacts of prior literacy experience on second language learning to read
• Reading in the second language classroom: Consideration of first language approaches in second language contexts
• Home language and literacy practices among immigrant second-language learners | Language Teaching | Cambridge Core

 Similar evidence also exists for Deaf children learning better if they first learn a sign language.

• The Importance of Early Sign Language Acquisition for Deaf Readers: Reading & Writing Quarterly: Vol 32, No 2
• Learning to read with sign language : how beginning deaf readers relate sign language to written words

 So it stands to reason that learning to read and write in their sign language would help them learn to read and write in English too!

Use 9: Public Access

 In countries like Wales and Ireland, there has been a big push to get Welsh and Irish on the road signs and other spaces in daily life. This means that Welsh speakers can navigate the world a bit easier - and as a Welsh learner you see your language around you.

Similarly - there has recently been a push to get rail platform announcements in BSL across the UK. There is also Braille available in many public spaces.

I would like to see more sign languages out in public.

1. I could push for more BSL videos in public like the BSL rail platform announcements  - this would be great but expensive.
2. I could push to see more sign language writing out in public - this would first require that a significant amount of the population use it.

 These ought not to be mutually exclusive. In cases where a video works, it should be that. But for most cases writing would be far simpler.

Stop Sign (international gesture, written with Sutton Signwriting)

Use 10: Dispersing Information

 For other languages, if something needs to be understood by all it is simply translated into the necessary languages, printed and distributed. This works for both short and long information. But for sign languages  you must have a video. This suffers from the same long message problem as above (if the information is long and detailed) - and videos don't work on paper. Say I want to make an informational leaflet.

1. I could include a QR code to an online version for Deaf people - decent, but requires a lot of extra steps. Also, do I have enough money to pay for this?
2. I could try to write in simple English - fine but what if the information is to complex.
3. I could write it in sign language - again assumes enough use this system, but that would be perfect, and on a par with all other languages.

 To be very clear - Having many accessibility options is a good thing. But having a written sign language would give more options.

Use 11: Passing Down for Future Generations

 I want to pass information down to future generations of Deaf and hard of hearing people. I want to tell them my stories. Tell them how we lived.

• I can write in English - that works only so long as English keeps existing, and I have to hope they can still read and write English, or have it told to them by someone who can.
• I can record myself signing - and I have to hope that the recordings get saved and shown to those future generations. I have to hope that technology doesn't change drastically that they can't watch it anymore.
• I can write in sign language - and if we carry on teaching how to write with the same writing system, then they can go back and read what I wrote. Books are not indestructible, but all there needs to be is one copy remaining in a library somewhere to be found again.

An Important Message (BSL, written with Icoglyphs)

Use 12: Language Recognition & Cultural Pride

 We as a community have been pushing for sign languages to be recognised as worthy of respect, and worthy of being taught to the younger generation of deaf and hard of hearing children.

But one hurdle to this has been that even if you learn sign, you would still need to use English in many aspects of life. So people argue "Why not just learn English instead?" Having our own writing system(s) would help us solidify the case for the recognition of sign languages. It would mean more of life can be lived in sign language if that is what someone wants that. It would help show the world this is who we are, this is our culture!

 Some might counter-argue - "Writing isn't a part of Deaf culture. Why do we need to change to become more respectable to the outside world?"

 I respect that view - and I agree we ought not to change because of outside pressure. Change should come from within because we want it. Ideally any system we decide to adopt will be because we DHH signers in the Deaf community support it and want to adopt it. 

That is a key part of my aim with this blog, as well as my other advocacy in this area. I'd like to spread knowledge about sign language writing, so that we can collectively create or adopt something we all want to use.

Addressing Some Comments

Various commenters also said raised broadly similar criticisms that I believe deserves to be addressed. The following were provided by Dreamy Tomato on Reddit (and I just want to clarify that I think they are good points even if I disagree):

>Desire to use a written language (creating or ingesting) generally correlates with two things: education and linguistic ability. [...] These two things, in the deaf community, also tend to correlate with ability to use the national written language. 

While this is true and a very astute observation - I think it is also partially due to two factors:

1. Lack of a parallel system
2. Privilege

 So those of DHH folks who are good at written English, of which I am one, rise because we are good at English. Deaf people who aren't as good at English, but who ARE good at sign, often struggle to access the same successes we do. That is a form of privilege.

 Sign language writing would provide that parallel system, it would offer more ways to live in sign language and more ways to succeed. If you go to university, now you can turn an essay in in sign language. If you want to publish a book, now you can do so in sign language.

 I would like to think it could be used by Deaf people who are clever but struggle with English to empower themselves and become successful. 

 Imagine a book published by a Deaf author in sign language that is successful enough within the community to get translated into English and become a best seller. Or an all Deaf team of filmmakers and actors with scripts written in sign language that make a film like Parasite that gets global acclaim.

 Or even if not chasing the goal of broad appeal - imagine we had our own robust Deaf community sign language ecosystems of fiction and the like. There are a few names who are famous for their Deaf sign language poetry like Bill Bragg, Ian Sanborn and Dorothy Miles - but they rarely outlive their own lifetimes even with video. What if a book of sign language stories written by a yet to be famous Deaf person could be told and retold, the equivalent of a Deaf Tolkein or Dr Seuss. 

 And that is just fiction. Examples like Gallaudet prove that a sign language academia is possible. Writing could turbo charge it. You could become a professor without writing a word of English. Companies could operate not only with everyday work and management in sign - but the entirety of their documents in it also. You could climb the corporate ladder and become a CEO with sign language alone.

>My phone has thousands of hours of signing available, and I can record myself signing a quick note in the blink of an eye and share it to thousands in an instant. These recordings function as our written (recorded) form of our language. There are scores of WhatsApp and Facebook groups with nothing but deaf (and hearing) signers signing to each other.

I don't think that should be lost, in fact on the contrary.

 But with spoken languages both exist in unison. We have both Reddit and Youtube - Reddit is strongly text based, Youtube is audio-visual where people often post themselves talking and often don't even have proper subtitles. We have both books and audiobooks - podcasts and AO3 fanfiction.

I think sign language can have it all too. We could have texting and recording a video message. We could have signing vloggers and bloggers. We could have books and even films in sign language. We could have written sign language stories and those very same stories read out and retold by numerous different presenters.

Thank you to Dreamy Tomato for these comments - I want o make absolutely clear that I consider her comments VERY insightful and good points even if I disagree.

Conclusions

 Do we "need" sign language writing? No.

 I thoroughly respect the argument that "I don't 'need' sign language writing in my life". Deaf and hard of hearing peoples' lives are already an uphill language battle - needing extra time and energy just to secure the accommodations we need to live a normal life. Asking everyone to put more energy into learning a writing system is asking a lot, especially as the first few to learn it - when it isn't widely taught nor is it widely useful yet.

 And, as I have laid out, there are other solutions to each of the use cases above. Deaf and hard of hearing people have navigated the world as is for the entirety of history - we do not need saving with a new invention.

 But could a sign language writing system benefit us as Deaf and hard of hearing people in the Deaf community? I strongly believe so.

 I believe that writing could open doors that look like walls - doors that we don't even know are there. One of the biggest hurdles is enough people learning how to read and write to make it worth it for anyone. But this is just a matter of momentum - once upon a time most people in society were illiterate, and it was through many years of work that we brought written language to the majority of people. We could do the same again for the Deaf community.

 I want to see a world in 100 years time where next to all the English book sin a library is a BSL section (or an ASL one in America), where a shy deaf child goes to open a bilingual book and find a whole world of people like them to get stuck into. I want to see sign language so normalised that street signs contain it. I want to, before I die, text a friend in sign language and they text me back also in our shared language. I think we can have all of this and more if we try.

 I want to see a world where this entire blog isn't written in English, but instead in BSL.

With the cancellation of a certain returning popular series (that was said to only be getting 10 episodes) there has been a recent discussion around the fact that fans would like to see serials come back. That we are tired of the 5-10 episode long seasons with overarching stories and we want some good old Monster Of The Week action.

People have been saying this is impossible now. I... don't honestly understand why. I'd like to hear from you lot, especially from people who actually have experience - why? Or perhaps if it is not true, why does this myth persist?

The argument that seems to be trotted out the most is that SFX budgets are too big now. But why not just do what they used to and make props and SFX that can be reused?

Another one is something about the difference between streaming platforms with whole series releases versus old fashioned weekly releases on TV channels. But plenty of shows have started releasing weekly again - and plenty of people will either binge watch old series or watch something while in the background. Surely a Monster Of the Week show is peak "second-screen-ability".

If it is about needing a test run and viewer retention... that is what a pilot is for, no? And surely the more content you put out regularly - the more viewers you will retain. Imagine if a streaming platform had multiple new shows coming out week by week on a longrunning basis!

I can't see how it would be finances because now streaming companies have a LOT of money. Amazon, for instance, absolutely could run a long running series with 20+ episode seasons if they wanted to. It would be a drop in their bucket to do so.

If it is to save money - I don't see how doing a high budget short season saves money over a similar budget stretched out over a long season.

Anyway - those are my thoughts. Happy to learn if there is something I have missed or am wildly understanding. Please be polite I am here to learn not argue :)

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Hello all! I am taking a small break from my series to answer a longform response by Helen Scarlet Fever. I am writing it as an open letter because it is an open discussion that I think we can all be a part of!

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Hi, u/HelensScarletFever! Wibbly here.

 I have recently been posting a series of articles on this subreddit discussing sign language writing systems, and in my most recent part I briefly covered Deaf / sign language history. It wasn't a comprehensive overview - just enough to understand how we got to the point we did in recognising the grammar of sign language. It is based on the evidence we have and the mainstream view of sign language development.

 In it I said:

>Sign languages have always been around, but rarely is their history written down as Deaf people were mostly poor and illiterate - as were most people outside of the elite of society. Sporadic accounts tell of those who use their hands to talk from across the world back to the dawn of civilisation. Socrates even mentioned communication by signing amongst deaf people, albeit briefly.

Your (Helen's) post, which was a long form response, challenged that view.

>I hold a deep conviction that all of the deaf people who have ever existed before the epoch of deaf schools are likely to have led a life that closely parallels Genie's [language deprivation].

>[...]

>L'Épée then had a radical idea that would forever change the trajectory for the deaf people. He thought: "what if I just go ahead and take the original signs that these deaf children developed on their own and incorporate that in how I communicate with them during my classes?"

>L'Épée was met with a surprise that the deaf children reacted very well to his radical approach. He noticed that the education process of his deaf children spiked up with his approach.

>[...]

>So where I'm going with this is that I view the deaf community's proclamation on deaf schools and the development of sign language as the true beginning of the "deaf community" as a harmful one. It is because that worldview ignores the existence of deaf people prior to the emergence of deaf schools. 

>And, no, their acknowledgement of records showing the existence of sign language prior to the emergence of deaf schools doesn't count as an acknowledgement of the deaf community prior to the emergence of deaf schools.

 The key point of your argument is that all deaf people before the establishment of schools for the deaf were isolated and language deprived, and that we need to recognise those language deprived deaf people as a part of deaf history.

 I partially agree - the way that the narratives centre on the deaf schools does sweep over the vast majority of history.

 But I find your juxtapositioning of your own view and the mainstream view odd because your view is actually perfectly in-line with the deaf schools are the cradle of deaf communities / sign languages theory. That very theory states that before deaf schools most/all deaf children were language deprived and deaf people were isolated. In fact I have heard it before amongst academics - though not as the only theory. It is in fact this very narrative that I disagree with.

 Your main disagreement seems not to be with deaf schools being the origin - but instead you think that the prior language deprived deaf folks ought to be given a greater amount of consideration in deaf history. I think I understand how you came to this view, and I think your goal is a noble one, but I think it misses a lot of the nuances.

>I'm willing to be challenged on my take on this. Just know that it'll be a tall order for me to change my view. I mean, after all, this is what I took away from my own reading of the literature that the deaf community produced themselves.

Challenge accepted.

 In linguistics we often have to deal with incomplete evidence. Languages only preserve when written down. You cannot find a language fossil. When we die any words and signs we made are lost if we did not record them.

 This applies to spoken languages as well as sign languages - while we have been able to reconstruct what people likely spoke around 10k years ago and further back and we are clueless. There are lots of theories and guesses but nobody knows. We don't even know if all (spoken) languages originally came from one or not, nor if/how large language families are related.

 So we have to work with the inferences at hand in order to build theories. I do not think the evidence is conclusive either way - but I do think it can be read in such a way that contradicts the theory you put forwards.

I think from the evidence we have there are three valid theories:

1. A-Priori: Sign languages and Deaf communities began in the deaf schools, with nothing coming before them. Prior to this all deaf people were language deprived and isolated.
2. Re-Occurrence: Sign languages and deaf communities are regularly re-occurring phenomena under the right conditions. Those include but are not limited to deaf schools. Thus many/most deaf people were language deprived and isolated, but some/many had access to sign and community. 
3. Continuous Transmission: Sign languages and deaf communities have been transmitted through generations prior to the establishment of deaf schools. Thus many deaf people were language deprived, but some/many had access to sign and community.

These are the dominant categories of arguments I see, but the terms for them are my own.

 In this open letter I will try to look at as much of the evidence as I can get through to see what it supports. I will try to give each theory a fair shot, and note when evidence supports / contradicts each regardless of my own beliefs.

Before we proceed I want to clarify a bit more about myself:

 I am a HH BSL signer who learnt in my teens (started when I was twelve). I'd now say I am fluent and I use BSL for my own accessibility needs. I studied BSL, Deaf Studies and Linguistics at university. I am very involved with my local Deaf community - I am part of a charity that organises events for Deaf youth (amongst other things). One of my jobs (long story) is supporting elderly Deaf people. I grew up speaking English and Welsh and feeling a part of my identity missing. Thems my creds.

Anyway on with the analysis:

Nicaraguan Sign Language (ISN)

• Nicaraguan Sign Language - Wikipedia
• Nicaraguan Sign Language NSL: Its birth, development, and structure|Dr. Ann Senghas|verb agreement (sorry this has automatic subtitles, but I think its a good idea to include a video)
• Nicaraguan Sign Language: One of the world’s youngest languages | British Deaf News
• How Deaf Children in Nicaragua Created a New Language

ISN in use by schoolchildren

 This is possibly the most "recent" form of evidence in that it is evidence of a sign language forming recording in real time as it happened. Deaf children were brought to the newly founded school for deaf children in Nicaragua, and there they - through chatting and playing with their peers - formed an entire language out of nothing. ISN developed in complete isolation from other sign languages for the first few generations of transmission (as the teachers only taught in Spanish), only later becoming exposed to other sign languages like ASL.

 Prior to this no language existed in Nicaragua. There is an example of a woman, Maria Noname at the start of the video who is language deprived. She is deaf and grew up before the establishment of the school. The video says she is communicating with "simple and primitive gestures". It is unclear whether the friend shown in the video taught her these or whether they were a form of home sign. I will be discussing that more later.

But lets look at this through the three lenses:

1. A-Priori: this is a slam-dunk fit for the a-priori model. It is a case of a sign language and deaf community emerging after the establishment of a deaf school.
2. Re-Occurrence: this fits re-occurrence pretty well. The re-occurrence model doesn't deny that deaf schools can be a key point in the emergence of sign languages and deaf communities - only that it is not the only trigger.
3. Continuous Transmission: this is a pretty bad blow against CT out the gate. The only possible argument is that some of these children did have some sign and brought it to the school, but I have not seen much evidence of that. I want to come back to home sign later.

L'Épée's School

• Charles-Michel de l'Épée - Wikipedia
• Deaf History - Europe - 1712 - 1789: Abbé Charles Michel de l'Epée (FR)
• Abbe de L'Epee - "The Father of the Deaf" | Start ASL
• Old French Sign Language - Wikipedia
• Pierre Desloges - Wikipedia

L'Épée himself

Firstly I want to correct the version of events you laid out:

>L'Épée was hired to teach at that deaf school and he was instructed to teach his deaf children via the oralist method.
Helen (2026)

 This is incorrect. L'Épée wasn't hired by the school, he founded the school. He did so after meeting* two deaf sisters in Paris and learning about their life experiences, he realised that deaf children had no schools to go to, so founded his own in 1760. Sadly L'Épée had little desire to document their signing.

*he was requested to tutor them by their mother, but only after a failed attempt to teach them by another priest. Additionally I don't believe he was paid as this was a priestly act of charity so "hired" is the wrong word, and he was trying to teach them on a 1:1 (or I guess 1:2) basis so "tutored" is more appropriate. 

>He was also given a manual system of signs to convey some basic concepts to his deaf pupils. He proceeded with doing what he was told until he noticed that the deaf children never responded well to the oralist approach and he also noticed that the deaf children at the school became absorbed with the manual signs that were given to them. He noticed that the deaf children began to play with the manual sign structure with each other and that they actually began to develop some original and distinctive signs completely on their own.
Helen (2026)

 Additionally he wasn't given either oralist nor manualist approaches because neither had been properly developed yet. While there had been a few semi-successful attempts to teach some deaf individuals before then in ways that appeared similar to oralism or manualism, none were practiced in a widespread way. (He may also have introduced some concepts from Monastic Signs "Languages", which I will cover later.)

>L'Épée then had a radical idea that would forever change the trajectory for the deaf people. He thought: "what if I just go ahead and take the original signs that these deaf children developed on their own and incorporate that in how I communicate with them during my classes?"
Helen (2026)

Yes this is what happened. But he also tried (and failed) to create a more methodical version which followed the grammar of French. He may have also been the one to introduce the LSF alphabet, which resembles some alphabets used by Monks previously (again more on that later).

>L'Épée was met with a surprise that the deaf children reacted very well to his radical approach. He noticed that the education process of his deaf children spiked up with his approach.
Helen (2026)

More or less correct. However the children thrived somewhat in spite of him. His methodical signs were largely only ever used in the classroom, and the children ignored them outside of it - preferring their own sign language.

 Now the big question-mark I see is whether those two sisters were part of a pre-established Parisian deaf community or not. Doing a relatively surface level online search I can glean:

• The sisters were young.
• They were likely from a poor area.
• It may have been their mother who wanted them to learn matters of faith, thus requested priests as teachers, of which L'Épée was one.
• They were signing - whether this is a signed system or signed language is not made clear.
• They may have been part of a community of 200 other deaf people.

 That last fact comes from the Old French/Parisian Sign Language (VLSF) Wikipedia but has no direct source. At the bottom of the page it lists:

• Sicard, Roche-Ambroise (1800). Cours d'instruction d'un Sourd-Muet de Naissance.
• Desloges, Pierre (1779). Observations d'un sourd et muet, sur un cours élémentaire d'éducation des sourds et muets. Amsterdam and B. Morin, Paris: M. l’Abbé Deschamps (Chapelain de l’Église d’Orléans).

 So the author of that page seems to know what they are talking about. Someone would need to go through it all to double-check. I might email one of my old tutors to find out.

 The second of these, Desloges, is a very notable individual. He is known as the first deaf man to ever publish a book. His book argued for sign languages. Notably he writes about the deaf community in Paris and their use of sign language:

>"like a Frenchman who sees his language belittled by a German who knows only a few French words, I thought I was obliged to defend my language against the false charges of this author."

His book is sometimes cited as evidence of there being sign language before the deaf school, but he learnt sign language 14 years after the establishment of the deaf school, and his book was published 19 years after the establishment of the deaf school - thus it could be the case that the sign language he learnt came from there. However, notably, he learnt from a deaf Italian man when he was 27, not from practitioners at the school itself - it doesn't say whether that man was an alumni of the school. 

Can an entire language and community take shape enough in just 14 years? If we look at the case of Nicaraguan Sign Language - I think the answer is maybe. But it still feels like a very short time for this to have all come together.

So lets look at this through the lenses:

1. A-Priori: if you believe L'Épée that the signs of the girls were "beautiful but primitive" then you might draw the conclusion that what they were using was a home sign system. But if the number of 200 deaf Parisians is to be believed, and they used this VLSF, then that ceases to be a home sign system and begins being a small sign language. Plus the evidence for a deaf community prior to the deaf school is pretty strong counter-evidence.
2. Re-Occurrence: this fits the Re-Occurrence very well actually. Especially if VLSF and the deaf community predates the school but has no obvious ancestors before that point.
3. Continuous Transmission: this is a big win for CT. It is clear evidence of transmission amongst a deaf community prior to the establishment of a deaf school.

Britain Before BSL - Kent & Leister

• British Deaf History Society - Promoting and preserving Deaf history and heritage since 1993
• BSL Timeline | UCL Faculty of Brain Sciences
• History of Deaf Education: Part 1 :: LumoTV - History of Deaf Education: Part 1
• Old Kentish Sign Language - Wikipedia
• Exploring the history and legacy of the lost Old Kentish Sign Language (updated)
• Sir George Downing, 1st Baronet - Wikipedia
• Martha's Vineyard Sign Language - Wikipedia
• Digiti-lingua | UCL Faculty of Brain Sciences

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 The story of BSL is very similar to the story of ISN. It was the establishment of the Braidwood school in 1760 up in Scotland that saw deaf children flock to stay there from across the country. There they chatted and played amongst themselves, forming BSL together. Older kids taught new younger arrivals.

But before BSL is another matter. There are a fragmentary records.

> Dalgarno (1661): The deaf man has no teacher at all and though necessity may put him upon … using signs, yet those have no affinity to the language by which they that are about him do converse among themselves.

Additionally there is a transcript of a wedding ceremony:

>Thomas Tillsye and Ursula Russel were marryed: and because the sayde Thomas was and is naturally deafe and also dumbe, so that the order of the forme of marriage used usually amongst others which can heare and speake could not for his parte be observed … the sayde Thomas, for the expression of his minde instead of words, of his own accorde used these signs…

>First he embraced her with his armes, and took her by the hande, putt a ring upon her finger and layde his hande upon her harte, and held his hands towards heaven; and to show his continuance to dwell with her to his lyves ende he did it by closing of his eyes with his hands and digging out of the earthe with his foote, and pulling as though he would ring a bell with divers other signs approved.
In Leicester 1576

And another:

>Somewhat neerre the place of his birth, there dwelt another, so affected, or rather defected, whose name was Kempe: which two, when they chaunced to meete, would use such kinde embracements, such stranfe, often, and earnest tokenings, and such heartie laughtes, and other passionate gestures, that their want of a tongue, seemed rather an hinderance to other conceiving [understanding] them, then to their conceiving one another.
Richard Carew's Survey of Cornwall (1602), description of Edward Bone

And another:

>Samuel Pepys (1666): But, above all, there comes in the dumb boy that I knew in Oliver’s time, who is mightily acquainted here, and with Downing; and he made strange signs of the fire, and how the King was abroad, and many things they understood, but I could not, which I wondering at, and discoursing with Downing about it, “Why,” says he, “it is only a little use, and you will understand him, and make him understand you with as much ease as may be.”

 That last in particular is either based in or connected to the village of Maidenstone in Kent, as that is where Downing was schooled.

 This links it to what is known as Old Kentish Sign Language, which was used in Maidenstone as they had an unusually high amount of genetic deafness. This is thought to have contributed to BSL as children from this area were sent to Braidwood and other schools. It is also theorised perhaps to have been the ancestor of Martha's Vineyard Sign Language (MVSL). I will touch more on this later.

There are also more tid-bits:

• 1428–1486 Princess Joanna of Scotland is reported to have communicated using sign language interpreters.
• 1450 Publication of History of the Syon Monastery at Lisbon and Brentford, containing descriptions of signs, some still in use.
• 1648 Publication of John Bulwer’s Philocophus: Or the Deafe and Dumbe Man’s Friende.
• 1698 Publication of Digiti Lingua, by an anonymous Deaf author, with manual alphabet charts laying the foundation for the BSL two-handed alphabet.
• 1720 Daniel Defoe publishes The History of the Life and Adventures of Mr Duncan Campbell, Deaf and Dumb, including a manual alphabet chart resembling modern BSL fingerspelling.

All of this before 1760. Before BSL as we know it today.

Lets look at this through the lenses:

1. A-Priori: you would have to argue that all of this is just home signs / sign systems used by isolated language deprived people. But that would seemingly contradict the evidence saying "they interacted with each-other" and "they could talk about anything".
2. Re-Occurrence: this would fit re-occurrence theory well enough... but...
3. Continuous Transmission: this is another big win for CT. If the fact about OKSL becoming MVSL and BSL is true especially.

Northwest-European Sign Language Family

• Swedish Sign Language family - Wikipedia
• (PDF) Sign languages in their Historical Context
• Frontiers | Historical Linguistics of Sign Languages: Progress and Problems
• Evolutionary dynamics in the dispersal of sign languages | Royal Society Open Science | The Royal Society
• A Comparison of Some American, British, Australian, and Swedish Signs ... - Lloyd B. Anderson - Google Books
• Computational phylogenetics reveal histories of sign languages | Science

 Swedish Sign Language (and its relatives) has sometimes been analysed to be quite similar to British Sign Language (and its relatives. While they are considered two separate families (SSLF and BASNZSL) the relationship is still mainstream enough within sign language linguistics. This relationship was found by linguistic analysis rather than by studying the histories of said languages.

 Furthermore some other Northwest European Languages seem to share features and be reasonably mutually intelligible despite being seemingly unrelated historically. 

 I have in the past attempted to find any suggestion as to the history of why this might be. Did a deaf teacher travel from Britain to Sweden to teach? Did a family with deaf members move? I have turned up nothing thus far. Thus I bring to you the only explanation I have thus far found:

> Anderson (1979) instead suggested that Swedish Sign, German Sign and British Sign share one origin in a "North-West European" sign language.

I think I have found a the source for this claim but I don't have access.

 It seems like a lot of work in the area of linguistic analysis-based phylogeny of sign languages has been done since the 2020s. As such I think this information has yet to fully percolate out to wider understanding. I have linked a bunch of papers above.

 I sadly do not have institutional access anymore since finishing university so I cannot appraise each of them but they offer tantalising possibilities. 

Lets look at these through the lenses:

1. A-Priori: you could attempt to argue that this is mainly post deaf school transmission of sign languages - and perhaps influence between sign languages. But I haven't seen any evidence to indicate that the Swedish and British schools / deaf communities interacted much at all.
2. Re-Occurrence: some of the papers above do seem to categorise these sign languages into clusters, which would make sense with Re-Occurrence.
3. Continuous Transmission: this is one of the juiciest pieces of evidence for Continuous Transmission. If anything like a North-West European Sign Language Family exists then it would have to have occurred pre-deaf school. It could even indicate that the various Germanic tribes that colonised Britain had deaf members (and a deaf community) who brought their NWESL. I suggest watching this space.

Deaf Villages

• List of sign languages - Wikipedia
• Deaf Village Series: What is a Deaf Village? | Introduction
• Martha's Vineyard - Wikipedia
• Mayan Sign Language - Wikipedia
• Kata Kolok - Wikipedia
• Adamorobe Sign Language - Wikipedia
• yucatec-maya-deaf-sign-study-guide.pdf

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 I mentioned Martha's Vineyard Sign Language up above, but it is just one example of many deaf villages around the world. These are communities where there is more genetic deafness than usual, and thus a large number of both hearing and deaf people people in the community sign.

 There are cases like with Kata Kolok and Adamorobe Sign Language which are wholly independent, and emerged out of the homesigns used by the first few deaf generations.

 There are also other cases such as MVSL (debated) and Mayan Sign Language where there is strong indications that these may be linked to sign language families. From the Mayan Sign Language Wikipedia:

>In the highlands of Guatemala, Maya use a sign language that belongs to a "sign language complex" known locally in the Kʼicheʼ language as Meemul Chʼaabʼal and Meemul Tziij, "mute language." Researcher Erich Fox Tree reports that it is used by deaf rural Maya throughout the region, as well as some traders and traditional storytellers. These communities and Fox Tree believe that Meemul Chʼaabʼal belongs to an ancient family of Maya sign languages. Fox Tree claims that Yucatec Maya Sign Language is closely related and substantially mutually intelligible.

 Additionally some like Inuit Sign Language(s) seem to form families of their own across numerous communities while still behaving like VSLs.

 These are sometimes called village sign languages (VSLs) and contrast with Deaf Community Sign Languages (DCSLs). VSLs are full sign languages with many of the same sign language grammar structures as DCSLs. That being said - they have their own patterns and differences. They use less classifiers and less verb agreement. They also use cardinal directions more - so instead of left / right they will point towards landmarks. Conversely they have more spatial refences.

Records of deaf villages and VSLs also exist both now and in history, and there is definitely nothing stopping them forming indefinitely far back in history. MVSL is only one example in North America - there are others on the mainland that are less well known.

Even amongst stone age hunter-gatherers all it would take would be a single nomadic tribe to have more deaf people than usual in order for that tribe to become a deaf village of its own - and we do have evidence of palaeolithic people caring for the injured and disabled. It might be an interesting bit of research for someone to do to look into the archaeological record for the earliest deaf village (specifically looking for a high proportion of deaf genes) we can find.

Lets look at the lenses:

1. A-Priori: this is probably the strongest counter-evidence. These deaf villages occur all over the world and form sign languages and they seemingly have also always existed.
2. Re-Occurrence: many of these are clear evidence of re-occurrence. These villages will develop a large deaf minority and will develop their own sign languages. 
3. Continuous Transmission: a number of these are also good evidence for CT, as numerous examples of VSL coming being a part of larger language families.

Monastic Sign Language

• Monastic sign languages - Wikipedia
• Monastic Sign Language
• Medieval Sign Language (Monasteriales Indicia)
• Medieval deaf communication | Wellcome Collection
• Monks & The Deaf

KING in Monastic Sign Language

Various monastic orders required that the monks in monasteries be silent. As such, they used (and some still use) signs to communicate.

These signs are often very practical based - discussing things one might need for food or daily activities. Additionally they do not have much in the way of their own grammar, with any grammar descriptions I can find being "almost but not quite [spoken language]". As such they were likely more sign system than full sign language.

This is a strong example of hearing people likely creating and using a sign language for their own purposes separate to deaf people. I have heard suggestions before that monasteries might have taken in deaf people as a form of charity. But I cannot find any account of this. Instead it seems like religious people were heavily involved in teaching deaf people out in the community. This was often on a charity 1-to-1 basis - so perhaps it is not surprising that they either learnt signs from or taught signs to said deaf people.

Numerous signs in the video and one of the links above are recognisable in modern BSL.

• The churchwarden's sign is for one to set two fingers on his eyes and make a motion with his hands as if to pull a hanging bell. - CHURCH (this could easily be happenstance)
• The sign for nuns is to set your two forefingers on your forehead, then stroke along your cheeks in the sign of the holy veil. - NUN (can't find a video - but it is remarkably close - more than I would expect from happenstance, it even uses the same handshape)
• The sign of the king is to move your hand down, then seize your head on top with all your fingers in the shape of a crown. - KING (this is remarkably similar, other sign languages I have seen have signed KING in a bunch of different ways).
• The sign of a layman is to take yourself with both hands by the chin as if taking yourself by the beard. - MAN (while "beard" makes sense as a coincidence, specifically the grabbing handshape not so much)
• The sign of a laywoman is to move your fingers across your forehead from one ear to the other in the sign of a headband. WOMAN (while obviously different, perhaps the BSL sign is an evolved form - as I have never been able to track down either the icon nor the etymology of WOMAN before).

Lets look at the lenses:

1. A-Priori: I think you could easily argue this fits within an a-priori framework, as these Monastic Signs aren't really full languages and they were used by hearing people for completely different purposes than Deaf Community Sign Languages. You could also argue that it was those monks that became teachers who brought these signs to the early sign languages, or that it is almost complete coincidence. 
2. Re-Occurrence: This supports re-occurrence well enough, as it is another case of a sign system  (and community of signers) emerging within the right conditions.
3. Continuous Transmission: but once again we get tantalising glimpses of the possibility of CT. Signs used in modern BSL appearing within these ancients monastic ones. And many seem more than just coincidental resemblance, along with a clear vector through which transission could have occurred.

  

Handtalk

• Plains Indian Sign Language - Wikipedia
• The hidden history of “Hand Talk” - YouTube
• INTRODUCTION: Conversational Hand Talk with Willie LeClair - YouTube
• Pre-Columbian Indigenous "Hand Talk" or sign language - YouTube
• (39) Plains Indian Sign Language: Uncovering a Forgotten Part of American Sign History - YouTube
• (39) American Sign Language & Plains Indian Sign Language (PISL) - YouTube
• Indian Sign Language Council of 1930 - YouTube
• Plains Indian Sign Language: Storytelling with Lanny Real Bird and Harry Sitting Bear - YouTube
• Universal Indian sign language of the Plains Indians of North America, together with a simplified method of study, a list of words in most general use, a codification of pictographic symbols of the Sioux and Ojibway, a dictionary of synonyms, a history of sign language, chapters on smoke signaling, use of idioms, etc : Tomkins, William : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

A Handtalk Sign, I believe DAY

I have talked about Hand Talk before in my articles. It is the language, or set of languages, used by the indigenous people living on the plains of North America as a pidgin (a secondary language by which two or more groups of people communicate when they do not share a spoken language).

They used this in gatherings, trade and warfare to communicate because their languages were too different from one another to be understood or easily learnt by one-another. This is another clear example of hearing people creating or using a sign language for their own purposes.

I have heard rumours of these sign languages either being used by or related to those that deaf people within these communities used... but I have never found strong sources talking about that. But it doesn't seem like a stretch to say that that could happen. That a deaf child would be born into such a community and find themselves within a community that already knew how to sign for a completely different reason.

The vocabulary and grammar of Handtalk are quite limited, waaaay more limited than most other sign languages. It has limited vocabulary and makes only extremely limited use of classifiers, directional verbs etc etc etc, and one source claims it only has around 4000 signs. This may be in large part because it was a trade pidgin, and used overwhelmingly by hearing people - somewhat similar to Monastic Sign "Language"s. But unlike MSLs the grammar was quite different from the grammar of the spoken languages used in the communities, likely again owing to its use as a pidgin.

There is some evidence that Handtalk contributed to ASL, though I haven't seen a full account of which ASL signs descend from Handtalk.

1. A-Priori: you could argue within an a-priori model that Handtalk is not a "true" sign language. But it does have a unique vocabulary and grammar. I would warn against jumping to this conclusion because it is different from other sign languages. Never-the-less it does lack many of the features that DCSLs would adopt after the establishment of deaf schools. There is also no clear evidence of any deaf community of handtalk users that I have come across.
2. Re-Occurrence: this one is strange because of said limits. If all that is necessary for re-occurrence is "some people communicated with their hands" then this fits the bill. If "it was a full sign language" is required then less so. Never the less this shows another condition where a sign-language-like-thing and a community that signs can re-occur outside of just a deaf school.
3. Continuous Transmission: two questions are of importance here 1) where did Hantalk come from? and 2) did it contribute to ASL? I think its not too hard to imagine that deaf people had a hand (ha, get it) in the creation of Handtalk, but its also not too hard to imagine the opposite. Additionally if it can be believed that Handtalk did contribute to ASL that is a helper towards the CT theory, but not a slam dunk.

 

Homesigns

• Home sign - Wikipedia
• Idioglossia - Wikipedia
• Cryptophasia - Wikipedia

Homesigns are communication systems used by individual deaf people and their loved ones around them. They are developed almost entirely separate from any community and language. 

This is an example of idioglossia - individual language. It is similar to cryptophasia - where twins will creat a language / communication system between themselves that only the two twins know. 

Homesigns can vary a lot in complexity. Some can be very simple systems that amount to gesturing and pointing. Others can get remarkably complex. From the Wikipedia:

>However, there are certain "resilient" properties of language whose development can proceed without guidance of a conventional language model. More recent studies of deaf children's gestural systems show systematicity and productivity. Across users, these systems tend to exhibit a stable lexicon, word order tendency, complex sentence usage, and noun-verb pairs. They have also been shown to have the property of recursion, which allows systems to be generative. Deaf children may borrow spoken language gestures, but these gestures are altered to serve as linguistic markers. As the child develops, their utterances grow in size and complexity. Adult home signers use systems that mature to display more linguistic features than the simpler systems used by child home signers.

 All of this is to say that homesigns are both language like and sign language like. When developed to their fullest they end up looking quite like sign languages - with OSV word order, iconicity and consistent NMFs.

 Lastly I want to note that homesigns, while better than nothing, still result in someone being disconnected from a community of peers with which they communicate. While they can communicate with loved ones, they aren't going to find many people willing to learn their whole communication system from scratch.

1. A-Priori: in order to fit this within an a-priori framework you would have to consider homesigns not to be "true" language or "true" sign language. It is true they are not as wide or complete as full sign languages but they do display many of the features. I think this is evidence against a-priori.  
2. Re-Occurrence: this is the strongest evidence for re-occurrence - that even a single deaf individual along with others around them willing to sign with them and create a system together, is enough for a sign language to form. That is not quite the same thing as a deaf community forming, but it is better than nothing.
3. Continuous Transmission: the only argument for CT within this framework is that homesigns can become sign languages when deaf people come together. However this seems to be the exception, not the rule, and the vast majority of homesign systems are lost when the deaf person either dies or joins a deaf community.

Blog Post version available here: How To Write a Sign Language, Part 4: History, Grammar & Glossing

I'm back again! This is a bit of a different one. I am done with explaining the different types of sign language writing system and I want to discuss the uses. And first on the docket is an important question can these writing systems accurately reflect sign language grammar?

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Whether you are new to sign languages or a native signer who has signed your entire life - you probably haven't heard about sign language writing systems. Spoken languages around the world have writing systems so surely sign languages can too? Well, many have been tried and used in brief corners of the world but none have been widely adopted by Deaf communities.

I recommend these resources if you want to learn more about all of those attempts and their histories:

• Sign Language Dictionary - Writing History
• The Hunt for The Perfect Sign Language Writing System (© 2025 Zrajm)

But in this mini-series of posts I want to explain the different types there are so that you, intrepid future sign language writer, may better understand the options and pick which to learn or make.

In the last part I talked about parameter alphabets, which tease out each individual part of a sign like a recipe. In this part I will talk about the grammar of sign languages and glossing!

Part 1: Logographies (Reddit Post & Comments Section)

Part 2: Pojectional Systems (Reddit Post & Comments Section)

Part 3: Parameter Alphabets (Reddit Post & Comments Section)

Part 4: History, Grammar & Glossing <= You are here                            

A Brief Tour of Deaf History

Before I begin we need a very brief history lesson.

Sign languages have always been around, but rarely is their history written down as Deaf people were mostly poor and illiterate - as were most people outside of the elite of society. Sporadic accounts tell of those who use their hands to talk from across the world back to the dawn of civilisation. Socrates even mentioned communication by signing amongst deaf people, albeit briefly. Sign languages spread and diverged for the same reasons that spoken languages do - people move to new places and then can't communicate with those back home where they came from, thus a new language is born.

But the oppression of deaf and hard of hearing people goes back as far also - as we are seen as stupid due to our inability to communicate, and attempts to "normalise" us are seen as virtuous.

Deaf Education began in 1760 with the founding of the Institution Nationale des Sourds-Muets à Paris by a man named Charles-Michel de l'Épée. There he, and other teachers both hearing and deaf, taught Deaf children using "manualism" (teaching via sign language). l'Épée learnt Old Parisian Sign Language (the sign language of the Deaf community of Paris) and tried to take those signs conform to the grammar of French - calling this signes méthodiques (methodical signs). This experiment quickly failed as the Deaf children and alumni of his school used their own grammar, becoming langue des signes française (LSF, aka French Sign Language). LSF would later be carried across the Atlantic by two men named Gallaudet and Clerc to become ASL.

Charles-Michel de l'Épée

Image Source: Charles-Michel de l'Épée - Wikipedia

In Milan 1880 the Second International Congress for Second International Congress on Education of the Deaf banned the used of manualism in favour of oralism - teaching deaf children only how to speak in the theory that it would make them more normal and better able to integrate into mainstream society. While this experiment worked for some, for many others it left them without accessible communication - and even for those who could integrate it often lead to difficulties socialising as they would forever struggle to understand those around them. 

Example of Oralism: via manipulating the throat of a deaf child

Image Source: deaffriendly | flashBACK: Oral Method in Deaf Institutes (Post-Milan 1880)

Oralism as a practice continues in the modern day under new names and continues to do harm - the current recommended method by experts and researchers is the bilingual-bicultural model (BI-BI), teaching both sign and speech separately to bolster one-another.

During this period sign languages were not recognised as unique languages. Where they were used, they were often seen as a form of defective "slang". "ASL" and "BSL", while definitely in existence, had no names but instead were seen as broken English made with the hands.

And finally we get to what this story is about - Stokoe. William Stokoe is was a an English teacher at Gallaudet University - a university that specifically teaches Deaf students. As an English teacher and linguist he noticed his students signing and as he watched he began to realise their signs had consistent patterns behind them. They had set "phonemes (parameters) which he called "cheremes" (the name didn't stick), and grammar.

Stokoe, signing \"LOOK\"

Image Source: Deaf History - Europe - 1960: William Stokoe, "Sign Language Structure"

This is what lead him to develop the Stokoe method, as well as coin the term "American Sign Language". That name did stick and soon sign languages around the globe had their own unique names and communities willing to fight for them.

Sign Language Grammar - The Big Prize

Sign languages have their own unique grammars that are different from anything a spoken language can produce. While much is the same, much is also different. And between sign languages there are many similarities and differences also.

Many basics are the same. Sign languages have nouns, verbs and adjectives. They have proper nouns (names) and pronouns. They arrange these into sentences to create meaning.

Sign language word order can also be starkly different. Many, if not most, sign languages work off a topic-comment system. This is usually where the topic (the item with more pre-existing information) comes before the comment (the item with more newly introduced information). 

Consider the city of Paris. You already know what Paris is, and where it is. Thus it is more likely to be the topic, though could sometimes be the comment. If I was telling you that I did something in Paris - the new information is the information about what I did. You know who I am, you know what Paris is, but what I did there is new information to you. Thus topic comment usually produces something like the following word order:

• Time - when did it happen?
• Place - where did it happen?
• Object - who/what was involved?
• Subject - who/what did the things?
• Verb - what did they do?
• Question - what more information do I need to know?

I sometimes like to think of it like a theatre play. Think visually. Imaging the space in front of you is a stage:

A Stage

Image Reference: Male and female artists playing on stage in front of audience. cartoon performers in evening dresses singing drama song flat illustration | Free Vector

• Time - first you tell the audience when they are
• Place - next you raise the curtain to reveal your backdrop telling them where they are
• Object - now you introduce the props your characters will use
• Subject - now your characters come onstage
• Verb - now your characters do stuff
• Questions - now you set up the hooks for the next scene

Not all sentences follow this, it is flexible. It can also produce Subject-Object-Verb and Subject-Verb-Object sentences. And different sign languages do this differently - some prefer OSV, some SVO some SOV. This isn't the be-all-end-all, just an overview.

Sign language pronouns are also unique and incredibly cool. You use a finger, or an entire hand, to point in a specific direction. Pointing towards oneself is ME, at the audience is YOU, at a random person is THEM-OVER-THERE, but from here it gets even cooler. Pointing at a random decided location in your personal space (known as "sign-space") sets that location up for later. So if I were to sign DOG THAT(left) then the left area of my signspace becomes the dog's area. Every time I point back in that direction, it refers to that dog. Additionally pointing in the same direction with a different handshape can be possessive (a fist ✊ in BSL, an open palm ✋ in ASL). Different sign languages point with different handshapes, and sometimes different parts of the body (eye gaze, nose, tongue, lips). This is all called "indexing".

YOU vs HE/SHE/IT/THEY

Image Source: Indexing American Sign Language (ASL)

Verbs are also very often directional. As I showed in Part 2, verbs can move in different directions depending on who is doing what to what.

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Image Source: American Sign Language (ASL)

But this also often agrees with the indexing - where verbs will move towards and way from these placed indexes. If I pet that dog from the previous example, I would sign STROKE towards the direction that the dog is.

Roleshifts are another uniquely sign language part of grammar. These are where you shift your shoulders, along with your demeanour, to pretend to be another person. These are often used to quote others. Rarely to signers say "She said..." or any equivalent, they just role-shift and become the person saying the thing for a small while.

Classifiers are also a big topic. These are also known as "pro-forms" or "depictive signs". Essentially classifiers are "show-don't-tell" within a language. I like to break it down into three or four categories.

1. Entity Classifiers - with these your entire hand becomes the thing, and like a puppet you can move it about through the air to imitate it's movement. For example the 🤙 handshape in BSL can be an aeroplane, and you can fly it about through the air steadily before shaking violently to show the horrendous turbulence in your last flight.
2. Handling Classifiers - with these you just pretend to hold and use objects. For instance you could hold a bowl and a whisk and mix it about furiously to show how hard it is to make meringue. 
3. Bodily Classifiers - with these you become the thing you are talking about. For instance you could pretend to be a cat and pounce on a mouse.
4. Tracing Classifiers - with these you trace out the shape of something. For instance you could trace out a line of vases that are different sizes and shapes - one square, one round, one voluptuous.

 

Entity Classifiers in ASL: ☝️ = person, ✌️ = legs, 👆+🖕 = vehicle

Image Source: Classifiers: a list of CL handshapes

All Deaf Community Sign Languages (those used by a Deaf community - where the majority of signers are Deaf) use classifiers so far as I am aware. This is, however, not true of sign languages outside of those such as Village Sign Languages, where the majority are hearing with a higher than usual amount of deaf individuals. 

But even amongst Deaf Community Sign Languages - there is plenty of range of what classifiers are used and how. For instance while the 🤙 is a plane in BSL, it is a person in some far east Asian sign languages (I believe one of the Chinese Sign Languages at least). And in America, airplane is 🤟. Also the classifier usually goes after a verb but before a question in the topic-comment structure listed above.

Lastly I want to very briefly touch on expressions (NMFs) - as these can do a lot of work with the grammar. Not all of this is done in a sign. The tilt of a shoulder or change of expression can signal something that you need to know in order to make sense of what is being signed.

Sign languages were also heavily influenced by spoken languages - both by active attempts to make sign languages follow spoken language rules such as l'Épée's attempt back in 1760 or modern ones such as Signed Exact English - and also by bleed over from one language to another. As such three layers exist:

• Sign Languages - full sign languages with sign language grammar, such as ASL, BSL, LSF etc.
• Contact Languages - such as Pidgin Signed English (PSE) (also known as Conceptually Accurate Signed English - CASE) which mix ASL and English grammar.
• Manually Coded Languages - sign systems which use signs following the word order of spoken languages, such as Signed Exact English (SEE).

The boundaries between each of these is often fuzzy, with a small number of signers signing full sign languages with not a hint of spoken language grammar and few signing full manually coded languages with not a hint of sign language grammar - but the majority of signers hovering somewhere between. Where to short-cuts become a contact language? Where do some influences of English on one's signing become a contact language? These are questions that those who wish to preserve sign languages have to wrestle with.

As you can hopefully see, sign language grammar functions on principles that are adjacent to, but different from spoken languages. This is, of course, just an overview - and to learn more you should learn your local sign language. Understanding and representing it correctly is the big prize amongst both linguists and those who wish to write sign languages.

GLOSS

But through all the parts of this so far, some of you may have noticed a glaring absence, the most widely used sign language writing system of all - GLOSS!

Glossing isn't unique to sign languages, it is a tool used by linguists to analyse grammar. Outside sign languages it's usually called interlinear gloss or Leipzig glossing and matches the words and morphemes of one word with words and morphemes with another next to one another:

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That is an easier to read example, but often it looks something like this:

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Image Source: Interlinear gloss - Wikipedia

The small caps word such as "1SG" and "DET" mark the grammar of the language.

• 1SG - first person singular
• SUBJ - subject
• 3SG - 3rd person singular
• OBJ - object
• APPL - applicative voice
• DET - determiner
• POSS - possessive

The punctuation has a specific usage, usually a dash means separate morpheme (meaningful part of a word) whereas dot means part of the same morpheme. 

Words that can be translated into the "metalanguage" (the one being used to do the analysis) are given in lower case.

The rules of sign language glossing. First off, as sign languages don't have accepted writing systems, they are more commonly presented on their own - though sometimes alongside videos, images or drawings of signing. e.g.

• DOG
• CAT

Second, sign language glosses are majority written in capital letters, with hyphens between words when they refer to a singular sign / morpheme. e.g.

• STARE-AT
• GO-TO

Third, they have various strategies for representing sign language grammar:

• "SIGN+SIGN" - compound signs
• "SIGN+", "SIGN++", "SIGN+++" etc - repeated / reduplicated signs
• "fs-WORD" or "FS-WORD" or "(fs)WORD" etc - fingerspelling
• "#WORD" - fingerspelling loan signs, like #DOG in ASL. 
• "IX1", "IX2", "IX-left", "IX-she" etc - indexing, aka pronouns,
• "CL:1 (walk slowly)", "CL:V (running fast)", "CL:3 (zoom past)" etc - classifiers, "CL" just means "classifier", whereas 1, V, 3, etc shows the handshape and the part in brackets tells the reader what action occurred with the classifier, usually in a short English phrase or snippet
• "/\" - eyebrows raised (rare)
• "\/" - eyebrows lowered (rare)
• Other information such as NMFs can usually go in brackets in lower case.

For more on gloss I recommend:

• ForsterJensSteinDanielOrmelEllenCrasbornOnnoNeyHermann--BestPracticeforSignLanguageDataCollectionsRegardingtheNeedsofData-DrivenRecognitionTranslation--2010.pdf
• Gloss in American Sign Language (ASL)
• Glossing: transcription symbols in sign language
• Rules-of-Glossing-in-ASL.pdf

I have most widely seen gloss used in America and sporadically elsewhere in the world. I have heard of it being taught in sign language classes there which is unheard of here in Britain. It is likely the widest used sign language "writing system", especially in America, but there are flaws to that. Namely the fact that the words aren't actually in ASL, they are English words written with the grammar of ASL, thus mismatches occur.

There are precedents for languages using words from others to write their own.

Example of Palahvi

Image Source: Pahlavi scripts - Wikipedia

The Pahlavi script was a script used to write various middle Perisian and other nearby related middle Iranian languages. It was derived from Aramaic and used "heterograms", which were spellings which didn't match the current word. These heterograms were from Imperial Aramaic, a completely different language unrelated to Persian.

But even the Pahlavi script used a mixture of those Persian words in it. The heterograms were there to make it more understandable across audiences, but those words necessary for understanding (especially the grammar) were in the language(s) the people actually used.

'For example, the word for "dog" was written as ⟨KLBʾ⟩ (Aramaic kalbā) but pronounced sag; and the word for "bread" would be written as Aramaic ⟨LḤMʾ⟩ (laḥmā) but understood as the sign for Iranian nān. [...] [these] could also be followed by letters expressing parts of the Persian word phonetically, e.g. ⟨ʾB-tr⟩ for pidar "father". The grammatical endings were usually written phonetically.'

Source: Pahlavi scripts - Wikipedia

Just the heterograms alone would be insufficient to accurately write Persian, and the writing system was eventually dropped in favour of unambiguous alternatives such as the Avestan Alphabet and later the Arabic abjad.

Similarly Gloss is useful, but only half way there. It can express the basic word order of ASL decently well, and denote when certain grammatical features occur - but it often creates situations where a single word in gloss could be multiple signs, and for classifiers it requires writing in snippets of English or whole English sentences. This means that if you are a Deaf child, you have to learn how to write English (a whole different language) before you can write your own).

I say this as someone who has tried. I have written two stories that use gloss to represent the signing of various characters... and while interesting, it was quite insufficient in my experience.

Example of Glossing Used for Dialogue

The above is an extract from the English translation of my short story Y Ddwyleg, published in Welsh in the Gwyllion Magazine: Gwyllion issue 9 Digital Download – Gwyllion.

S. Leigh Ann Cowan who wrote Ranking Deaf Characters in Fiction: Reviews, Analyses, and Tips to Write Better Deaf Characters (Updated Monthly) shared with me an upcoming guide to writing Deaf / signing characters in fiction which she says "I don’t believe glossing is appropriate in literature."*

*this is quoted with her direct consent and may not reflect the wording present in the final released document.

She notes that most examples of gloss in writing are simplified (thus missing many of the grammatical features), ambiguous and appear as broken English, which is especially noticeable when paralleled with characters using fully fluent spoken English. Instead she recommends writing in fully fluent translated sentences for characters in books*. I will talk more about this in my next part covering when and whether it is appropriate (or not appropriate) to use any form of sign language writing - be that gloss or any other.

*her review of my work with gloss in it was positive, despite being against her general advice, but only because I strongly understood what I was doing and my work was very experimental

As such Deaf people do not tend to use gloss when writing much, especially not for anything longer than a few words. This might be partially because gloss often looks like "broken English" - but also it loses the visual part of sign language. A signed sentence feels full and alive, written down on the page as gloss it feels empty and dead, dissected using gloss.

Sign Language Grammar in Sign Language Writing

So unlike gloss, which is writing one language with the words of another, sign language writing has the opportunity to tap directly into the languages themselves.

In the part on Parameter Alphabets I discussed how writing systems can be used to break down the phonology of sign languages. Some only aim to do that such as HamNoSys and explicitly do not aim to be written in longer sentences. But others do.

This presents somewhat of a problem because the current norms for writing sentences and longer texts are based off the norms of spoken languages. Full stops, commas, colons, exclamation marks, question marks. How much of these can be taken wholesale? How much needs to be adapted for sign languages? How much new stuff needs to be invented?

I find that if you just go into this writing word by word, sign by sign, something tends to be lost. Across multiple signs information is conserved, and done so in a very visual way. For instance with the indexing and verb directions. Planning ahead so it all works well together is important. 

Sign Language Grammar in Logographies

There aren't really enough logographies to say if there is a pattern in how they handle it in general - but they can either handle it by depicting what is going on more directly - or introduce symbols that indicate specific grammatical things are going on.

Example of Handtalk

from a previous blog post

While the grammar of Handtalk Pictographs is unclear from the materials I have found - you can observe some modification and arrangement of symbols that seem to indicate... something. What precisely that is, I am unsure. I believe repetition can indicate number via reduplication. There are also modification of the "tracks" / "footsteps" glyph in various situations.

Example of Icoglyphs Sentence

Image made with: Word-by-word translation visualizer — see which words match · Bitext Align

Icoglyphs uses many tricks to accurately capture sign langauge grammar as best as possible. One such trick is glyphs specifically meant to indicate grammatical location. Specifically in the example above: 

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These are grammatical markers that inform the reader of the locations and direction of various signs.

It also has ways of making classifiers using classifier brackets and arrows:

I am biased towards logographies - so I think they do a pretty good job at representing sign language grammar.  However they require a lot of memorisation.

Sign Language Grammar in Projectional Systems

As I explained and demonstrated in Part 2, directionality is one key benefit of projectional systems. You can modify words in order to visually incorporate directionality very easily!

i-ATTACK-you

you-ATTACK-me

Classifiers are also possible, though I feel sometimes without a logographic element they don't quite feel like classifiers. It's hard to place my finger on precisely but again they feel like a diagram rather than a show-don't-tell. In fact it feels like telling me how to show.

Jack and Jill in Sutton Signwriting

In the above example, most of the words are classifiers. The translation would be something like:

• Person one and person one got together - entity classifiers
• Went up together - entity classifiers
• THINK (not a classifier)
• Bucket - tracing classifiers
• Fill up - entity / tracing classifiers
• Person one tumble down - entity classifiers
• Head hurt - bodily classifiers
• Person two tumble down - entity classifiers

"Two people got together and walked up a hill. They thought to fill two buckets. One fell down. The other does too."

It proves it is possible, but I first have to decode this into signs before I can understand it as classifiers.

Sign Language Grammar in Parameter Alphabets

I won't cover this in all alphabets but luckily I don't have to. Many alphabets don't have many adaptations specifically for sign language grammar, instead they write word by word and hope that is good enough.

Signfont uses expression (NMF) markers as punctuation, mostly before the rest of the sentence:

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Signfont grammar

Image Source: Architect: Final Version Signfont Handbook. : Salk Inst. for Biological Studies, San Diego, CA. : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

As far as I am aware the rest of the system makes no special cases for directionality nor classifiers.

ASLfont shows indexing and sign-space locations in a very clear way that could help with sign language grammar recognition:

ASLfont sign-space locations

Image Source: ASL Font: Lesson 6: Locations in Space 1

Location is also marked in a very distinctive way in ASLwrite, with -T and -J being which side of the signspace and entire clause is located:

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Lentz et al. 1993, 45.

These are especially useful for role-shifts. It also has systems for swapping hands and using buoys, both of which are concepts I haven't talked about but are also important grammatical concepts.

Overall - parameter alphabets can and should make unique adaptations for sign language grammar - but each one makes completely different adaptations. This means there is a lack of consistency across them.

This is, of course, the big prize I think a good sign language writing system could win - a way to express not only the phonology (parameters) of sign languages but also the grammar in an unambiguous, clear and efficient way. I think this would also help Deaf signers and learners of sign languages feel more confident about their grammar - as they can see it written down and build stronger associations. It may also help to differentiate sign languages from contact languages or manually coded languages.

Conclusion

Gloss currently exists as a way to represent sign language grammar - but fails as a writing system because it is unwieldy, often ambiguous and requires you to master English (a different language) before being able to write your own language.

Thus sign language writing systems have a huge opportunity to express sign language grammar well, and I believe must in order to succeed. It is the big prize, because writing a single word is "easy", taking the next step to writing not only a single short sentence but longer complicated ones and whole paragraphs, chapters and books needs skill and mastery of all of a language's grammar.

I recommend that anyone looking to make a sign language writing system to think ahead for grammar and not neglect it as you are making the system. I also recommend you dedicate a significant portion of your learning/teaching materials to addressing the grammar. 

I recommend those who are considering choosing a writing system to learn and use look at how it represents grammar before making your decision. 

I recommend writers aiming to write in sign language think about sign language grammar rather than just write word by word. Learn how to structure your overall sentences, punctuation, paragraphs and formatting to do so most effectively in your writing system of choice.

Whether you are new to sign languages or a native signer who has signed your entire life - you probably haven't heard about sign language writing systems. Spoken languages around the world have writing systems so surely sign languages can too? Well, many have been tried and used in brief corners of the world but none have been widely adopted by Deaf communities.

I recommend these resources if you want to learn more about all of those attempts and their histories:

• Sign Language Dictionary - Writing History
• The Hunt for The Perfect Sign Language Writing System (© 2025 Zrajm)

But in this mini-series of posts I want to explain the different types there are so that you, intrepid future sign language writer, may better understand the options and pick which to learn or make.

Last post in this series I talked about Projectional Systems. This post I will talk about Parameter Alphabets.

Fair warning this one is LONG, indepth, and full of jargon. There is just so much to cover that to make it shorter would be to miss out important information. I want to show the entire breadth of sign language alphabets. I have tried my best to keep it easy enough to follow for non-linguists also 😄

• Part 1: Logographies (Reddit Post & Comments Section)
• Part 2: Pojectional Systems (Reddit Post & Comments Section)
• Part 3: Parameter Alphabets <= You are here

       

As this one is too long for reddit - I will post the introduction here (and if I can the first few systems) but I recommend checking out the blog for the full thing!

Alphabets, Syllabaries and Other Phonetic Writing

As I discussed in Part 1: Logographies, the Latin alphabet came from Heiroglyphs. The letter <A> used to be an ox or bull with horns. But how? Why?

Development of the letter A

Development of the entire Alphabet

Image Source: Evolution of the Alphabet Poster – UsefulCharts

Initially, it was that the hieroglyphs were used to mean "sounds like...". So the word for "ox" was " 'alp", so using the ox symbol meant "sounds like 'alp".

This got loaned from language to language, first becoming Proto-Sinaitic, then Phoenician then Greek then Latin. Through this copying the letters lost the associations they once had - so "A" became just a sound, and was no longer linked to "ox" at all.

It also branched out into many different alphabets along the way, such as Norse Runes, Hebrew and Arabic amongst many more. Latin itself was adopted by many languages across Europe and the world, and is the very same writing system that is used in English. Thus alphabets come in many forms.

But what is an alphabet?

The word "alphabet" is used in two ways. In a general sense it is used for any writing system which writes the sounds of a language. Another words for this are "phonetic writing systems". This applies to most languages, such as Spanish where each letter always represents a sound. English is weirder - because it's writing system is only semi-phonetic, and the spelling depends on the history of the word. However at its core the letters still represent sounds, even if not in a 1:1 way.

Not all sound-based writing is the same. There are; 

• True Alphabets - writes both consonants and vowels as separate letters, like Latin
• Syllabaries - writes whole syllables like "ka" as one letter, like Japanese.
• Abjad - writes only consonants, with no vowels or only optional vowels, like Arabic and Hebrew.
• Abugidas - writes consonants, then vowels are written as additional modifiers, like Devanagari (Hindi & Sanskrit).

All of the above are "alphabets", but not all are "true alphabets".

Alphabet, Syllabary & Abugida comparison

In Arabic the vowel marks are optional, they are not used the majority of the time.

Image Sources: 7.1 Writing Systems – Psychology of Language, A really good video on how to evolve a naturalistic tri-consonantal root system : r/conlangs**r/conlangs

Parameters - Sign Language Phonetics

This is the part many people get confused, because sign languages don't use sounds. How can they have "phonetics", "phon-" means sound?

Well the equivalent of phonetics in sign languages are parameters. We still call it "phonetics" by analogy, because it works a similar way, but it needs you to learn a few concepts.

While there is some debate about the finer details, the most common model is the HOLME model:

• H - Handshape - the shape the hand makes with the fingers.
• O - Orientation - the direction the hand (palm, fingers, etc) are pointing.
• L - Location - the place the sign is in space or on the body.
• M - Movement - the direction and way the hand moves.
• E - Non-Manual Features / NM Markers / NM Signals / NM Expressions (called E for "expression") - what the face and rest of the body does.

An example of the five parameters

A brief explanation of the 5 parameters, with Signwriting examples

A diagram of the 5 parameters

Image Sources: 5 Parameters of ASL "TRUE" v.s. "TELL", Pin by Leslie Grahn on Instructional Resources: American Sign Language | Instructional resources, American sign language, Language, Phonological parameters of sign language: articulation point (AP), hand... | Download Scientific Diagram

So based on this:

• A True Alphabet would be one where each parameter is noted as individual letters (to the best of the ability of the designer, with the knowledge available about sign language linguistics at the time).
• A Syllabary would be one where multiple parameters are grouped together into single symbols, especially if centred on the movement as that is often considered the syllabic core signs.
• An Abjad would be one where some parameters are written, whilst others remain unwritten (at least, most of the time). This applies specifically to HOLM. E is considered a separate case, which I will explain below*.
• An Abugida would be one where one parameter is the base, and other parameters modify that base.

*Notably I wouldn't consider lack of expression (NMFs) to be enough to consider a system an abjad. Expression is somewhat akin to emphasis, intonation or tone in spoken languages. All spoken languages use tone, intonation and emphasis in some way - some as part of their words, some as part of their grammar and some purely as personal affectation - but very few writing systems mark it. Those that do often employ very different strategies tailored to that specific language's needs. 

Similarly expressions are used differently in different sign languages. Some, such as ASL, only use expressions grammatically and as personal choice. Others such as BSL use mouthing to differentiate between signs (e.g. NEPHEW vs BATTERY). As such, so long as the writing system can differentiate minimal pairs (words with only one parameter difference) with HOLM (but no E), I would still consider it still a True Alphabet.

Importantly all of said systems are linear, rather than projectional. This means they are written in sequence and can be read as such, rather than location in 2D space impacting meaning. An example like Korean is still linear in this example because there is a correct order to write and read glyphs, it's not freeform or highly 2D.

You could consider SignWriting or ASLwrite forms of Alphabet or Syllabary or Abugida if you want, but projectional systems break the known categories so will be ignored.

Before continuing I need to talk about one last concept.

Featural vs Arbitrary, Iconic vs Symbolic

Most alphabets are arbitrary. That means that the shapes of letters have no relationship to the sounds they make. They make those specific sounds because of the history up to this point.

But then there are iconic and featural systems, which overlap a lot and people get them confused. Korean is the key example.

Korean letters corresponding to mouth shapes

Korean letters

Image Sources: Lessons from Hangeul – Fonts Knowledge - Google Fonts, Learn to write your name in Korean : 한글 The Korean Alphabet — Steemit

As you can see Korean letters resemble shapes of the mouth - making them iconic and similar letters share similar shapes, making it featural. People get these confused because Korean is both, but there are non-iconic featural writing systems, such as Canadian Aboriginal Syllabics. 

Canadian Aboriginal Syllabics Table

Image Source: Canadian Aboriginal Syllabics

These are featural because similar sounds share a similar letter, but NOT iconic because the shapes of the letters are ultimately (to my knowledge) symbolic (random).

While the words "arbitrary" and "symbolic" exist as contrasts to "featural" and "iconic", the rest of this post already uses enough jargon that from here on out I will only be using "non-featural" and "non-iconic".

Sign Language Alphabets & More

So, finally I can get to the alphabets. I think it would be best go go in order and show how one attempt affected the next! There are way too many different system to get into every single one, so I will be going over only those I consider notable.

In the case of arbitrary (non-featural) and symbolic (non-iconic) I will not note it because that is the global default.

Fair warning - this next section contains 12 different parameter alphabets because people often feel the need to make their own either in ignorance of, or because they can do better than, other attempts.

14, no 15 competing systems and growing

Image Source: xkcd: Standards

This can be annoying - as it feels as if perhaps it would have been better had we just picked one, stuck to it, and honed it over time. But on the flip-side - each is unique in some ways and something new can be learned from each of them, even the ones you dislike!

Mimographie

Featural Iconic Semi-Syllabary

(1825)

The second earliest form of sign language writing system (bar Handtalk Pictographs), this was made in the Institution Nationale des Sourds-Muets à Paris, the birthplace of Deaf Education. It was made by Roch-Ambroise Auguste Bébian, one of the first hearing teachers of the deaf to become fluent in French Sign Language (LSF) and a strong advocate of it.

Mimographie handshapes and locations

Mimographie movements

Mimographie examples

Image Soruce: Mimographie, ou essai d'ecriture mimique

Analysis of this script is made harder by the fact that the main document about it is written in French, much of it handwritten. Perhaps one day I would love to translate this into English and make a modern day font for the writing system!

Handshape and Orientation are combined into single symbols, which are rotations of one-another. Location and movement seem to be individual letters. Location seems to primarily be bodyparts. Expressions (NMFs) are also present as the exclamation-mark style characters.

I can't quite discern the whole of the order, but it appears to be Location, then Handshape with Orientation for both hands, then Movement, then Expression. Thus the basic order is L[HO]ME, but I am not sure if what the deeper nuances are, nor how strict this is.

Categorisation & Review

It is a good example of a featural and iconic script, where the letterforms are intended to resemble the shapes and orientations of the hands. In terms of status:

• H & O - these are merged into a single symbol.*️⃣ 
• L - present✅
• M - present✅
• E - present ✅
• Basic One-Hand Order: L[HO]ME
• Complex Two Hand Order: L[HO]¹[HO]²ME (uncertain)
• Syllabary
  • Featural
  • Iconic

I'd argue that Mimographie is a Semi-syllabary. That is to say some letters act like syllables, others like true alphabet letters. A true sign language syllabary would go further than this, perhaps combing L and M or similar.

Praise**:** This occupies a historic place, despite it being largely forgotten. I appreciate a good attempt, even if said attempt did not take off. It also likely represents the earliest phonological analysis of sign languages, which resulted in something very similar to the parameter analysis.

Criticism**:** The biggest issue I have with this system, and attempt overall, is that it relies so much on being able to read the French portions to get it. More diagrams and demonstrations would be good. It's hard to criticise without further information. As far as I can tell, it also seems to be lacking in handshape information.

[I will skip a few in this Reddit Post in order to get to the ones I consider most notable - a full account of all systems I have reviewed is available on my blog]

Stokoe Notation

Semi-Iconic Alphabet

(1960)

William Stokoe is a key figure in the history of sign languages. He was one of the first people to linguistically analyse ASL and used Stokoe Notation to do it!

The Stokoe system was initially made with a modified typewriter, as such most symbols are reused symbols that can be found on a typewriter, although some appear drawn.

Stokoe letters per parameter

Expressions in Stokoe Notation (rarely used)

Image Sources: Sign Language Structure: An Outline of the Visual Communication Systems of the American Deaf, 3.9 Signed language notation – Essentials of Linguistics, 2nd edition

This is the birthplace of modern parameter analysis. While it called them other terms (DEZ = Handshape, TAB = Location, SIG = movement and orientation) it has all the elements.

Handshapes each have a separate letter (holsitic). Locations are defined as locations on the body - with a single neutral space location (bodily). Movements and orientations are both absolute meaning they describe directions away-from, towards, left, right, up and down of the signer. It is sometimes stated that Stokoe lacks a way of writing Expressions (NMFs) but this is incorrect! It does have expressions, but only 3 - and they are rarely used.

A longer text in Stokoe

A breakdown of a longer text in Stokoe

Image Sources: Stokoe notation - Wikipedia, 1. A sample sentence represented in Stokoe Notation System: "the woods,... | Download Scientific Diagram

Glyphs are arranged in a mostly linear structure, with some super-script and sub-script letters. Additionally dots and lines are sometimes used as diacritics above and below letters. Sometimes you will see glyphs stacked on top of one-another but not in all versions, as completely linear ASCII/Unicode compatible versions of the system are available. 

Location is placed first, followed by handshape followed by the superscript movement and subscript orientation. Thus the basic order is LHₒᴹ In cases with two hands each hand appears to be indicated separately. Thus the complicated order would be L1H1ₒ₁L2H2ₒ₂ᴹ (where 1 is the dominant hand and 2 is the non-dominant hand). This appears to be very strict.

As such I believe that Stokoe is a true alphabet. Some letters are iconic, like the arrows (orientation and movement) as well as the bodypart locations. But even this iconicity is limited.

Stokoe was highly successful for a while - with dictionaries published in ASL and BSL at least. Additionally apparently one person has their name on their birth certificate in a modified form of Stokoe Notation (apparently meaning "Smile"). But momentum petered out, partially due to the complexity of the system preventing it from being adopted in every-day use, in addition to a desire to explore other systems arising.

Categorisation & Review

• H - present, holistic✅
• O - present, shares a set of characters with M, written as subscript, absolute✅
• L - present, bodily✅
• M - present, shares a set of characters with O, written as superscript, absolute✅
• E - present, but under-specified and under-utilised.✅
• Basic One-Hand Order: LHₒᴹ
• Complex Two-Hand Order: L1H1ₒ₁L2H2ₒ₂ᴹ
• Alphabet 
  • Semi-Iconic
  • Non-Featural

At the time the importance of expressions (NMFs) was not well understood. I would consider Stokoe Notation to be an alphabet once again because all parameters were present to the best of Stokoe's ability.

Praise**:** Another one which is historic in the development of sign language writing systems. It represented a leap forwards in the linguistic analysis of sign languages.

Criticism**:** The choice of symbols that Stokoe makes results in it being quite hard to write as technology has progressed. Aesthetically it also looks quite confusing, in a way that I feel is quite beginner unfriendly and pushes away prospective learners before the get used to it. Like I mentioned above, I believe the complexity of the system prevented it from being adopted into broader use within the Deaf community. Conversely, I don't believe it provides an adequate way to express some of the more advanced sign language grammar - such as classifiers, which makes writing longer passages in it difficult.

On perhaps a broader level, I think it loses something that sign languages value - spatialness and iconicity. Abstracting down to a linear sequence of arbitrary and symbolic characters means we lose a lot of what makes a sign language feel like a sign language - the way signs look like what they mean is lost. This critique is true of many of the writing systems from this point forwards, especially ones that aim to be used outside of an academic context (which was attempted somewhat with Stokoe, such as the creation of dictionaries).

[Another few systems will be skipped here]

HamNoSys (Hamburg Notation System)

Featural Iconic Alphabet

(1984)

According to the DGS Korpus website, HamNoSys exists within the "Stokoe" tradition of phonetic transcription systems. However, it does away with almost all of the glyphs Stokoe himself invented, and instead creates its own featural iconic glyphs. As implied by the name, it was originally created by the University of Hamburg, in Germany.

HamNoSys breakdown

HamNoSys examples

Image Sources: Structure of HamNoSys Notation system | Download Scientific Diagram, PPT - Signs for the future PowerPoint Presentation, free download - ID:5108051

Handshapes recieve individual letters - but there are also ways to modify these with diacritics to produce new handshapes. There is both body-locations and some more detailed neutrals space locations. Movement and orientation are both absolute, meaning that they show directions towards, away-from, left, right, up and down from the signer. It seems like NMFs have only been added in later iterations and are under-developed - mostly reusing glyphs already present for locations and movements.

The order of parameters is seems to be broadly handshape, orientation, location then movement - linearised from left to right. Some letters "drift" upwards and downwards but these aren't considered modifiers to any baseline. Where expression is included, it seems to go on the start, as does a mirroring mark. Thus the basic order is EHOLM. Where both hands are used doing different things, the parameters are noted in the same location as the other hand. As such the two complicated order is: [H¹H²][O¹O²][L¹L²][M¹M²].

HamNoSys has found a decent amount of success in academia - both in sign language studies and within gesture research. It is also in general more prevalent in the EU than anywhere else with a lot of work on German Sign Language (Deutsche Gebärdensprache - DGS) being done in the system. There are also some projects which use HamNoSys to programme virtual avatars to make signs.

It aims for maximal detail - breaking down signs into all their relevant parameter information. It does not aim to be a practical writing system as such, but instead a tool for academia.

Categorisation & Review

• H - present, holisitc (though somewhat finger configurational)✅
• O - present, absolute✅
• L - present✅
• M - present, absolute✅
• E - present, but under-developed.✅
• Basic One-Hand Order: EHOLM
• Complex Two-Hand Order: E[H¹H²][O¹O²][L¹L²][M¹M²]
• Alphabet 
  • Featural
  • Iconic

As such this is clearly an alphabet.

Praise**:** It is seemingly one of the most comprehensive transcription systems available. The move away from being language specific like Stokoe was also helps it be more widely useful, and its iconic featural nature makes it somewhat more intuitive. 

Criticism**:** This is the first system for me to hit what I call the sprawling word problem. As you can see, even simple signs like "ME" have 6 or 7 characters. Signs like "NAME" sprawl even more across the page. Stokoe managed this by using sub- and super- script, though you can detect it even there and in Bergman - a need to write half a dozen individual symbols for even a simple sign.

This is less of a problem for HamNoSys because it is not trying to be a writing system but instead a transcription system. However I still think this is a problem. The longer and more sprawling any word is, the more difficult it is to process. This makes sense for complex signs, which would be the equivalent of long words - but if a system unnecessarily inflates the size of words then it becomes an impediment. 

Aaaaaaaaaand we have reached the image limit. As this is a long post, I reccomend you check out the rest of it on my blog available here: https://lukapona.blogspot.com/2026/05/how-to-write-sign-language-part-3.html

I may include some images in the comments demonstrating some other alphabets, but for now I will skip to some conclusions:

Conclusions

In this post I have analysed the following systems:

• Mimographie (1825) - Featural Iconic Semi-Syllabary: L[HO]ME
• Kinemics (1960) - Alphabet, probably?: unsure
• Stokoe Notation (1960) - Semi-Iconic Alphabet: LHₒᴹ (E rare)
• Bergman Notation (1977) - Semi-Iconic, Semi-Featural Alphabet: HOLM (no E)
• HamNoSys (1984) - Featural Iconic Alphabet: EHOLM
• Signfont (1987) - Featural Iconic Alphabet: E HALM
• ASLphabet (1992) - Featural Iconic Abjad: HLM (no O, no E)
• ELiS (1997) - Featural Iconic Alphabet - HOLME
• SLIPA (2003) - Semi-featural Alphabet: HᴼLᴬM E
• ASLfont (& RSLfont) (2013) - Featural Iconic Alphabet: HOLME
• Auswrit (2022) - Featural Iconic Abugida: [HO][HO]LM (E incomplete)
• SLDWS (2024) - Featural Alphabet: HOLM (no E)

In writing this I have gained a deeper appreciation for alphabets. Up until this point I had never felt satisfied by any alphabetic sign language writing system. They seemed complicated and difficult to process - like a step by step recipe rather than a word my brain could process quickly.

But now I have written this whole blog-post I now see the incredible work, time and consideration that went into each of these. Even the ones I dislike the most and criticise most heavily are still labours of love. And each has some new perspective to offer us.

We need to think about its purpose. One of the more complicated and detailed systems (e.g. HamNoSys) may be a good option for academia, but would be too clunky to use for everyday use. If we want to use an alphabet for writing every day sign languages... I think we aren't there yet.

Of the options presented I think something to learn the most from in this regard is ASLphabet. The choice to make spellings simpler by missing out information and letting the reader guess from context could be a big leg up in efficiency over other systems that go for maximum detail. I think efficiency of this sort or similar is what would be needed if we were to ever aim for mass adoption.

Ultimately I am still not the biggest fan of sign language alphabets, nor a user of one. While perhaps technically possible, I think they strip away some of the visual-ness that is so important to sign languages. If projectional systems feel more like a diagram than than a word, parameter alphabets feel more like an ingredients list. I have also yet to see classifiers done "well" in them, that is to say in a way that I see and understand as classifiers.

My heart lies with logographies and projectional systems - which retain that visual aspect far more clearly.

Thank you so much for the response the other day to my post! I have part two for you all!

Last week multiple people mentioned (Sutton) Signwriting and ASLwrite. As promised here is the post covering those.

I would love your feedback and thoughts once again!

Some of the images have transparent backgrounds, and thus may not work well if you use Reddit in dark mode. Also due to Reddit limiting me to 20 images per post, I cannot post this all as one, so I will need to continue this post in the comments section.

If you are expediting issues you can also read this it on my blog 😄. I also post new parts there early!

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Whether you are new to sign languages or a native signer who has signed your entire life - you probably haven't heard about sign language writing systems. Spoken languages around the world have writing systems so surely sign languages can too? Well, many have been tried and used in brief corners of the world but none have been widely adopted by Deaf communities.

I recommend these resources if you want to learn more about all of those attempts and their histories:

• Sign Language Dictionary - Writing History
• The Hunt for The Perfect Sign Language Writing System (© 2025 Zrajm)

But in this mini-series of posts I want to explain the different types there are so that you, intrepid future sign language writer, may better understand the options and pick which to learn or make.

Last post in this series I talked about logographies. This post I will talk about Projectional Systems.

• Part 1: Logographies (Reddit Post)
• Part 2: Pojectional Systems <= You are here

Projectional Systems

The concept of projectional systems is deliciously simple. How should we write sign languages? Why not just draw the hands doing stuff! As such projectional systems use both simplified drawings of the hands and body, as well as relative positions of said glyphs to create a sign.

Index Finger

Index Finger on the Lipslike the \"hush\" gesture

Images made with: SignMaker 2017

This opens up both great opportunities and major problems. 

Sign languages are 3D languages. They use space and directions in their vocabulary and grammar. Projectional systems use the 2D space on the page to mimic that 3D spatial / directional grammar.

For instance verbs (like ATTACK in British Sign Language) change direction depending on who did what to who; I-ATTACK-YOU will travel from me to you, whereas YOU-ATTACK-ME will travel towards myself.

I-ATTACK-YOU

YOU-ATTACK-ME

images sketched with paint

Sign languages are also visual languages and use iconicity - where signs look like what they mean. In the previous part I discussed how logographies can use this iconicity for their glyphs. Instead projectional writing systems directly depict what the hands are doing, which often capture that same iconicity that is present in the signs.

Ball

Image adapted from: ASL: 3D Object by Garrett Bose in Sutton SignWriting

Oral Languages - there's nothing quite like it

But unlike logographies, projectional systems are unique amongst world languages. No spoken language writing system works this way. Some scripts like Korean (Hangeul), Ancient Egyptian Hieroglyphs and Mayan glyphs have some similarities - but none allow glyphs to be arranged as freely as projectional systems do, with where they are placed so drastically changing the meaning.

Korean Hangeul is said to be based on the shapes the tongue / mouth makes to make certain sounds. Additionally the letters are arranged into 2D blocks by stacking them on-top of one another.

Shapes of the mouth and relation to Korean letters

Image Source: Lessons from Hangeul – Fonts Knowledge - Google Fonts

Patterns of Hangeul Blocks (two letters)

Patterns of Hangeul Blocks (three letters)

Patterns of Hangeul Blocks (four letters)

Image Source: History and Hangul > Korean Language > Overview > ibs

But as becomes evident, the combinations of are far more limited than what projectional systems allow. There are only specific patterns in which the letters of Hangeul can be arranged into blocks, you cannot just place them anywhere.

Other heiroglyphic systems such as Egyptian have some more freeform glyph placement, as I showed in the previous part:

Mouth = \"R\", Arm = \"A\", Sun = the sun.Total meaning: Ra, the sun.

Image Source: Ancient Egyptian and Emoji Chain Letters - by Dylan Black

Hieroglyphs left to right flexible writing / reading order

Image Source: Egyptian Hieroglyphs: Lesson 1 – Egyptian Hieroglyphs

While the arrangement of these glyphs can be complicated, they are also highly flexible. Projectional systems on the other hand are not flexible, as if you change the arrangement of glyphs in a character, you change the meaning of the character.

The fact that they are novel poses issues, as there is no precedent for what such a system would look like if codified nor digitised. 

What does accurate spelling look like if you can use glyphs in any combination, orientation and position on the page? 

How do you even encode such a system for writing digitally?

The two big examples of Projectional writing systems are Sutton Signwriting and the Si5S-SLwrite family of systems.

Sutton Signwriting

Sutton Signwriting (most often shortened to Signwriting) was developed by Valerie Sutton out of her previous work, Dancewriting, at the request of the University of Copehagen in 1974. As a system it shows signs directly using simplified drawings of the hands, body, face and arrows. It uses shading to indicate some information such as orientation, which is very rare amongst world languages.

\"Sign Writing\" in Signwriting

Image Source: SignWriting - Wikipedia

Signwriting brief visual explanation

Image Source: Sutton SignWriting - Omniglot

Sutton Signwriting found early success back when it was first developed but didn't manage to maintain this momentum in most of the world. It has been adapted to most global sign languages and has found niche use over time. The largest body of use is in Brazil, where it has been adapted by Deaf education and academia. There is a dissertation written and numerous children's books written in LIBRAS using Sutton Signwriting.

Jack and Jill in Signwriting

Image Source: 2. Sutton SignWriting Notation(SSW) for the nursery rhyme, "Jack and... | Download Scientific Diagram

There has been significant work creating materials for Sutton Signwriting, adapting it to sign languages around the globe as well as making it more digitally compatible. I will talk more about digitisation later in this post.

Goldilocks in Signwriting

Image Source: Sutton SignWriting - Omniglot

There is also a handwritten (cursive / shorthand) form of Sutton Signwriting, but it looks very different from its standard printed/digital form.

Sign Writing Shorthand For Sign Language Stenography

Example of handshape simplification for shorthand

Example of Shorthand A: I don't know what this says

Example of Shorthand B: I believe this is Goldilocks

Image Sources: SignWriting Handwriting and Shorthand, SignWriting Handwriting, SignWriting Shorthand For Sign Language Stenography 1982

Review

Positive: Sutton Signwriting is easy to read individual signs, and even has some longer texts written in it. It also undoubtedly occupies a historic place in the development of sign language writing. The availability of resources in and about so many different languages is also a big bonus. It is many people's first introduction and intuitively demonstrates yes... maybe this is possible.

Negative: However it is hard to write both on paper (because it requires shading) and digitally (because it requires positioning). The handwritten form seems easier to write, but looks very different from it's regular printed form and is way harder to decode - additionally I have never actually seen it used anywhere before. As I have said, I will talk about digitisation later in this post, but it's all quite difficult to learn and clunky to use. Additionally - being so wide as to include so many sign languages risks it becoming a jack-of-all-trades-master-of-none. I for one believe it would be perfect for a dictionary, perhaps an equivalent to the International Phonetic Alphabet, as it can show how signs are produced. But I am hesitant to adopt it as an every-day writing system.

Reddit only lets me upload 20 images per post, so I will continue this post in the comments below! 😄

https://lukapona.blogspot.com/2026/04/how-to-write-sign-language-part-1.html

Hi r/deaf - after Helen's recent post and some calls for me to share my nerdier work here. I have decided to do so! The following post is a copy of a blogpost on my blog, which I link above :)

I would LOVE to hear your thoughts. Should sign languages be written? If so, how do you think they should be written? If not why not? What do you think about using a logography for writing sign language?

Also is my writing accessible to a non-nerd audience? Is there anything you would like me to explain further? I mostly discuss this amongst other linguistics nerds.

I will take your feedback onboard going forward with this series.

Also - a little background on me. I am a hard of hearing BSL signer with a degree in linguistics and Deaf Studies. I find sign language writing systems fascinating and wish they were used more widely. This series is my attempt to share the wide diversity there is out there with the world! :D

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Whether you are new to sign languages or a native signer who has signed your entire life - you probably haven't heard about sign language writing systems. Spoken languages around the world have writing systems so surely sign languages can too? Well, many have been tried and used in brief corners of the world but none have been widely adopted by Deaf communities.

I recommend these resources if you want to learn more about all of those attempts and their histories:

• Sign Language Dictionary - Writing History
• The Hunt for The Perfect Sign Language Writing System (© 2025 Zrajm)

But in this mini-series of posts I want to explain the different types there are so that you, intrepid future sign language writer, may better understand the options and pick which to learn or make. First I will cover Logographies.

Logographies

A logography is a writing system where a single character represents a concept, instead of a sound. Sometimes this comes in the form of one-character-per-word, and sometimes these are little pictures of the concept in question (also called "pictographic") but it need not be. This is the rarest type of writing system, both for sign languages and spoken languages. 

For spoken languages this is how writing started - little pictures that represent words. From there it became more complicated then simplified. Even modern English letters, the ones I am using to write this very sentence, came from this. The capital A, for instance, is an upside-down picture of an ox's head.

Development of the Letter A

Oral Language Examples

Spoken languages have a number of key examples. More used to exist, but now only one remains. Chinese Characters. It has evolved over time, once having been more pictographic (little pictures) before becoming more and more abstract and logographic (representing an idea).

Development of Chinese Characters

Image Source: Different Chinese characters in various forms throughout time. The... | Download Scientific Diagram

But the Chinese script is not fully logographic. Instead many characters are "phono-semantic" meaning that within one character some parts hint at the meaning, and other parts hint at the sound.

Breakdown of Chinese Characters

Image Source: Frontiers | Will the embedded semantic radicals be activated when recognizing Chinese phonograms?

Additionally languages like Japanese mix logographic and sound based characters. In Japanese these Kanji (Chinese Characters) and Hiragana & Katakana (syllabic characters).

Breakdown of a Japanese sentence.

Image Source: The Japanese Writing System Explained: Hiragana, Katakana & Kanji

Even ancient logographic writing systems were often much more complicated than "little pictures which represent the meaning". Some glyphs meant sounds, others represented the meaning.

Mouth = \"R\", Arm = \"A\", Sun = the sun.Total meaning: Ra, the sun.

Image Source: Ancient Egyptian and Emoji Chain Letters - by Dylan Black

So, all in all a logography need not be totally logographic in order to be one, and a logography doesn't need to be only a logography. It just needs to make significant use of logographic characters. 

So, in sign languages I can think of precisely two examples:

Handtalk Pictographs

Much about the history of the indigenous North Americans has been destroyed by colonisation. One example is the pictographic script. A number of surviving accounts (and, I believe, oral histories) link this script to Handtalk - and numerous glyphs clearly have strong resemblances to Handtalk signs.

Handtalk, also known as Plains Indian Sign Language was/is an trans-cultural language for the various tribes of the plains indigenous people. The many tribes spoke very different languages, so Handtalk was used by them to communicate and trade, as well as having ritual significance. Handtalk is still around, and still holds a role within indigenous cultures. Here is some introductory information:

• The hidden history of “Hand Talk” - YouTube
• American Sign Language & Plains Indian Sign Language (PISL) - YouTube
• Plains Indian Sign Language - Wikipedia
• Plains Indian Sign Language: Storytelling with Lanny Real Bird and Harry Sitting Bear - YouTube

It is unclear how related they are/were.

Was this a written form of the sign language? Did Handtalk signs just provided the inspirations for individual characters, and the writers were actually reading/writing their respective spoken languages? Alternatively, was it intended to be a direct and full representation of any language - instead acting as a mnemonic device, read and/or signed aloud with extra words inserted to produce the full story?

Despite these uncertainties, the similarities are striking!

A story written in Handtalk Pictographs

A list of Pictographs and signs they resemble.

A depiction of an indigenous person writing a story.

Image Source: Universal Indian sign language of the Plains Indians of North America, together with a simplified method of study, a list of words in most general use, a codification of pictographic symbols of the Sioux and Ojibway, a dictionary of synonyms, a history of sign language, chapters on smoke signaling, use of idioms, etc : Tomkins, William : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

It is also unclear precisely how logographic this system was/wasn't. The above examples are quite directly pictographic (little pictures) but other examples seem to be far more abstracted and complicated, implying more was going on than a the simplified "its little pictures" narrative would say. Below is one such example, a letter sent in the mail to a student at a boarding school for indigenous children (another dark chapter in indiginous history):

https://preview.redd.it/8s4hv5ivhyyg1.png?width=400&format=png&auto=webp&s=c3c88aad97b61ab0aa5edf3e44c5b5f3a934c3b2

Image Source: Who put Native American sign language in the US mail? | OUPblog

Regardless of these uncertainties it is an often overlooked part of sign language history, and we should not under-estimate the people who used this script - who were clearly able to read and write this fluently, efficiency and with great depth of information.

 Review

Going forwards I am going to be reviewing each of the scripts, but not this one. All other systems are attempts at writing sign languages. This was a success. Not only that - it arose naturally with no direct intent to create a writing system.

Its disappearance was not due to any design flaws, being replaced, being rejected by the community nor evolving into something else. Instead the culture it was a part of was brutally oppressed and the people who practice it were genocided.

I for one would love to see indigenous people revive this script. I think more people should know and remember it. I think we could all learn something from it.

Icoglyphs

Icoglyphs is my own system system which I have been making for a number of years. It is named Icoglyphs because it uses the same iconicity (tendency for signs to look like what they mean) that signs themselves have.

Formerly called BANZSLogo, it is created to write the BANZSL language family, namely the British (BSL), Australian (Auslan) and New Zealand (NZSL) sign languages.

The opening of The North Wind & The Sun in Icoglyphs (BSL)

It takes inspiration visually from the Handtalk Pictographs, Sitelen Pona, Ancient Chinese (oracle bone script) and Ancient Egyptian - and structural inspiration from Chinese and Japanese.

A passage from The Magnus Archives translated into BSL.

It is a mixed system similar to Japanese. As such the majority of glyphs are logograms / pictograms, but it also contains the alphabet, numbers, punctuation, grammatical markers and parameters. These are intended to be used in conjunction to create a written form that is intuitive to read and write. 

A demonstration of Icoglyphs

As of right now this is still a work in progress and I have yet to fully release it. I will publish more about this system soon, so watch this space.

 Review

I am of course biased because this is my project.

Positives: While the system is not fully released as of yet I have had a lot of success writing longer texts and reading back my own work. Additionally I have found feedback to be generally positive and people are generally able to make decent educated guesses of individual signs when written. 

Negatives: I find there is some concern that this system is too complicated, with too many characters to memorise - and I agree. However I don't see this as the end-state but the start. It would like to see it start here and evolve towards something more streamlined by cutting away what we find we don't need.

Conclusions

The rarity of logographies is very understandable. They are hard to make and hard to memorise. Humans look for patterns and efficiencies wherever possible. Thus with writing it may often start logographic but often simplifies towards something more phonetic over time.

Logographies are particularly useful for sign languages as the imagery provided within the iconicity of a sign language (meaning that signs look like what they mean) can often be translated into the logographic/pictographic form.

I think if the world were full of sign languages in place of spoken ones, the first writing systems would still have been logographies. Perhaps more would have survived into the current day also due to the nature of sign languages being iconic.

Perhaps if Handtalk hadn't been decimated, it could have provided a basis for true sign language writing. Perhaps if Icoglyphs is adopted by others it will also.

But regardless, I consider logographies a good first step on the road, not a last step.

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Stay tuned for next time where I will be looking at Projectional Systems!

o pona!

So I have some work in progress thoughts which I'd like to run past some people for feedback.

In short - The Authenticity Problem is that as soon as I detect any AI use in someone's content I immediately can no longer trust it to be authentic.

My reasoning is this - if they are willing to use AI for one thing, why not for more? Maybe they make a personal choice not to do so, but they clearly don't have strong ethical convictions against using it.

Lets take an example of a blog post. So they used an AI to make images, what about helping them write? What about writing the whole thing? How much, if any, is their own thoughts anymore? How can I know?

This is especially true if they don't openly and clearly disclose their AI use. Even worse if they try and hide it. What else could they be "cheating" on?

And I don't hate all uses. I know multiple people who aren't very good at English who use LLMs to help them write better in English. I don't hate that as a concept. There are also artists who make very high effort art that uses AI in some way. I try to separate that out from anti-authentic AI use - but I also know people who aren't fully fluent English who use AI in a very anti-authentic way too!

This matters to me because when I engage with content, be that as a passive consumer or someone who is interacting with the person making it, I want to know that the expression is the authentic thoughts and feelings of the creator. Even if not using AI, mass produced "slop" is just worse than authentic expression. So when people use AI, they take away this authenticity.

Note: I personally avoid using AI for numerous ethical reasons. Despite this I have been accused of AI use myself a few times, I think because I tend to write in quite a formal style that AI output seems to be somewhat similar to. This hurts precisely because it triggers the Authenticity Problem - that an accusation of AI is an accusation of my own thoughts not being my own.

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I'd appreciate thoughts and feedback on this issue.