Genuinely losing hope now, questioning a lot. I’ve tried everything. What am I missing here?
Genuinely at the point where I don’t know what else to look at. I’ve been dealing with severe chronic bloating/distension for a long time now and it feels like I’ve tried nearly every obvious SIBO/gut route.
My main symptom is constant bloating/distension, often there even when I haven’t eaten. It can cause back pressure/soreness and makes me feel trapped in my body. I’m not looking for sympathy as much as I’m trying to figure out what I’m missing. Is this still SIBO? Is SIBO just a symptom of something deeper? Motility? Bile? Pancreatic enzymes? H. pylori? Mold? Pelvic floor? Nervous system?
My sibo test was hydrogen, but I sometimes get the eggy farts, but h2s was negative... i dont even know what to believe.
Testing and findings so far
• Hydrogen positive SIBO pattern with early rise
• Dysbiosis on stool testing
• Klebsiella overgrowth noted
• Fungal/Candida concerns
• Very low beneficial flora, including very low Lactobacillus
• High gut permeability markers, including high zonulin
• Mold/mycotoxin concerns, including elevated ochratoxin/gliotoxin type findings
• Histamine/MCAS type symptoms
• Past H. pylori history, not sure if it fully stayed gone
• Concerns about bile flow, liver/gallbladder function and pancreatic enzymes
• Some blood/mineral issues, including copper/zinc imbalance concerns in the past
• Symptoms often feel worse with fermentation, carbs, histamine foods, stress and gut stagnation
Things I’ve tried..Probiotics and microbiome rebuilding
• S. boulardii
• Spore probiotics
• Seed probiotic
• Custom probiotic blends
• L. gasseri
• Ruscio style probiotic approach
• Considering coconut kefir
• Past bad reaction to L. reuteri, which seemed to trigger a major SIBO style flare
• Tried to rebuild flora but I’m worried probiotics may also worsen small intestine overgrowth
Antimicrobials and antifungals
• SF722
• Caprylic acid
• Berberine type approaches
• Oregano type approaches
• Antifungal thinking for Candida/SIFO
• Biofilm/NAC type thinking
• Mastic gum for H. pylori concerns
• Herbal antimicrobial phases
• I’ve tried killing approaches but I’m not convinced they fixed the terrain
I even did elemental for 3 weeks, and a 4.5 fast as someone said that fixed them! Not for me...Even did rifaximin.
Gut lining support
• GI Revive type formulas
• L glutamine
• Zinc carnosine
• DGL
• Colostrum
• Slippery elm/mucosal support type thinking
• Considering Colilen or gut coating products
• Trying to calm permeability and irritation rather than just kill bacteria
Motility support
• Ginger/artichoke motility complex
• Iberogast
• Artichoke leaf
• Magnesium
• Meal spacing
• Walking after meals
• Considering prokinetic route more seriously
• Wondering if MMC dysfunction is the actual root
Bile/liver/gallbladder support
• Artichoke
• Liver herbs
• Bitter/digestive support
• Considering taurine, phosphatidylcholine, sunflower lecithin, TUDCA
• Liver/gallbladder flush
• Coffee enemas
• Binders during detox/mold protocols
• I’m wondering if low bile flow is allowing overgrowth to persist
Binders and detox
• Charcoal
• Zeolite type binders
• Modified citrus pectin
• Chlorella type thinking
• Coffee enemas
• Liver flush
• Mold detox style protocols
• Glutathione/NAC thinking
• My concern is that mold/mycotoxins could be keeping the immune system and gut inflamed
Constipation and bowel clearance
• Magnesium citrate/oxide
• Oxy powder style products
• Coffee enemas
• Colon cleansing style approaches
• Trying to keep things moving without over irritating myself
Nervous system / physical / structural work
• Osteopath work
• Vagus nerve approaches
• Nurosym trial
• Iqoro considerations
• Breathwork and nervous system work
• Considering pelvic floor physiotherapy
• Considering visceral manipulation / abdominal massage
• Wondering if diaphragm, pelvic floor, fascia or abdominal guarding is keeping gas trapped
• Stress and nervous system definitely seem to affect symptoms
Other angles I’m considering
• H. pylori recurrence or incomplete eradication
• Low stomach acid
• Poor pancreatic enzyme output
• Poor bile flow
• Gallbladder sludge or bile stagnation
• Mold exposure and mycotoxins
• MCAS/histamine intolerance
• Mineral imbalance / HTMA
• Copper/zinc imbalance
• Long Covid/post viral type immune dysfunction
• Laryngeal sensory neuropathy / reflux like symptoms
• Pelvic floor overactivity rather than weakness
• Biofilms
• Parasites, oxalates, sulfur issues, although I don’t know if those are central
My main question
What am I missing?
I’m starting to think SIBO might be the symptom, not the root cause. The things I’m most suspicious of now are:
• MMC/motility dysfunction
• Low bile flow
• Poor pancreatic enzymes
• H. pylori/low stomach acid
• Mold/mycotoxin driven inflammation
• Nervous system dysregulation
• Pelvic floor/diaphragm/gas trapping mechanics
• Histamine/MCAS
• Dysbiosis where the ecosystem just will not stabilise
If you had a case like this, what would you investigate next?
What actually fixed your bloating if antimicrobials, diet, probiotics and fasting were not enough?
Would you look more into prokinetics, bile support, enzymes, H. pylori testing, pelvic floor physio, mold treatment, FMT, or something else?
Please ask me anything that would help. I’m really trying to find the missing piece and would appreciate any thoughtful input, especially from people who had constant distension even when not eating.
I cant do this much longer, seriously, it's ruining my whole life.